Talk:Finding Nemo
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[edit] Whale
The rather prominent whale should be added to the list of species, though I forget what type of whale it is.. 33° 23:38, 24 Feb 2004 (UTC)
- Looks like a Blue whale. The only difference I can see is that the blue whale doesn't appear to have the white underside like the one in the movie, nor as wide a jaw - Fizscy46 01:56, 25 Feb 2004 (UTC)
- Could be a Fin whale then: that last external link from Blue whale leads to an article implying that the two can possibly interbreed, noting that one of the most obvious differences is that the Fin whale has a pale underside. HTH --Phil | Talk 08:54, May 5, 2004 (UTC)
I always thought it looked more like a humpback to me... --Sparky the Seventh Chaos 00:16, Jul 11, 2004 (UTC)
I think it's a blue whale.61.230.88.35 14:27, 13 June 2006 (UTC)
[edit] What does "Mount Wannahockaloogie" refer to?
The article states that Mount Wannahockaloogie ("wanna hawk a loogie") is a subtle gag. Too subtle for me: what's it refer to? --Phil | Talk 14:06, Jul 27, 2004 (UTC)
- 'Hocking a loogie' is slang for 'coughing up phlegm.' I don't know if this would be spelled 'hocking' or 'hawking;' it's a varient on 'hacking.' I think. The words are onamotepias for the noice someone makes when coughing up pleghm. --Sparky the Seventh Chaos 18:39, Jul 28, 2004 (UTC)
It wasn't so much "what does this mean?" but "where does this phrase come from?" that I was after: the article implies that this is some kind of reference to popular culture which obviously hasn't made it to sunny Buckinghamshire :-) --Phil | Talk 08:56, Jul 29, 2004 (UTC)
- It makes a little fun of places with long native names - the infamous US example is Mississippi, which is hard to spell and pronounce right, yet is right in the middle of the country so can't be ignored. "Wannahockaloogie" sounds like a native Hawaiian name (that's what I thought when I first heard it) until you realize they just twisted the slang phrase a bit. Good thing we have an encyclopedia in which to explain all this, eh? :-) Stan 13:46, 29 Jul 2004 (UTC)
- More likely a New Zealand name parody than a Hawaiian name parody. Anyway, what's so hard about "Mississippi"? :) Darcyj 23:37, 19 February 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Nitpicking
- Mr. Ray sings a song "The Zones of the Open Sea" (about the different biological regions of the ocean), which is a parody of Tom Lehrer's periodic table song.
Changed parody to pastiche, as I feel it's not really a parody if the oringial was as well.--217.155.42.246 07:52, 24 Sep 2004 (UTC)
- I agree with this change --Will2k 20:49, Sep 24, 2004 (UTC)
- Mr. Ray is not a manta ray, and given his coloration is most likely a "white spotted eagle ray" (http://www.getinvolved.qld.gov.au/emblem/ss_eagleray.html) -- 131.236.1.5 21:33, 6 Feb 2005
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- Based on pix and descriptions of the manta ray, I agree Mr. Ray isn't one. But it's less clear which ray he is. The picture and description at Eagle ray do suggest a "spotted eagle ray", as suggested, so I've made the change. I'm troubled, however, at the specific absence in any pictures I've seen of the unexplained bulbous growth in the middle of Mr. Ray's tail (if it's a stinger, like a stingray, it's certainly not where I'd expect it — at the end), and by the vague mention of tropical water habitation without a specific mention of Australian seas. Anyone have better info? — Jeff Q 08:40, 7 Feb 2005 (UTC)
[edit] Bloat's species
Bloat is listed as being a pufferfish, but his spines make him look more like a porcupinefish. Anybody agree?
Ummm...Porcupine fish are a kind of pufferfish.61.230.88.35 14:27, 13 June 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Dark Side of Nemo?
In the cultural references section, it says that Finding Nemo and Darkside of the Moon can be synchronized. Does anybody know at what point the two need to be synchronized or some parts that show a correlation between the two?
- Thanks for calling attention to this unsubstantiated rumor. I've removed that statement until someone can provide a credible reference for this urban legend. ~ Jeff Q (talk) 07:57, 14 July 2005 (UTC)
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- There should be an article on Dark Side of the Moon urban legends. The Wizard of Oz is another movie alleged to synchronise with the album, IIRC. Darcyj 23:40, 19 February 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Animated shorts
What animated short(s) aired with this movie at any time? This includes in theters or on DVD/VHS. --Wack'd About Wiki 17:00, 12 August 2005 (UTC)
- Pixar's 1989 short "Knick Knack" was shown before the main feature in theaters. It was also included on the Finding Nemo DVD release. ~ Jeff Q (talk) 13:39, 22 September 2005 (UTC)
It should be noted that the version of "Knick Knack" that was released with Finding Nemo was edited from the original version. The orginal version of Knick Knack featured "female" characters with an EXTREMELY large bosom. The edited version was more politically correct featuring "female" characters with almost no bosom at all and a more conservative tube top.
[edit] Globalisation
Why on earth did they have to show Sydney Harbour populated by brown pelicans (escaped from Taronga Zoo?) - would it really have been too hard to get a photo of our own gorgeous big black and white pellies? Also, couldn't Pixar be bothered finding out the difference between North American lobsters, which have huge claws, and Australiasian ones?Lizby 10:45, 22 September 2005 (UTC)
- The lobsters are specifically intended to be New England lobsters, thus their accent and use of the term 'wicked daahk' to describe just how dark it was when Marlin fought the big scary fish. 24.62.27.66 21:40, 26 February 2006 (UTC)
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- yep, the eastern Australian seaboard is known for its NE lobsters...?!!Bel Bel 14:39, 4 March 2006 (UTC)
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- There are three ways to look at this. The first way is that the lobsters were, in fact, off of the coast of Boston in New England. Thus, we see that the story of Marlin's courage has spread across the entire ocean! The second is that the lobsters are a specific reference to Massachusetts snuck in there by one of the creators, who was from Rockport, MA. Similar references can be seen in the dentist's office where he has lighthouse lamps modeled after the twin lighthouses off of Thatcher Island and a framed copy of Motif Number One. The last way is that it's a friggin' cartoon and stop with the bitching already. 24.62.27.66 05:20, 5 March 2006 (UTC)
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The "big scary fish" is an anglerfish.61.230.88.35 14:27, 13 June 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Monty Python Reference
I think it is highly unlikely that 'Bruce' is a reference to the Monty Python sketch that is mentioned. The voice actor Barry Humphries is a reknowned Australian whereas the trivia implies that the accent is put on. Bruce is a common Australian name, so much so that Austalians use it as slang for a man (with Sheila as the female counterpart) - this is more likely the reason why it is used in the film as well as the Monty Python sketch. -- 85.250.13.101 11:06, 30 September 2005 (UTC)
- I believe the use of the character name Bruce in the movie is a reference to the movie "Jaws". The mechanical shark used in the filming of "Jaws" was nicknamed Bruce. -- 68.42.19.85 00:21, 11 October 2005 (UTC)
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- The source of the name "Bruce" clearly isn't obvious, so it should be sourced. Otherwise, it's just speculation, which is considered original research, which Wikipedia tries to avoid.
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- If it ain't obvious, leave it out. At the moment we have two explanations, which seem both highly doubtable! Same goes for the Fabio reference. Are these trivia copied from IMDB? That would explain a lot since trivia there occaionally contradict themselves within two phrases...--perelly 23:13, 17 April 2006 (UTC)
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[edit] Finding Nemo
Hi Everyone. What happens after Marlin and Dorey go to the FEA?
What FEA? Do you mean EAC? They get swallowed by a whale (intentionally to carry them to Sydney harbour), which blows them out of it's blowhole. Then Nigel the brown pelican takes them to the dentists's office but they think Nemo is dead because he is playing dead to fool Darla. Then they return to the ocean, dissapointed. But Nemo with the help of Gill gets into the sink and into the ocean. He meets Dory and Marlin later but Dory and some groupers get caught in a net. Nemo helps them escape, and everyone returns to the reef. The end.61.230.88.35 14:27, 13 June 2006 (UTC)
I think he means that anti-fish shark thing.
- And what does FEA stand for? Go to [fea.org], and I strongly agree that this has absolutely NOTHING to do with Finding Nemo! And what, may I ask, is an "anti-fish shark THING"? Have fun with your headache. A•N•N•Afoxlover PLEASE SIGN HERE, ANYONE! 23:05, 18 February 2007 (UTC)
The above is classified as idiotic and pointless. You have never in your life watched Finding Nemo if you don't kmow the "Fish are firends, not food" meeting those sharks held.
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- He said "anti-fish", which means they would be eating Dory and Marlin, which Bruce, Chum, and Anchor didn't. Obviously, YOU have never watched it in YOUR life and understood it all. A•N•N•Afoxlover PLEASE SIGN, ANYONE!!! 14:01, 9 March 2007 (UTC)
FEA = "Fish Eaters Anonymous" (JosephASpadaro 23:54, 2 June 2007 (UTC))
[edit] Nemo In Captivity
Here is what we need in this article about what was going on. During Nemo's captivity, Darla, a mean teenage girl, goes to the aquarium to take Nemo as she is being told as she is one of the ocean-fish killers. Nemo was afraid of her, and as she could not keep him at all, during the fight, the plastic bag flew from her hands and landed in the sink and popped and water spilled all out and when Darla got to the sink, she was about to cry and the water shot into her face, and then Nemo returned into the ocean to escape from Sydney. --Zachkudrna18@yahoo.com
teenage?71.99.110.7 22:02, 4 September 2006 (UTC)
I agree with the above. Darla was NOT a teenager, but an 8-year-old girl. Nemo was P. Sherman's present to her (he was her uncle).—Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.38.214.49 (talk • contribs)
- I think the paragraph is just a stupid version of what really happened, like in Uncyclopedia. A•N•N•Afoxlover PLEASE SIGN HERE, ANYONE! 23:07, 18 February 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Over-Protective Parenting
In the section on "Wider Effects of the film" I am quite surprised there are no references to overprotectiveness - it seems that every discussion I have heard relating to overprotective parenting has included a reference to the movie as the overprotectiveness of Marlin led to Nemo's capture in the first place. Only problem is, I can't make a "fair and balanced" report based solely on anecdotal evidence... Thomasdelbert 23:57, 31 January 2006 (UTC)
[edit] What are the seagulls saying?
Is it "mine", or are they saying "mate" in an Australian accent ("Mite? Mite?")? Haven't seen the film since it came out in the cinema, but I've had this conversation with many many people since, and I can't get a definitive answer - it's split about 50/50. I thought it was "mate" personally... Cardinal Wurzel 16:06, 7 April 2006 (UTC)
Well, I actually emailed Pixar, and got an immediate reply! "Thank you for writing Pixar Animation Studios. The seagulls are saying "Mine." Best, Pixar Publicity Team." I'd say that was fairly definitive. that's me told. Cardinal Wurzel 18:04, 10 April 2006 (UTC)
- The commentary supports this. One of the creators says that he grew up in New England and grew to hate seagulls as greedy little winged rats. So in his mind it made perfect sense that in a world where most animals can talk, the only thing a seagull could say would be 'MINE!'. 204.69.40.7 14:00, 18 April 2006 (UTC)
Mine.61.230.88.35 14:27, 13 June 2006 (UTC)
Actually, the seagulls are shown to be saying "Mine", but they are actually saying "Mate" in a very strong Australian accent. But Americans at Pixar liked how they sounded like "Mine". Got it?—Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.38.214.49 (talk • contribs)
Okay, step it down a peg. Is "mate" cited? Did it in any way sound like mate? It's a farfetched idea. I understood they where saying mine the instant I heard it. Why would they say mate and then try to eat something?
[edit] P. Sherman
While I was still in high school, a (Filipino) friend of one of my counselors came in during some cultural assembly. I don't remember his name, but he worked for Pixar during the production of Finding Nemo. One tidbit he told us during his speech went something like:
You remember P. Sherman, 42 Wallaby Way, Sydney? We named him that because, well, he's a P. Sherman! ("fisherman" under a Tagalog accent)
I'd like to add this to the Trivia section, but I'm not sure of how to add it in an acceptably encyclopedic fashion.
- I can say that I was also at that assembly (or one strikingly similar to it), so I can confirm that the evolution of the name of P. Sherman as described in the Trivia section is accurate. However, I do not know of a way to "verify" this description in a fashion acceptable for Wikipedia. Flip619 10:52, 18 January 2007 (UTC)
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- I am a Filipino (born in the US) and even I didn't pick that up until I read this. Good one! JudgeSpear 03:07, 30 June 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Nitpick - a whale's mouth and lungs are not connected
While looking for Nemo, Marlin and Dory are taken in the mouth of a baleen whale, who then expels them through it's blowhole, (nostrils). A whale's mouth and lungs are not connected, otherwise, the whale might drown trying to eat. 204.80.61.10 18:20, 13 April 2006 (UTC)Bennett Turk
You've got that right.61.230.88.35 14:27, 13 June 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Nitpick - fish can't talk
While looking for Nemo, Marlin and Dory speak to one another and to several other undersea creatures numerous times. Neither fish nor lobsters or crabs have the necessary organs required for speaking, nor do they have the capacity to understand the spoken word. 204.69.40.7 14:03, 18 April 2006 (UTC)
- Well, Captain Obvious saves the day.-Rex Imperator
- That user might be onto something. It's possible that the film Finding Nemo is not a documentary after all. Wahkeenah 02:33, 18 February 2007 (UTC)
I always thought it was just a story.--Crustaceanguy 21:27, 20 February 2007 (UTC)
We're using sarcasm-Rex Imperator
Get off your horse rex, he probably was too.
[edit] reef?
Since when is Nemo's dad's home on Sydney harbor? Willshepherdson 01:51, 27 April 2006 (UTC)
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- The article now says that Marlin lives in the Great Barrier Reef, Australia. --Starionwolf 22:53, 12 June 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Minor editing of dates
For your information: I correct the dates that are wikilinked to conform to the manual of style: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Manual_of_Style_(dates_and_numbers)#Date_formatting
I appologize for any inconvinience I may cause. --Starionwolf 05:46, 29 April 2006 (UTC)
- I finished editing the wikilinks fo the dates. --Starionwolf 17:37, 29 April 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Double posted references
I have removed instances of the same bit of trivia that is repeated twice. ie Monty Python; Buzz Lightyear.--The Manator E 04:29, 6 June 2006 (UTC)
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- Thanks. I didn't see the repeated trivia. --Starionwolf 22:53, 12 June 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Night vision?
Disney issued night vision goggles to prevent pirating of Finding Nemo[1], shouldn't this be included? --69.204.179.124 19:33, 20 June 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Trivia Quote
- "Hop inside my mouth, if you want to live" is a reference to The Terminator, in which Kyle Reese says to Sarah Connor "come with me if you want to live" or more likely from the sequel Terminator 2: Judgment Day where Arnold Schwarzenegger delivers the line to Linda Hamilton, as he is seen as an enemy even though he wants to help.
These trivia bits don't really sound intentional. To me, it seems like coincidence. But I haven't seen the imitated film, so if someone knows better they can tell me.Hadoren 22:41, 2 July 2006 (UTC)
- It's definitely a Terminator reference. -66.226.105.98 06:48, 28 July 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Koo Koo Kachoo
In the Trivia section, it says that Crunch's fraze ". . .koo koo kachoo. . ." may come from a missinterpreted Beatles song line. But there's also the song by Simon and Garfunkel "Mrs. Robinson" which contains the line "Koo koo ka choo".
Anyway, I thought that speculation wasn't fitting for an encyclopedia. --ComposerWannabe 04:04, 19 July 2006 (UTC)
- For my next trick, I shall recorrect the errors made on the top paragraph. Hold your breath! Ready? Now!
In the Trivia section, it says that CRUSH'S phrase... A•N•N•Afoxlover PLEASE SIGN HERE, ANYONE! 23:14, 18 February 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Species
All of the other characters have exact species, yet Sheldon and his fathaer and Peach are labeled only as "sea horse" and "sea star" does anybody have a more definite labeling for them?
[edit] Pelicans
The Pelicans (Nigel and Gerald) can't be Brown Pelicans because they only live in North America[2]. Anyone know what species they are (or have good screenshots that a bird-knowlegeable Wikipedian could identify with)? --Pharaoh Hound (talk) 21:54, 9 September 2006 (UTC)
Wouldnt they be Australian Pelicans? Definetly not a Brown Pelican Irokin 09:58, 24 September 2006 (UTC)
- Almost definitely. The range matches (obviously, considering the name). I can't remember what they look like in the movie, but I think that they were white with black patches on their lower body. --Pharaoh Hound (talk) 12:40, 24 September 2006 (UTC)
The pelicans in the movie look more like American White Pelicans, certainly not like the Australian Pelican. The gulls are also of a variety not found in Australia. It seems after thoroughly researching fish, the makers of the film didn't care to get the rest of the critters accurate. Gemfyre (talk) 12:39, 25 December 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Featured Article?
What are anybody's thoughts on trying to improve this article to FA standard? Naturally, the first step would be a peer review, then we can work on it. It would be nice to emulate the success of the Final Fantasy articles and have several Pixar articles featured. RMS Oceanic
[edit] Good Article Instead
I think this would be would better for a good article, this just doesn't have the standards of an FA yet, but I think it's a great good article. Comments? •The RSJ• (Main Hub - Rants) 03:11, 19 September 2006 (UTC)
- You're probably right. I've requested a peer review anyway, so we know how to improve it. Once we act on the recommendations, we can nominate it for GA. How does that sound? RMS Oceanic 06:08, 19 September 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Mr. Incredible picture isn't
I'm removing the trivia section that points out the picture of Mr. Incredible shown when Nigel first appears - later in the film, when the dentist scoops Nemo up into a plastic baggie and Nemo tries to escape but gets caught, the picture is shown close-up. The picture really shows the dentist receiving a golden trophy shaped like a tooth. --Dandaman32 02:25, 21 October 2006 (UTC)
- (edit) I accidentally hit enter when I was editing the page :-] so my edit summary simply says "Removed" - oops. It should be "Removed trivia point regarding picture of Mr. Incredible in dentist's office" --Dandaman32 02:29, 21 October 2006 (UTC)
- I KNOW THE ANSWER AND YOU DON"T!!! HAHAHA!!! The Mr. Incredible picture was on the comic book that the boy was reading (Mr. Popyourmouthopenwhenapelicanisattackingadentist). But you are right about the one picture in the dentist's office showing Philip Sherman holding the "Golden Tooth Award". HAHAHA!!!—Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.38.214.49 (talk • contribs)
[edit] Goofs
The last goof mentioned claims that Marlin and Nemo live in The Great Barrier Reef which is actually in Australia, so they didn't have to swim far to find Nemo. However, swimming from the Great Barrier Reef (Queensland) to Sydney (New South Wales) would clearly be a very long journey for a fish - 58.107.100.71 07:40 - November 11, 2006
- I'd like to go one step further and question the necessity of the goofs section all together. Is there really much point in highlighting minor inconsistencies in the logic and flow of a story concerning talking fish? I think this section should be deleted. RMS Oceanic 08:10, 11 November 2006 (UTC)
- Or maybe you could add another goof, pointing out that "fish don't talk." Of course, then some stickler for the rules would want a citation for that claim. >:( Wahkeenah 08:17, 11 November 2006 (UTC)
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- Um, no, that'd be common knowledge. ;) Appropriate citations are part of what makes a Good Article - stuff that isn't common knowledge to all, or, in the case of Finding Nemo, only common knowledge to Australians, or Pixar staff, etc. Some of the stuff in the "Wider effects" section, for example, really does need proper citation - like the managing body for the Great Barrier Reef allowing much higher levels of collection of clownfish as a result of the movie. I don't recall anything being in the news about that at the time (and believe you me, it would have been an Issewe!), and a quick google only reveals that Vanuatu was selling clownfish. - Malkinann 11:30, 11 November 2006 (UTC)
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- Or maybe you could add another goof, pointing out that "fish don't talk." Of course, then some stickler for the rules would want a citation for that claim. >:( Wahkeenah 08:17, 11 November 2006 (UTC)
suspension of disbelief people Dragon queen4ever 23:38, 5 October 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Inaccuracies Section
I don't believe that "Male clownfish can change into females." is needed. The movie never mentions that Marlin ever tried to turn into a female, nor does it mention that he should've tried. The other ones (A whale's stomach is not connected to it's lungs, etc.) at least make sense and deal with the plot. The females one doesn't seem that pertinant. Hightower 40 23:53, 5 December 2006 (UTC)
OK. Dora Nichov 10:35, 6 December 2006 (UTC)
- Did you know that it's actually the other way around? The FEMALE clownfish can turn into MALES.—Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.38.214.49 (talk • contribs)
[edit] Merger proposal
This is a request to merge Marlin (Finding Nemo) and Dory (Finding Nemo) into this article. Neither article is sufficient on its own to warrant an encyclopedic entry. --Snicker|¥°€| 20:38, 26 December 2006 (UTC)
- Agree per nom RMS Oceanic 21:55, 26 December 2006 (UTC)
- Agree AUTiger ʃ talk/work 02:28, 27 December 2006 (UTC)
- Since no one has disagreed in the last 10 days, I'm merging the two articles into this one. Not that there's much to merge, anyway. --Snicker|¥°€| 02:09, 6 January 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Too lengthy
Article is way too lengthy for a Wikipedia article. It may be possible to trim the article of it's bulk without cutting out too much information (or at least, the information that doesn't belong in an Encyclopedia). 24.23.51.27 20:12, 30 December 2006 (UTC)
Just cleaned up the trivia section, alot of it was doubled or could be added to a character section or just deleted. -Violask81976 21:37, 26 July 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Suggestion for plot replacement
This is my suggestion to replace the current "Plot". It's a little rough, so rewrites are welcome.
(rewritten on 8 January 2007) (rewritten again on 18 January 2007)
The title character, Nemo (voice by Alexander Gould), is a young clownfish who is smothered by his overprotective father, a widower named Marlin (Albert Brooks). When Nemo tries to prove that he doesn't need all this protection, he is captured by a human diver at the edge of the Great Barrier Reef. Marlin desperately swims after the diver's boat into the open ocean but he quickly falls behind. Afraid that he is about to lose his son forever, Marlin asks for help from a number of fish before finally finding one who knows where the boat went: Dory (Ellen DeGeneres), a blue tang who is suffering from short-term memory loss. While young Nemo finds himself in an aquarium in a dentist's office filled with an unusual assortment of sea-creatures bent on escape, Marlin and Dory race to Nemo's rescue, meeting many different types of fish, several sharks, and even a group of sea turtles in the East-Australian Current. After a number of misadventures for both groups, Marlin and Nemo are finally reunited.
--Snicker|¥°€| 19:08, 5 January 2007 (UTC)
- Rewrite number 2. Any commentary? If I don't see any complaints, I'll go ahead and replace the current bloated plot section with this brief summary in a few days. --Snicker|¥°€| 17:56, 18 January 2007 (UTC)
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- Looks good. Go for it. RMS Oceanic 18:02, 18 January 2007 (UTC)
- Oops. Didn't check the talk page before editing the plot. Sorry! Feel free to replace my edits. Rougeblossom 21:52, 19 January 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Needless duplication
Not sure why someone reverted the edits I made to the article, but is there any good reason to have information duplicated in this article? The information under "Animals Featured" pretty much duplicates the information under the character listing. As this is an encyclopediac entry about a movie, rather than an aquarium, I fail to see a) the relevance, and b) the need for duplication. Also, keeping in mind the length of this article, I would think we would be interested in reducing the size, not making it bloated.
Consider this the request for open discussion on whether the "Animals Featured" section needs to be in this article. If there are no complaints, I will remove it once more in a week. --Snicker|¥°€| 23:52, 6 January 2007 (UTC)
- There have been no replies for or against. I am removing the section once more. --Snicker|¥°€| 14:04, 16 January 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Merge?
I thought that the Marlin (Finding Nemo) article was merged here per Revision as of 22:11, 5 January 2007 by Snicker. Was the merge reverted?SpikeJones 03:35, 24 January 2007 (UTC)
- Thanks for catching that, SpikeJones. Marlin (Finding Nemo) has been re-reverted (bleurgh), and a note placed to let the editor know why. This article will be improved whether it likes it or not! *heh* --Snicker|¥°€| 14:11, 24 January 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Unexplained reverts
I have made some minor changes and removed some vandalism (such as the removal of the plot section header and spoiler warning) that was being carried forward after removal of other vandalism to the page by other editors. I am being repeatedly reverted by another editor without any explanation in the edit summary. I'd like to discuss this here, because edit warring (especially without any edit summary to attempt to explain the reversion) is not a valid method for editing articles. ju66l3r 08:41, 7 February 2007 (UTC)
- Why did you remove the inaccuracies section? Dora Nichov 08:43, 7 February 2007 (UTC)
This section is the product of original research and thus has no place in a Wikipedia article. If another source, such as a magazine or newspaper article, has commented on the inaccuracies of the movie compared to reality, then it might be of interest to the article, but as it stands right now, it is the work product of WP:OR and therefore needs to be removed. It is not the place of the Wikipedia community to analyze a movie for specific information like this, but instead should be the result of finding such an analysis from a secondary source and making Wikipedia a tertiary source of that information at that point. I have left the section in for now to generate more opinion of its removal/remaining on the talk page, but I will label it with my OR concerns. ju66l3r 08:55, 7 February 2007 (UTC)
Good idea. Dora Nichov 08:59, 7 February 2007 (UTC)
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- I don't think an inaccuracies section should have been removed. Many movies have such a section. Maybe, Ju6613r, it was a bit unwise to remove it without discussing it here first. I can't judge on it... well just because it's not there because you removed it posthaste. --Maxl 01:38, 10 February 2007 (UTC)
I think so too. Dora Nichov 02:02, 10 February 2007 (UTC)
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- Disagree The inaccuracies section contributes to the bloat of the article, which is already quite long as it is. This is a fictional work, a cartoon at that. We cannot expect everything to be perfectly realistic and accurate in a cartoon. Bugs Bunny cartoons would have a field day with that.... --Snicker|¥°€| 15:19, 12 February 2007 (UTC)
- As I'm thinking about it, someone made an excellent point in a discussion above:
"While looking for Nemo, Marlin and Dory speak to one another and to several other undersea creatures numerous times. Neither fish nor lobsters or crabs have the necessary organs required for speaking, nor do they have the capacity to understand the spoken word. 204.69.40.7 14:03, 18 April 2006 (UTC)"
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- That's a great point, and one I think makes the case that the "inaccuracies" section should probably be dropped entirely. --Snicker|¥°€| 14:48, 13 February 2007 (UTC)
- I agree whole heartedly. Nitpicking things like this when the species in question are not normally sentient just takes up unnecessary space. RMS Oceanic 15:09, 13 February 2007 (UTC)
- That's a great point, and one I think makes the case that the "inaccuracies" section should probably be dropped entirely. --Snicker|¥°€| 14:48, 13 February 2007 (UTC)
So where are we on this discussion? Remove or keep? --Snicker|¥°€| 14:22, 19 February 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Nemo's dad
The name of Nemo's dad is Marlin. I found out that's also the name of a family of fish which is much more formidable than a clownfish. Does anyone know if this naming was intentional or just pure coincidence? I haven't read anything about it ever before. However, I added a sentence about it. I didn't add any speculation so I hope it won't be deleted - at least without discussion. ;) --Maxl 01:38, 10 February 2007 (UTC)
- That seems right, or maybe it is that "Marlin" means sailor in Spanish? ANNAfoxlover 15:24, 10 February 2007 (UTC)
- That's unlikely. Marlin doesn't yeld any result in the Spanish wikipedia. Please just check the link I posted above - it's convincing. ;) --Maxl 02:13, 11 February 2007 (UTC)
- Sailor in spanish is "Marinaro". I'm sure the choice of "Marlin" was the same as the choices for all the other names - they all have something to do with water. (A dory is a kind of boat, coral (Nemo's mother) is... well, coral. And Nemo, of course, was the name of the undersea captain in Jules Verne's book). --Snicker|¥°€| 15:33, 12 February 2007 (UTC)
- That's unlikely. Marlin doesn't yeld any result in the Spanish wikipedia. Please just check the link I posted above - it's convincing. ;) --Maxl 02:13, 11 February 2007 (UTC)
[edit] The References to Finding Nemo section
Shouldn't these all be on their respective pages? RMS Oceanic 22:15, 23 February 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Finding "Rocko"?
This article says that one time in the movie, Dory accidentally says "Rocko" when referring to Nemo, as a result of her short-term memory loss. I tried to find it by watching the entire movie on the high volume. I could not hear her saying this. But this was not the only Internet site that said that Dory called Nemo "Rocko". Did I miss something, or did she NOT say "Rocko"? Someone help me!!! ANNAfoxlover 21:48, 27 January 2007 (UTC)
- I believe she says "Rocky" but I don't remember
- I said help me, okay? That doesn't help one bit. A•N•N•Afoxlover PLEASE SIGN HERE, ANYONE! 23:00, 18 February 2007 (UTC)
I remember her saying "Poor Rocko." I watched the movie yesterday.--Crustaceanguy 20:54, 20 February 2007 (UTC)
- Where? Tell me, PLEASE!!! PLEASE!!! PLEASE!!!!!!!!! A•N•N•Afoxlover PLEASE SIGN HERE, ANYONE! 13:49, 3 March 2007 (UTC)
I don't ever remember hearing Dory say "Rocko" at all in the movie. I've heard Fabio, Elmo, Harpo and some other names, but not "Rocko"... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.225.128.144 (talk) 23:46, 26 February 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Discussion to remove inaccuracies section
As a fictional cartoon, I think we can all agree that there is no need to cite real-world inaccuracies. This movie does not attempt to portray reality, nor does it presume to be an accurate documentary on aquatic life. Please present formal, non-POV reasons for maintaining this section, as it relates to this article about an animated movie. --Snicker|¥°€| 15:15, 26 April 2007 (UTC)
- Okay, it's been another 5 days with no other input. This was the second attempt to open dialogue on the topic (see above), and we didn't get anywhere that time, either. So... in the interest of being BOLD, the section on inaccuracies is gone. --Snicker|¥°€| 19:16, 1 May 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Trivia - Wallace & Gromit references
I'm not sure about these two statements. The "Wallaby Way" is surely just meant to sound Australian as wallabies live in Australia. I also think the seagulls do not particularly look like Feathers McGraw. As a whole I feel this section is verging on original research... Halsteadk 13:22, 28 April 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Add to "Fictional Fish" category?
Should Nemo go in the fictional fish category, since it exists? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Fictional_fish
- List of Finding Nemo characters is in this Category, I think thats ok. EAi 16:35, 30 July 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Memorial Dedication at End of Film
Does anyone know the story behind the memorial dedication at the end of the film? During the closing credits, it states: "For Glenn McQueen 1960-2002." Is the background information for this dedication useful for this article? Thanks. (JosephASpadaro 23:27, 1 June 2007 (UTC))
- There's an article on Glenn McQueen. You might want to try that. Miranda 18:05, 2 June 2007 (UTC)
- Got it. Thanks. (JosephASpadaro 00:05, 3 June 2007 (UTC))
[edit] The List
We should make a character list. Also I think we should the Toy Story, Monster Inc, bugs life, cars, and all othe pixar related character list combine to make one long page and history of Pixar chararcters. From User:4444hhhh
- Already exists: List of Finding Nemo characters EAi 16:32, 30 July 2007 (UTC)
[edit] finding Marlin
I heard of this being a squeal
[edit] Trailers
One Pixar tradition is to create trailers for their films that do not contain footage from the released film. Trailers for this film include:
- Marlin asks a school of fish for directions and Dory scares them away.
[edit] Attached short film
The theatrical and video/DVD release of this film includes Knick Knack, a Pixar short made in 1989.
[edit] Trivia
When Dory said goodbye to Nemo, she said "Bye, Elmo", as she forgotten Nemo. Elmo is from Sesame Street —Preceding unsigned comment added by Malkinann (talk • contribs) 08:53, 5 September 2007 (UTC)
I'm moving all trivia out of the article and into the talk page - if we can cite them or work them back into the article in a meaningful fashion then they're convienient. -Malkinann 08:56, 5 September 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Finding Nemo Fans
I like the movie Finding Nemo a lot because the computer images are really cute, and it contains clean humor. This kind of entertainment makes watching movies enjoyable, it also makes watching movies with the family more interactive. I hope they come out with a Finding Nemo 2 because this movie was definently a hit. Plus, we need to see more of Nemo and his friends... especially Squirt. I would like to know your thoughts on this topic and what you think about the show. Thank you! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Lnerickson (talk • contribs) 18:14, 27 November 2007 (UTC)
I want to see a Finding Nemo 2. But i don't think Pixar will produce another one. As at the end of the film i said "The End". Meaning Pixar will not make another sequel of the film. Azzstar (talk) 23:32, 16 December 2007 (UTC)
Erm...just because it was the end of the first film does not mean they won't make another.CarrieOkie86 (talk) 03:32, 25 April 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Lesson
Should there be a mention of the lesson portrayed in the film? It's notable because most children's films have a lesson for the children. Nemo has one for over protective parents. Theneogon (talk) 18:14, 8 May 2008 (UTC)