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Contents 1 Why there is not a mention of fire brathing with a starch? 2 Perhaps a mention of Black Metal culture? 3 from cleanup re redirect from fire breather 4 How difficult is it?? 5 Alphabetical order 6 history 7 Professional training

[edit] Why there is not a mention of fire brathing with a starch?

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Ambrozd (talk) 14:12, 23 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Perhaps a mention of Black Metal culture?

I am aware that fire breathing/spitting was once a common attribute of the Scandinavian black metal scene. I have seen pictures of Quorthon from Bathory and Frost from Satyricon and 1349 performing this stunt as well as instances in the music video's for Immortal's "Call of the Wintermoon" and Satyricon's "Mother North".Vlad the Impaler 15:59, 23 April 2006 (UTC) (fixed)

That could be mentioned. If you wanted to do a little research a "Fire breathing in modern culture" section including black metal and other cultural items that are connected to fire breathing could be a good addition. Also, try to remember to sign your posts with four tildes (~~~~) so we know who posted it, and when. Thanks! Phidauex 22:22, 22 April 2006 (UTC)

I would like to include at least one or two pictures of Quorthon performing the trick, however I'm a bit overwhelmed with the wikipedia image uploading criteria. If anyone knows whether I would be able to include the following pictures, please tell me: [1][2]

[edit] from cleanup re redirect from fire breather

Shoot! I kind of wish it weren't a redirect, since, according to Shelby Foote, "fire breather" is a term in use in the US Civil War to refer to the secessionist politicians before the war. The term is also generally used for ranters, too. Don't know if these usages are worth an article, esp. since it would be historical dictdef, but it's worth thinking about. Geogre 01:57, 25 Jun 2004 (UTC)

[edit] How difficult is it??

I have done "fire breathing" quite some times, and I must say that the wikipedia article is a bit too dramatic. It does NOT take years to master any of those arts (perhaps months), and it is not that dangerous. Get real :P -- /Someone else

It IS very difficult. I teach fire dancing and dance as a proffesion. Fire Breathing is the most dangerous art I have performed. "Someone Else" may be refering to the ease of the basic trick, but to be safe and to advance beyond simple blasts is extremely difficult and dangerous. One should never consider fire breathing to be safe or easy. -User:who-is-me

While there are thousands of youthful frat boys who learned how to 'spit' fire on the back patio of a bar, that is definately different from the art of firebreathing. Creating a single pillar of a half second is not a particularly difficult skill, but turning that into an art and a show, and learning advanced acts definately takes time. I've been doing it and teaching it for years, and I still have a long way to go. Spend some time around people who've really mastered the art, and it makes the difference between the art of fire breathing and 'spitting fire' very obvious. Articles like this cannot understate the danger, even if some individuals are ignorant of or oblivious to its risks. Phidauex 22:26, 22 April 2006 (UTC)

Fire breathing is one of the easiest and fastest to learn (I learned in 1 hour) but it's the very most dangerous. Inhaling ultra pure lamp oil mist can cause a flu-like infection. If the wind's direction isn't constant there is a chance for the performer and the audience to be injured. There was recently a 6-year old in Turkey who died at this type of fire art performance. I'm not really sure we should even give this information out. If we do, we have to make clear the safety risks! ForestJay 14:30, 25 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Alphabetical order

The article states "Fire breathing stunts" [as the header, followed by] "These are arranged in alphabetical order. These acts should not be attempted without professional training."

Yes, they actually are sorted (why use arranged when the common usage is sorted?) in alphabetical order... but not in the common usage of the term "alphabetical order". They are sorted "backwards" (in descending order, while the almost worldwide use of "sorted alphabetically" means ascending order). Yes, it is still in alphabetical order, but... (sorry... just passing through... too tired to think of anything to correct these things). wjmt 02:30, 11 March 2006 (UTC)

Don't be afraid to be bold! You are welcome to make any changes to that list that you feel are necessary, either reversing the order, or changing the verbage. I'll look at it and perhaps make some adjustments, but don't let us stop you. Phidauex 22:27, 22 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] history

I think that it would be very interesting to have some information about the history of fire breathing. When did it first start? What flammable material was the first to be used?

Can anyone help? --D.Wardle 02:12, 28 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Professional training

"These acts should not be attempted without professional training." Why? Do you have a reference? "Should" doesn't seem encyclopedic at all: it's actually telling people what to do, without offering further explanation. I think the previous sections already make it clear what the consequences can be. I propose the removal of the sentence. A.Z. 05:52, 8 September 2007 (UTC)