Talk:Final Fantasy III

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Good article Final Fantasy III was one of the Everyday life good articles, but it has been removed from the list. There are suggestions below for improving the article to meet the good article criteria. Once these issues have been addressed, the article can be renominated. Editors may also seek a reassessment of the decision if they believe there was a mistake.
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[edit] Good Article Pass Remark

Assessment of article completed by Auroranorth on 16 February 2007 for Good Article Status. For any disputes, please talk to me.

I passed this article because it meets all criteria listed. Auroranorth 12:16, 16 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Dark Cloud

What Final Fantasy was Dark Cloud from? I don't remember anything of that sort. There's

Final Fantasy V -- Shinryuu, Omega Final Fantasy VII & VIII -- Ultima Weapon & Omega Weapon Final Fantasy IX -- Ozma Final Fantasy X -- the monster arena monsters

where is Dark Cloud?

Er... Dark Cloud is the final boss from Final Fantasy III. Maybe you're confused with Final Fantasy VI? --Michiel Sikma 15:36, 11 October 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Changed Dark Cloud to Cloud of Darkness

Dark Cloud was what it was called in this page, I changed it to the official name, which what it will most likely be called in the Final Fantasy III translation. Dark Cloud was from the unofficial translation, as the name didn't fit.

To the guy above, Cloud of Darkness (Dark Cloud) was the last boss in Final Fantasy III. Maybe you're thinking of Final Fantasy VI (Called 3 in North America), the one with Kefka.

I didn't know Dark Cloud/Cloud of Darkness had an "official" name. After all, the game hasn't passed through official translators yet. Do we have any sources to confirm this? Viltris 00:54, 13 January 2006 (UTC)
No, and we won't know until (or unless) FFIII is released on the DS. Its title English is totally ambiguous as of right now. ~ Hibana 02:20, 13 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Storyline

The Story section of the article doesn't contain a story; it contains a blurb instead. It would be nice if an actual outline of the full story could be given. Naturally, it's not really possible to do that if it's written the same way the blurb is because of how long it'd be. --Michiel Sikma 19:27, 31 December 2005 (UTC)

I don't think it's short enough to be honest. These articles need short synopses such as that in Final Fantasy VII, without an incredible amount of detail (see Final Fantasy IX story). Final Fantasy VI's story section was cut down for a Featured Article drive. One other article that has a story section that is way too long is Final Fantasy IV, which I've been meaning to conform to FFVI for some time now. ~ Hibana 06:22, 1 January 2006 (UTC)
I agree. It should be much shorter, more concise, and more complete. --Michiel Sikma 07:42, 19 January 2006 (UTC)
Yeah; I merged the FFIX story article with FFIX a while ago; it's fairly concise now, yet it covers the story. Deckiller 16:46, 21 January 2006 (UTC)
I removed the excessive pragraphs containing storyline, leaving only the first and a few sentences from the second. ~Ultimate77 April 22, 2006
Thank you. ~ Hibana 02:20, 23 April 2006 (UTC)

What? Why couldn't we make an acutal descrition of the plot? Its been done on every other page about video games. Kou Nurasaka 14:51, 24 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] crystal chronicles resemblance

am I the only one who feels that the remake's graphics look a lot like FF:CC's graphics?

[edit] Scholar... a "Mage-type" class?

Despite the name, I really don't think the Scholar should be considered a "mage-type" class. When you first get them they actually do a decent amount of damage from smacking enemies with books, and they can't actually use any magic at all (not even a "special" magic type like the Geomancer has).

The Scholar abilities--Peep and Scan--are generally magic spells in the rest of the series... So you can say that the Scholar DOES use a bit of magic. It physically resembles a mage more than a warrior anyway.--Darkhunger 12:35, 25 April 2006 (UTC)
The Scholar was simply implemented to counter the difficulty of bosses who "wall change." (Change their weakness at will.) Using a Scholar, if I remember correctly, is only critical in 1 or 2 spots. Otherwise, they are pretty much without purpose. Technically, I wouldn't catagorize them with mages. I'm not even sure how this misconception would come about. Grendel 23:07, 1 July 2006 (UTC)

Scholars can use some magic (for the DS, anyway), and they can only use up to level 3 magic. Here is gamefaqs guide, if it helps: http://db.gamefaqs.com/portable/ds/file/final_fantasy_iii_ds_job_stats.txt

-Brad 69.130.236.88 00:47, 19 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Should it be split?

Given that the DS version is so different from the original (3D!) should it be split off into a seperate article or kept in here? Optichan 15:04, 10 May 2006 (UTC)

Maybe split, but wait until the DS version is actually released to do it. If Final Fantasy I & II: Dawn of Souls gets it's own article... --JiFish(Talk/Contrib) 15:09, 10 May 2006 (UTC)

I think this has been discussed before, but I'm not sure. The thing about the compilation games is that they contain more than one enhanced version. That's why the WonderSwan Color version of Final Fantasy I is in that article and the Game Boy Advance version is in a seperate one with Final Fantasy II as Final Fantasy I & II: Dawn of Souls. We wouldn't have seperate articles for Final Fantasy IV Advance, etc. However, since it's so radically different we could discuss perhaps renaming the series template section "Compilations and collections" to "Alternate versions" to put a Final Fantasy III (Nintendo DS) article in that way. ~ Hibana 15:46, 10 May 2006 (UTC)

I completely agree with the original poster that the article should be split, much like Super Mario 64 and Super Mario 64 DS are separate articles. Not only is the game in pseudo-3D, but the game has actual characters with default names and backstories, while some of the gameplay has been slightly altered. The article name, however, should not be Final Fantasy III DS, because the title remains Final Fantasy III. Instead, we should go for a Final Fantasy III (DS game). I think that Final Fantasy III should still redirect to this page, with a second notice at the top regarding the DS game. And this page should, of course, include a DS section, with a link to the main article. --Tristam 17:10, 14 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Nintendo Wi-Fi Connection

Apparently, the DS version will be online. Details? --Gaming King 08:16, 11 June 2006 (UTC)

I haven't found any sources for this, and I took it off the WiFi games list. It sounds bogus to me and since there's no proof, I think it's safe to say someone confused this with the Crystal Chronicles DS game which has been said to have WiFi. --Trance 22:16, 17 June 2006 (UTC)
Actually, the official sites themselves state it uses the Wi-Fi features of the DS. Heck, there's a screenshot of a page from the latest Nintendo Power that reconfirm this. [1] 75.5.195.252 21:26, 20 June 2006 (UTC)
IGN also confirms this. [2]
Yes, I read about it in Nintendo Power. Details are still sparse, but the game uses both processers on a single screen at times for superb graphics. --Gaming King 23:40, 1 July 2006 (UTC)
Gamespot posted this article yesterday. It talks about a "mailing system" similar to the Mognet from Final Fantasy IX and how there might be a possibility that you can send other people mail through the WFC. Think this might be how Final Fantasy III will be utilizing the Wi-Fi Connection? [3] TranscendentWarrior 12:41, 21 July 2006


[edit] Mognet/Mail System

Is anyone going to add the info about the mognet/mail system? If not then I will, with proper reference --Cocopopz2005

Actually I've gone and addes about it with reference. Though it most likely needs a little cleanup/recheck

--Cocopopz2005

If anyone would like to test the Friend Code message functionality (along with bonus class and secret dungeon only accessible through this functionality), get the DS connected to WIFI, and chat with a moogle in a town. A Friend Code to try would be 403812605590. Generate a Friend Code for your game, then post your code in response here, and then we can see how the system works. I believe each user needs to enter the code into their DS in order to be able to communicate with eachother. Should probably link from the Nintendo Wi-Fi Connection page too.

--Ryanfenton 05:49, 5 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] FFIII split

I suggest that because FFIII DS is so drastically changed from FFIII NES, it needs a new article to discuss all of its contents fully. - A Link to the Past (talk) 05:46, 28 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] DS date

Wasn't the DS version released on the 23rd? I seem to remember that date from when I was in Japan (The Japanese version. (OT)My GF is sending me the Japanese version. Will have it next week. Can't wait!)

[edit] Remove from Category:Japan exclusive computer and video games?

Since the game is now officially released in English outside Japan, shouldn't it be taken off the list? RAM 01:42, 13 January 2007 (UTC)

This article is mainly for the NES/Famicom game.—ウルタプ 01:48, 13 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] No Dido

I've removed the wikilink to Dido (singer) because of my reasoning on Talk:Final Fantasy III Yūkyū no Kaze Densetsu. Kariteh 14:56, 11 May 2007 (UTC)

Found something interesting, and true in Talk:Final Fantasy III Yūkyū no Kaze Densetsu! — Bluerです。 なにか? 15:48, 11 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Merger of Character page to main article

LOVE This game, playing through it right now, but the character page has no references and seems to have no prospect of having any, so it would be a great idea to bolster the main article with more detail from it, making one strong GA article. Judgesurreal777 22:41, 12 May 2007 (UTC)

Yeah, it can be covered in two simple paragraphs. — Deckiller 22:43, 12 May 2007 (UTC)
Disagree with merging the Character page into this article. The Character page pertains to both this game and the remake, it should be split-merged into both this and Final Fantasy III (Nintendo DS). Kariteh 07:35, 13 May 2007 (UTC)
Ok, that makes sense too, lets go with that idea, that way both pages will benefit.Judgesurreal777 15:29, 13 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Good article reassessment

I believe this article is in need of delisting or at least several major edits to maintain GA status. I feel the article fails the GA criteria in that the article is severely limited in scope, especially in comparison to its peers. --Hydrokinetics12 (talk) 17:38, 18 February 2008 (UTC)

Reassessment Page

This article was nominated for good article reassessment to determine whether or not it met the good article criteria and so can be listed as a good article. The consensus of the discussion was to delist it. Please see the archived discussion for further information. FightingStreet (talk) 15:41, 10 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Featured topics/Final Fantasy titles

Has to be re-promoted by June 10, 2008 or the topic can be removed. Zginder (talk) (Contrib) 21:18, 10 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Fan translation

Hey, why the mentioning of the English fan translation by Neil Corlett and Alex W. Jacson has been removed? 130.234.5.137 (talk) 00:24, 28 March 2008 (UTC)

It was unreferenced. Judgesurreal777 (talk) 00:34, 28 March 2008 (UTC)
Unreferenced? Well, how about this [4], this [5] or this [6]? Are there not confirming references enough? 130.234.5.138 (talk) 10:44, 28 March 2008 (UTC)