Talk:Finger vibrato

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There are three main types; arm vibrato, produced by moving the entire arm, wrist vibrato, in which the wrist moves to and fro instead of the arm, and of course, finger vibrato, in which the finger stopping the sounding string(s) moves up and down. That is, as the finger approaches the fingerboard, as soon as the note has first sounded, the finger move away ever so slightly, and then moves back to the fingerboard, and this proscess repeats for as long as the player wishes.

This is inaccurate on several grounds. Firstly, you can't have it both ways... either arm vibrato and wrist vibrato are types of finger vibrato (as I believe) or they are not. Describing the third type as true finger vibrato might solve this I guess. But it's not really a matter of types at all... there's a continuum from finger-only movement through wrist movement to whole arm movement, with no clear dividing line between these three techniques, and actual playing often combining two or more of them.

Secondly, the finger doesn't approach or move away from the fingerboard. It moves but remains in contact with the string, which is itself in contact with the fingerboard (or with a fret on a fretted instrument).

No. This isn't an accurate description of finger vibrato. I use finger vibrato regularly on both fretted and unfretted instruments, and I think this description was written by someone who has seen the technique but doesn't understand how it is done. Andrewa 06:39, 6 June 2006 (UTC)

I think the guitar vibrato definition needs expanding somewhat, I think to say something like the is more accurate. "Vibrato on the guitar is created by tones rapidly alternating between the tonic and a quarter tone for the duration of a note (keep this open that way the reader will learn vibrato can last a crotchet, sambrieve, quaver etc.). Vibrato can be created by rapidly bending(link to bending article) the string alternately between the tonic and the quartertone,alternatively vibrato is created by moving the finger from side to side quickly thus alternating between the tonic and the quarter note, this technique is used with slide guitar." do excuse the word 'tonic' being overused there's another word but it won't come to mind, please comment on whether something like this can be used instead and point out any ammendments. --Mikeoman 01:38, 22 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Axial and radial vibrato

I don't know if there are correct terms for axial and radial vibrato, but I know both techniques exist, and I didn't see any other easy way to distinguish between them, so I put those terms in. If someone else knows correct terms, feel free to fix this.

-- TimNelson 08:59, 20 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Rename?

At least for guitar, vibrato and string bending are all subsets of the technique what one might call "left-handed pitch shifting". I'd suggest a rename to the more general definition, but only if there's a good name for it. Would "Head-hand pitch-shifting" be an appropriate name, as it refers to the hand closer to the head? -- TimNelson 10:47, 22 February 2007 (UTC)

I note that no other pages link to this page. If you think about what other pages should link here, and why, that may well give you useful ideas for how this page should be named. CaughtLBW 11:01, 22 February 2007 (UTC)
No other pages link where? There are plenty of other pages linking to Finger vibrato. No-one's linking to the talk page, sure, but to the main page they are.
-- TimNelson 05:56, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

Nobody calls string bending "radial pitch-shifting", and it's not a variant of finger vibrato, so it's not useful to merge the articles or look for an artificial term like "head-hand pitch-shifting" (there's no such thing as a "head hand", too). We should unmerge the articles. Bending is for reaching a note, vibrato for adding an effect to it.Herringgull2 06:58, 27 April 2007 (UTC)

You can add my voice to your cause- Vibrato is the radical moving of different pitches whereas with a bend is slower and doesn't always return have to the tonic, please unmerge them, it's misleading--Mikeoman 23:12, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Move proposal

  • Move to Tone bending. This technique can be done on non-string instruments such as synthesizers with pitch bend levers or wheels. Badagnani (talk) 22:09, 24 November 2007 (UTC)