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[edit] Germanic Parallels

Fir Bolg (Celtic) = Wer Folk (German, recall Grimm's Laws P/B -> F) = Men Folk. That is, everyone agrees that Fir (Celtic) = Vir (Latin) = Wer (German) = Man (cf. werewolf, man-wolf). All I am offering is a suggestion for the second word, Bolg, which by Grimm's Laws becomes Folg/Folk = people, folk. Fir Bolg = Men Folk, an obvious name for the original folkish inhabitants.

Actually, Grimm's Law would turn *bolg to *polk. If "folk" underwent Grimm's law, the older form must have had *p-l-g. The American Heritage dictionary derives it from PIE *plh1gom, which could hardly yield anything like "bolg" in Celtic. Orcoteuthis 13:03, 3 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] New section

Added the "Contemporary Influences" section for the reference to the game, World of Warcraft. Glacierman 05:41, 28 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Succession Box

Would the succession box not be better at the bottom of the page, instead of half way? Other articles on 'Wiki' have the boxes at the bottom, keeps it more uniform. Culnacréann Ireland 23:25, 28 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Spam removed

Deleted a spam message from the discussion page. Orcoteuthis 14:41, 6 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Abbr

Tuatha Dé Danann cannot be shortened to Tuatha Dé. It means the People/Tribe of Dan, so shortening it to Tuatha Dé, means people of. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.70.163.71 (talk) 00:24, 19 December 2007 (UTC)

You are wrong on every point you make. The phrase "Tuatha Dé" is used regularly in Irish texts, because Dé doesn't mean "of", it's the genitive of Día, god or goddess. It's used as a shorted form of Tuatha Dé Danann, and it's also used of the Israelites in early Irish Christian texts - the "Tribes of God". But since you claim that the Tuatha Dé were the Tribe of Dan, you clearly know nothing of either. --Nicknack009 (talk) 20:30, 19 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Appalling "evidence"

"Fir Domnann are probably related to the British, Dumnonii"

Probably?! On what grounds?! I suppose, the Fir Bolg come from Bulgaria then? Austrians descended from ancient Australians and Romany gypsies come from Egypt and Rome, and Osaka was built by the ancient Scythians?!

Come on, get this claptrap off! This is just inarticulate uneducated unacademic flights of fancy. Just because names look and sound the same it doesn't mean they are linked: e.g. Iberia in Georgia and Iberia of Portugal and Spain; Chantaburi in Thailand and Canterbury in England; Iran and Arran island.

sort it out gav'na! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.113.11.212 (talk) 20:42, 15 February 2008 (UTC)