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[edit] Iliad

I would like to say that I've found Pherae and Lycia in Homer's Iliad. I believe it is a reference, as Hector is also a hero in the Iliad. Coincidence I think not. Will someone add this because I'm too lazy and I'm new to this.--Darkfeline 23:20, 8 February 2007 (UTC)

Plenty of references to various mythologies, not just The Illiad, can be found in the Fire Emblem games. Hector is a common enough name. Unless you can find a) an official source that b) confirms the reference and c) explains its relevance to the game, instead of being put in "just because" (like many video games do, sadly) it should be left out, otherwise we have unencyclopedic lists like the recently deleted "List of references in the Fire Emblem series" article. SubStandardDeviation 06:29, 11 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Nintendo Seal

One note (although very minor...) in the photo of the game's box, the Nintendo Seal says "Official Nintendo Seal of Quality". I have this game, and if I remember correctly, the seal on it says only "Official Nintendo Seal", as far as I can tell from seeing other games, the shorter version was adopted by Nintendo sometime in mid-late 2003 in the US. Perhaps this was a prerelase box or the European box? (I see no other differences besides this minor detail.) Y0u 02:49, Mar 25, 2005 (UTC)

Probably prerelease. Definitely not Euro box. Euro box has Nintendo logo on left bottom corner, USK and PEGI logo on right bottom corner. Besides, in Europe, the Seal is round and says "Original Nintendo Seal of Quality" (and in Fire Emblem's case, is on the back of the box). --Wwwwolf 09:15, 30 May 2005 (UTC)
Having spent much more time here, I've seen many game boxes with RP ratings. It seems that using prerelease boxes is very common here, although this is probably not the best place to discuss this. Anyway, thank you. You 01:41, Jun 3, 2005 (UTC)

If people are just looking to add the chapter names, this list has a bunch which can be simply imported (being from a wiki also under the GPL).

[edit] List

A list to start, some description may be added later. Y0u 13:17, Dec 24, 2004 (UTC)

[edit] That Zany Erik

In regards to that trivia I just deleted, you can compare the maps yourself. Server is really slow, so they may take awhile to load.

http://www.fireemblem.net/fe/fe7/fe8--gonglue/pic/14.png http://www.fireemblem.net/fe/fe6/gonglue/map/04.png

[edit] Note

In a few days or so I would like to start adding pictures of the characters to the article. I hope to improve the quality of the article by doing this. If anyone wishes to contact me to ask questions or whatnot please feel free, Derktar 04:04, July 30, 2005 (UTC).

I will help copyedit and stuff. If you manage to do this too, i'll give you a barnstar!!--Zxcvbnm 02:28, 1 August 2005 (UTC)
In that case I will get right on it! It will take some time, but it should be done, before Wednesday of next week Derktar 05:28, August 1, 2005 (UTC).

[edit] Merge links

There are many merge links to this article, and the articles to be merged should be put on VFD. Lyndis has a large character description that should be merged to this page.--Zxcvbnm 02:40, 1 August 2005 (UTC)

I know nothing about Fire Emblem but looking at the size of this article, I firmly dissagree. Olleicua 20:47, 20 August 2005 (UTC)

I think that Lyndis page should not be merged since she is one of the main character and her page could be larger than other characters, I will try to get the complete biography and some pictures.

I'd prefer to separate this article instead of merging it with another one. A category Fire Emblem: Blazing Sword could be created and it would have one article for the game, another for its characters, etc. --ren 00:59, 20 October 2005 (UTC)

Just keep it the way it is. It's fine with me. However, if you're giving that big a page to Lyn, why not do the same thing with Eliwood and Hector? The other characters could get their own pages too...--Unknown Shadow

The portraits cannot all be used on the same page because of the limit of one screenshot per article according to copyright rules. In order to use the images of the characters' portraits, each character must have his or her own article. Furthermore, the Fire Emblem (Game Boy Advance) article is really long and might benefit from being split into separate articles. Jecowa 07:10, 31 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Classes section...

The information in the classes section really isnt encyclopedic, it reads like a GameFAQs guide. If no one objects in 48 hours, I intend to delete it.

Personally I think we should have a seperate article on the different classes seeing as they link to the wrong articles currently. Derktar 01:44, August 10, 2005 (UTC).
Hmmmmm, maybe so.--Zxcvbnm 02:21, 10 August 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Reed Portraits

The Reed brother portraits are under the wrong names ._. Someone might want to fix that. Might do it myself later if I get around to it.

Oops sorry about that, been awhile since I played and I mixed up the Reeds. Same problem with the other 5 characters listed without portraits, I forgot what they looked like and can't find out anywhere, going to have to replay the game I suppose. Derktar 22:41, August 10, 2005 (UTC).


[edit] Edits

I've helped clear up the article as of 08/26/05... I removed the support, classes and the chapter list section since they were not needed. The article claimed supports were exclusive to this FE, but if anybody had played other Fire Emblems, they would realise they aren't. So, I hope it's better now.

[edit] Lyn friends section

I think that the Friends section in Lyndis page should be removed, because in the page of Fire Emblem: Blazing Sword there is already info about those characters as well as pictures. At least delete all the mini-descriptions in Lyn's page.

As a matter of fact there is a merge notice where that info should be merged into this article.--Zxcvbnm 21:00, 23 September 2005 (UTC)


[edit] Fair use

There are a lot of copyrighted images in the article which are either under no fair use rationale or deeply flimsy ones. I suggest that y'all consider which are needed, as I plan to start deleting most of them. --Maru (talk) Contribs 02:55, 10 November 2005 (UTC)

They are video game screenshots which can be used under fair use. They are all over the web. If you delete them I will revert them back.--Zxcvbnm 03:19, 10 November 2005 (UTC)
What fair use? None of them have rationales. Even if they did, the use to which they are being put fails Fair Use criteria several ways. Go read Wikipedia:Fair use. --Maru (talk) Contribs 03:28, 10 November 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Sonia dies.

Sidequest not taken-

Nergal: This is strong quintessence, and
Nergal: yet you say you killed him?
Nergal: You are quite...
Nergal: ......
Sonia: Um...
Sonia: What is it, my lord?
Nergal: Your side...
Nergal: Are you injured?
Sonia: Oh, yes.
Sonia: When Brendan resisted,
Sonia: he...
Nergal: I see...
Nergal: He wounded you.
Sonia: Lord...
Sonia: Lord Nergal?
Nergal: I've no need for a
Nergal: defective puppet.
Sonia: Pardon?
Sonia: Pu-Puppet?
Nergal: Sonia, you're a
Nergal: failed work.
Nergal: You're no match for
Nergal: Limstella in any way.
Sonia: !!
Nergal: Disperse.

And then she flashes red and disappears or something, it's been ages since I saw it for obvious reasons.

Sidequest taken-

Sonia: ...I am...
Sonia: ...hu...ma......
Sonia: .........

She died.

She was dying when you left, Limstella showed up and she expected her to take her quintessence, Limstella left after telling her she was a morph, and she died. Saying she didn't die because you don't see her explicitly fade away or something is just as stupid as saying that the FF6 Memento Ring's description of 'Departed Mother's Love' means that the mother went away instead of dying.


And as for Athos...

Athos: Eliwood...
Athos: Hector, Lyn...
Athos: I've lived a long, long time,
Athos: but now...I'm done.
Athos: Do not grieve. Soon, I will be
Athos: with long-absent friends.
Athos: ...I have no regrets.

Athos: Let me give you a
Athos: parting gift...
Athos: As I lay dying...

Cutscene Text: Eliwood
Cutscene Text: Lord Athos... Even at the
Cutscene Text: end...he thought of us...


And all his ending says is that he died in a foreign land and those who saw him thought he had found peace or some such. Amazingly enough, he died in Valor, a foreign land. And.

Cutscene Text: Lyn
Cutscene Text: ...Look, both of you.
Cutscene Text: Lord Athos... It's almost
Cutscene Text: as though he's smiling.
  • Whuh? Whuh? All I saw was Sonia, wounded, but very alive, shouting to L********a (I dare not speak the name of EEEEEEEEBIIIIIILLL!!!!!!!) that she was human. (She's not, but who are we to ruin the fun? :)) And Athos? Oh, look, a tired old man exhausted afer a grueling battle. HE MUST BE DEAD!!!!!!! Ahem..not... All he seemed 100% sure of was that a.) Brammimond would outlive him, and b.) both would be gone in 20 years. EO
Shouting? She can barely talk! The entire scene-
Limstella: Sonia.
Sonia: ......Lea--
Sonia: Leave me...
Sonia: ...accursed puppet...
Sonia: Lord Nergal...
Sonia: ...Aah...help...me.
Limstella: Puppets have no
Limstella: essence to harvest.
Limstella: You no longer have
Limstella: any use to Lord Nergal...
Sonia: What!?
Sonia: ...What...did...
Sonia: What are you...
Sonia: I am human......
Limstella: ......
Sonia: Wait!
Sonia: ...Urrg!!
Sonia: ...I am...
Sonia: ...hu...ma......
Sonia: .........
Also, 'very much alive'...? First she gets attacked by Brendan and then your team defeats her directly afterwards. 'Dying' is a far more appropriate term, if you want to put a stupid optimistic spin on it then 'barely alive' is the best you can accurately do. Why do you think she trails off at the end of the scene anyway?
Your thoughts on Athos, meanwhile, aren't even worth answering. He says outright that he is dying several times. But of course since he's a 'tired old man' he must be suffering from some sort of mental illness that's making him think incorrectly! --Dark Twilkitri 07:22, 4 April 2006 (UTC)
  • What is this? Pick On Belgium Week? (Code Lyoko reference) Sonia... I am not denying she was very much injured, but I always pictured her trying to yell at Limstella during that scene. Maybe I'm just bats. Athos seems like the type to assume the worst so... unless the creator of the game phoes you and says "THEY DIED YOU FREAK" then go with my version. Cheers. EO
Comment: You are supposed to use Eliwood to kill the dragon. But since the game doesn't upgrade him until very late in the game, it's almost impossible. Thus, nearly everyone uses Athos to kill the dragon. The exertion from this great battle is the last straw for Athos. Unfortunately, Intelligent Systems didn't expect so many people to use Athos and so they inserted the "foreign land" blurb. SoaP 16:52, 23 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Add references...?

What exactly do they expect us to cite!? --Dark Twilkitri 03:56, 5 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Story section

It needs to be fixed, but not deleted. Game info also needs to be added outside of the story, as well as real-world info.--Zxcvbnm 12:16, 25 April 2006 (UTC)

Yes, I know. But I don't quite know how to fix it myself without spending an hour or so on it, so I just wiped it off. Sorry. It's better to have no section at all then a sloppy/unpolished one. Feel free to add it again if you must. --'Ivan 12:37, 25 April 2006 (UTC)
I agree that the story section needs a lot of work, as well as most of this article. I'll be going through some of the old stuff to salvage a more condensed story summary after I'm finished with the Sacred Stones page.Axem Titanium 02:46, 3 May 2006 (UTC)
This page is missing a story of any kind - that's not better than it having a poorly written one. When copyediting this, I had no idea what the name of the protagonist was, why he Lyndis found him unconscious, why he helped her in her quest, or what her quest even was. At least when the storyline is there, however poorly written, it can be edited by anyone without too much confusion. Without that section, none of the characters' stories make any sense. :) RandyWang 02:56, 3 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] I will clean up this article!

Please do not delete this article, I will (on my spare time), do a complete overhaul on the article! Fellow wikipidians, please don't worry if sections get deleted, I will replace the old text with wikified text.

[edit] Rebuild

I suggest you rebuild what 'Ivan deleted. As a result of the edit by 'Ivan, the article looks stublike, so I added the stub markers, Template:rpg-cvg-stub and Template:strategy-cvg-stub. There is some of the lost stuff I do not consider unencyclopedic. Decimus Tedius Regio Zanarukando 01:52, 7 May 2006 (UTC)

Christ, if it's that bothersome, just revert it. --'Ivan 12:40, 8 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] 1st off, Citations

For all statements that need to be cited, please put citations where needed and I will try to find good sources.~SamusFan80 (8:04pm MT, May 29, 2006)

[edit] Limstella's defeat

As I remember, the corruption of Limstella's body had nothing to do with her defeat; Nergal only said something like "I have given you power never before seen on this continent; however, your body will corrupt before tomorrow, as it cannot take the amount of energy. But that's how you wanted to die, isn't it? Serving your master? (Smiling evilly)" (Not a literal quote, but the essence of it.) If it had negatively affected Limstella's performance out in the field, Nergal wouldn't have done it; he isn't a fool. Her body corrupting IS NOT something that happens in the field, as far as I can tell; I'll remove "her body is so full of quintessence that it's corrupted, and she's finally defeated." unless there's a consensus that this isn't a misinterpetation of the game script or original research. Just seems weird to me. 71.198.181.226 16:40, 12 June 2006 (UTC)

Well, yeah, the corruption of her body is not the essence of her defeat (I remember taking 129 turns on that level and not once did she drop dead for no apparent reason). The point is that she's just a useless pawn to Nergal (as is everything else). SoaP 16:46, 23 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Other than Plot Info...

There is virtually no information on things like the overall concept of how the game works (the turned-based strategy, the weapons/magic triangle, the fact that if a character dies he/she is gone for the duration of the game, etc.). I think some of that stuff needs to be added, but before I do so I want to check with people to make sure that's okay so I don't do it without reason and have it deleted quickly. Forgive me if this info is already found in a different article like the Fire Emblem series or if it somehow doesn't belong here. Jjam189 16:15, 6 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] move to "Fire Emblem: Blazing Sword"

I belive that bracketed titles should only be used when no other title (exculding varations of spaceing or similer varyation styles) are useablethis is not the case for this artical, So is there anyone that agrees with this? Deuxhero

...you mean parenthetical titles? Also, please sign your comments by adding four tildes (~) to the end of your message. Anyway, as much as I would like that, I'm afraid that it would cause too much confusion to casual players searching for this game to be confused when they redirect to a page with "Blazing Sword" in the title. Axem Titanium 02:35, 27 July 2006 (UTC)

You would need to be blind to miss the english box art there Deuxhero 22:57, 27 July 2006 (UTC)

Meh. I would prefer if you maintained proper capitalization if you do move it (e.g. Fire Emblem: Blazing Sword rather than Fire emblem: Blazing Sword). Axem Titanium 15:12, 28 July 2006 (UTC)
    • thats a mistake on my part Deuxhero 16:39, 28 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] A Mess!

It says nothing about the actual combat system or anything besides the storyline. SoaP 16:43, 23 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Armads

Armads, as it stands, is not worthy of being a stand-alone enclyclopedia article. Either merge it back into the main article, expand it, or delete it. Sanguinity 18:04, 6 September 2006 (UTC)

I apologise for the lack of content. I don't think that it needs merging just yet...I'm not finished making it. I had to leave unexpectedly in the middle of writing it...sorry. SoaP 19:49, 6 September 2006 (UTC)
Armads is not capable of being a stand-alone encyclopedia article. Any non-game guide information it contains would easily fit into the story section of the main article. Axem Titanium 20:01, 6 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Overlong story section.

The description of the game's narrative is entirely too long and needs to be trimmed down. At its longest, it should only be two paragraphs that cover the most important aspects of the plot. Also, more emphasis needs to be given to the game's play mechanics. A good example of what I'm talking about is in the Fire Emblem: Path of Radiance article, although I believe that that particular article needs to have its character section drastically reduced. --Hailinel 02:06, 17 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Fair use rationale for Image:GBA Fire Emblem Box.jpg

Image:GBA Fire Emblem Box.jpg is being used on this article. I notice the image page specifies that the image is being used under fair use but there is no explanation or rationale as to why its use in Wikipedia articles constitutes fair use. In addition to the boilerplate fair use template, you must also write out on the image description page a specific explanation or rationale for why using this image in each article is consistent with fair use.

Please go to the image description page and edit it to include a fair use rationale. Using one of the templates at Wikipedia:Fair use rationale guideline is an easy way to insure that your image is in compliance with Wikipedia policy, but remember that you must complete the template. Do not simply insert a blank template on an image page.

If there is other other fair use media, consider checking that you have specified the fair use rationale on the other images used on this page. Note that any fair use images uploaded after 4 May, 2006, and lacking such an explanation will be deleted one week after they have been uploaded, as described on criteria for speedy deletion. If you have any questions please ask them at the Media copyright questions page. Thank you.BetacommandBot 11:01, 4 June 2007 (UTC)

Rationale added. Axem Titanium 18:36, 4 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Article name

I think the name of this article should rather be "Fire Emblem (video game)" as there are no other Fire Emblem named games. Anyone agree? --Mika1h 22:10, 18 July 2007 (UTC)

I think this is a bit ambiguous. Even though it does distinguish from the series, the series still features the video games. This title suggests that there is an other Fire Emblem article that is totally different and does not feature videogames. Ashnard Talk Contribs 06:34, 19 July 2007 (UTC)
I think it more implies that there is another "Fire Emblem" named game on another platform. See for example: Ridge Racer (arcade game)/Ridge Racer (PSP) or Ninja Gaiden (arcade game)/Ninja Gaiden (Xbox). --Mika1h 21:29, 20 July 2007 (UTC)
The example that you've given is what the current tile has, the name with its platform. Ashnard Talk Contribs 21:38, 20 July 2007 (UTC)
No, the guideline in VG Project has been that if there is only one game with that name it's given "(video game)" or "(arcade game)" moniker. So, in this case when there are no other "Fire Emblem" named games but there is already an article named "Fire Emblem", this article's name should be "Fire Emblem (video game)". If there should be another game named only "Fire Emblem" (for example on Wii), it would be named "Fire Emblem (Wii)". --Mika1h 22:27, 20 July 2007 (UTC)
Please will you link me to that guideline? Sorry about the earlier comment; I made a mistake. I was tired and over-read the first links and just saw the platform links. Ashnard Talk Contribs 22:37, 20 July 2007 (UTC)
I didn't find any written guideline, but this is the first article I've noticed to be named like this. --Mika1h 22:51, 20 July 2007 (UTC)
Sorry, then the only rationale for moving this would be that it looks strange to you. I just don't think a move is totally necessary. Thanks. Ashnard Talk Contribs 23:01, 20 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] GA push — clean up.

Okay, I helped get Fire Emblem to GA. I believe this article can get to GA with the right contributions. It needs:

  • Good, reliable sources (and lots of them)
  • Fair use rationales on all images
  • All of it wriiten in out-of-universe style with alll the jargon explained.
  • More casual-friendly — not written for th fans of the game
  • The minutiae cut out.

Hopefully, it shouldn't be too hard. I'd appreciate it if there were multiple-user contributions. Thank you. Ashnard Talk Contribs 17:39, 19 July 2007 (UTC)

Would that also involve reducing the length story? It does seem a little overlong compared to others that I have seen. Aveyn Knight 13:13, 20 July 2007 (UTC)
Most certainly, yes. Ashnard Talk Contribs 13:53, 20 July 2007 (UTC)
Right, I've reformed the plot section — hopefully for the better. It's now more of an overview and is shorter — as opposed to the previous point-by-point style. Ashnard Talk Contribs 14:26, 22 July 2007 (UTC)
I've just nominated this for GA now. Ashnard Talk Contribs 18:55, 23 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] GA review comments

I've had a look over the article and have the following comments which ought to be implemented before I'll pass the article as a GA.

  • Why isn't the article called "Fire Emblem: Sword of Fire"? The main Fire Emblem article translates this as "Blazing Sword" as well. Perhaps stick with "Fire Emblem: Rekka no Ken" to be certain?
  • The fair use images need to specify the article for which fair use applies specifically and also, according to the fair use template there, need to specify the source and any licence information for the images.
  • Ensure placement of citations complies with WP:CITE, e.g. ref [1] needs to be moved other side of the full stop, ref [6] needs the space between it and the full stop to be removed.
  • Gameplay section needs some introduction.
  • Perhaps I'm going against some Wikiproject guidelines but to me, it makes more sense to read the Plot before then understanding how the Gameplay relates to it?
  • Avoid one sentence paragraphs such as "More cutscenes and a chance to save follow the conclusion of the battle."
  • The game is referred to as Fire Emblem throughout while the series is also Fire Emblem. This is confusing - is the game is called "Fire Emblem: Rekka no Ken", call it that.
  • Disambiguate Bow.
  • "This mechanism will alter the statistical difference." - what does this mean?
  • Flow first two sentences of Units section to improve the prose.
  • Avoid "isn't" - use "is not".
  • "(E-A and then S)" - what does this mean?
  • What exactly is the "special item"?
  • "(measured A, B and C)" - explain this please.
  • "The player adopts the perspective of a tactician who found by a girl named Lyndis in Sacae." - grammar?
  • Lead says 16th, Media Reception section says 17th, are they different polls? Confusing.

So, with all this in mind I'll put the GA on hold because I can see that there are some editors keen to push the GA through. Good luck. The Rambling Man 15:53, 24 July 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for that — that was really helpful.Right, I've modified everything except the first two:
  • Shall I move it to Rekka no Ken — the Japanese name? Or should it be Blazing Sword, which is a rough translation.
  • I'm not the original uploader of the images — I don't know the sources. I'm also unsure of the other stuff you mentioned regarding image. How should I tackle this?

These are the only two thing, I think. Ashnard Talk Contribs 17:20, 24 July 2007 (UTC)

The name is indeed troublesome. The games before this use the Japanese titles, while the games after use the English titles. Naturally this game would use the English title, but it doesn't have one. Using the Japanese title would be the next best idea, but that could get confusing/problematic. I don't think using Blazing Sword is a good idea, as that could get more confusing and its not even an official translation. I suppose I would "vote" for Rekka no Ken. Aveyn Knight 18:56, 24 July 2007 (UTC)
The name is a problem but I think it's the best possible for now (until Nintendo decides to give it a proper translation). I recall the official website referred to it as "Blazing Sword" at one point but Nintendo seems to have taken that site down unfortunately. Any translation we attempt would be WP:OR and using the Japanese name would go against WP:NC since most English-speakers know it as simply "Fire Emblem". I think the current name should stay for now. Axem Titanium 19:10, 24 July 2007 (UTC)
Also, WP:VG guidelines say somewhere that gameplay goes before plot and that's how it goes on practically every video game article. Axem Titanium 19:13, 24 July 2007 (UTC)
Troublesome indeed. We'll have to wait to see what the admin says. All options are far from perfect yet, the current is only pragmatic whilst the others concern official process or whatever. As for the plot thing — I'm lost. Reviewer suggests move, guideline doesn't; I don't think it's that much of an issue though. This only leaves the images — any ideas? As you can tell, I'm not an expert on the image business. Ashnard Talk Contribs 20:07, 24 July 2007 (UTC)
Images... the box art is necessary. I'd prefer a different image to depict the characters. I think I have a really good one but I need to find and scan it. I'll do that later tonight if possible. For gameplay, I think one that includes the battle details (the screen right before a battle) would be more helpful. I like to point to Final Fantasy VIII as an excellent video game article to imitate. Axem Titanium 20:19, 24 July 2007 (UTC)
Anything that won't take too long. Thanks. Ashnard Talk Contribs 20:37, 24 July 2007 (UTC)
I'm not part of the WP:VG so that's why I caveated my comment. To an outsider, I would think the plot is more relevant than the gameplay, especially when you end up talking about the characters characteristics and so on before their context is introduced. Maybe I need to take this up at WP:VG but as an outsider to that project perhaps I'm coming in cold. Any ideas? The Rambling Man 21:53, 24 July 2007 (UTC)
I've added a comment at WP:VG thus so I'll be more than interested to see what transpires. Either way I'm not trying to rewrite the WP:VG manual of style but, just perhaps, it's a case of not seeing the wood for the trees. As a relative outsider I think the MoS could be improved to appeal to all. The Rambling Man 22:29, 24 July 2007 (UTC)
And as for the name, I still don't believe it's acceptable, it's not consistent with other Fire Emblem articles for a start, and there are two "Fire Emblem"'s available for Game Boy Advance so it's ambiguous. It definitely needs attention. The Rambling Man 22:32, 24 July 2007 (UTC)
I don't think it's acceptable either. So really, for the name, what do you recommend? I don't which would be the most acceptable for Wikipeida. Ashnard Talk Contribs 09:01, 25 July 2007 (UTC)
Should I bring it up at WP:VG? They should know. Ashnard Talk Contribs 09:10, 25 July 2007 (UTC)
Okay, I've raised it at WP:VG. Ashnard Talk Contribs 09:33, 25 July 2007 (UTC)
BTW, I've uploaded the image I was talking about. Enjoy! Axem Titanium 02:14, 26 July 2007 (UTC)
Nice image. Thanks. Ashnard Talk Contribs 08:37, 26 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Requested move

The official English title of this game is Fire Emblem. There is no other English property named Fire Emblem. Previous games were not released in English, and titles were released under the Faiā Emuburemu name. ~ JohnnyMrNinja 10:23, 25 July 2007 (UTC)

Withdrawn ~ JohnnyMrNinja 11:47, 25 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] GA review revisited

Okay, now the concern over the name has been resolved and I've added what I consider to be required for each of the fair use images, I'll re-review the article as soon as possible and hopefully we'll get a pass, or at least a lot closer to one! The Rambling Man 12:59, 25 July 2007 (UTC)

Okay, I'm satisfied now that this has all the criteria to be a good article. As such I'll promote it. The Rambling Man 16:49, 25 July 2007 (UTC)
I just like to say thank you to all the contributors and the users that offered help during the "title issue". Thanks. Ashnard Talk Contribs 16:56, 25 July 2007 (UTC)
And, naturally, the awesome reviewer?! The Rambling Man 16:56, 25 July 2007 (UTC)
Of course, as I stated on your talk page. I included you in the "users that offered help during the "title issue". If you hadn't raised it, we'd still have Fire Emblem (Game Boy Advance). Ashnard Talk Contribs 17:00, 25 July 2007 (UTC)
Only joking, it was a pleasure to help out. The Rambling Man 17:03, 25 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Requested move

It was requested that this article be renamed but there was no consensus for it to be moved.

The following discussion is an archived discussion of the proposal. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the proposal was - clearly no move. Keith D (talk) 23:25, 1 March 2008 (UTC)

Because this is not the first game in the series, I suggested the move to its original full name. The existing page (and its English alternate) both currently redirect here. Whether people would expect to find the original game, the North American release (i.e. this game), or perhaps a series page is the aim of this discussion. As an example, refer to the use of the name Final Fantasy II in Japan and North America. — Nahum Reduta [talk|contribs] 08:34, 25 February 2008 (UTC)

Oppose, every territory outside of Japan got this game as Fire Emblem. Since this is the most common (and ONLY official) Enlgish name, it should stay here. TJ Spyke 12:01, 25 February 2008 (UTC)
Oppose: There have been various discussions about this. Basically, per Wikipedia: Naming Convention, the English title should be used as opposed to a foreign counterpart. Blazing Sword has no official merit; it's only a translation. Ashnard Talk Contribs 17:31, 25 February 2008 (UTC)
Oppose WP:VG/NAME recommends to "always use the original official title of the game, and prefer English titles over foreign ones". Fire Emblem is the official English title. --Mika1h (talk) 21:29, 25 February 2008 (UTC)
Oppose; there is little evidence that "Blazing Sword" is in any way official. Until an official subtitle is released, the hatnotes at the top of the page are sufficient. Axem Titanium (talk) 22:58, 25 February 2008 (UTC)
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