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[edit] References
Regarding some of the new references put in. Ref 36 looks to be a blog, and probably shouldn't be used as a reference. Ref 37 and 38 are fine, but the full book information using a citation template would be best.
Here's the info and template needed: {{cite book| year = | title = | publisher = | language = Japanese| isbn= }}.
Just put that info in between the ref tags and that should take care of it. This is a minor detail, but it is best to nitpick to keep FAs from falling into disrepair. Thanks. (Guyinblack25 talk 15:30, 7 March 2008 (UTC))
- It is not a blog, but a website. It is also the largest square-enix fan site in China, original name of the site is actually square.cn. They released the url address to the official square-enix company after the merge of square and enix. MythSearchertalk 16:21, 7 March 2008 (UTC)
- Ok, when I clicked on the link it brought up an error page. So I tried www.ffsky.com.cn and it redirected to www.ffsky.com.cn/blog. Either way, if it's a fan site, it we probably can't use it either. Do you happen to know of a gaming network review, or a printed source that would mention the content? (Guyinblack25 talk 16:29, 7 March 2008 (UTC))
- Well, it is a secondary source, stating that the books talked about it and having 3 walkthroughs on how to finish the FFV with low level characters. One even calculated the total EXP gained in game that is a must to have. And sorry, I placed a wrong site, it is [www.ffsky.com ffsky.com], not .com.cn(the .com site got a .cn news mirror and I got confused...) MythSearchertalk 16:43, 7 March 2008 (UTC)
- Note:fixed wrong link. Again, sorry for using the wrong url. MythSearchertalk 16:45, 7 March 2008 (UTC)
- Hmmm.... the fact that it is a fan site kind of discredits it. Let me see what I can find in some reviews. Thanks for adding the Ultimania reference info. (Guyinblack25 talk 16:53, 7 March 2008 (UTC))
- As long as it is a source with editorial oversight, it should have its credits, they seems to be a registered company anyway, their register number is 05003107. And citations? The more the merrier :) It would be best to be able to find a English citation, that would help a lot. MythSearchertalk
- Hmmm.... the fact that it is a fan site kind of discredits it. Let me see what I can find in some reviews. Thanks for adding the Ultimania reference info. (Guyinblack25 talk 16:53, 7 March 2008 (UTC))
- Ok, when I clicked on the link it brought up an error page. So I tried www.ffsky.com.cn and it redirected to www.ffsky.com.cn/blog. Either way, if it's a fan site, it we probably can't use it either. Do you happen to know of a gaming network review, or a printed source that would mention the content? (Guyinblack25 talk 16:29, 7 March 2008 (UTC))
The new tweaking is good, but the problem is that it looked like only the two referenced titles have such feature, while V, VI, VIII, IX, X-2 and XII also having such feature(I am not sure about X). It is almost a common element of the series by now. MythSearchertalk 17:26, 7 March 2008 (UTC)
- We can always use more Ultimania books to cite it. I've got a few strategy guides at home I can check too. Besides, since it's only a general statement, the references need not be that in depth. (Guyinblack25 talk 17:29, 7 March 2008 (UTC))
- Well, as I recall, the Ultimania guides started in the PS generation(i.e. VII), thus V and VI need other sources. I got a set of two books that is a collection of I to VI, it should have the info, but it will take probably quite some time before I can find them. Usually Japanese game guides got a list of enemies with EXP, I guess any guide will do in this situation then. MythSearchertalk 17:37, 7 March 2008 (UTC)
- Ok, I've got the FF Anthology guide at home, even though it is for the PS release, it should still cover V and VI. I'll take care of it once I get home later today. Like you said, the more citations, the merrier. (Guyinblack25 talk 17:46, 7 March 2008 (UTC))
- Well, as I recall, the Ultimania guides started in the PS generation(i.e. VII), thus V and VI need other sources. I got a set of two books that is a collection of I to VI, it should have the info, but it will take probably quite some time before I can find them. Usually Japanese game guides got a list of enemies with EXP, I guess any guide will do in this situation then. MythSearchertalk 17:37, 7 March 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Featured topics/Final Fantasy titles
Final Fantasy III has been demoted from GA and needs to be re-promoted by June 10, 2008 or the topic can be removed. Zginder (talk) (Contrib) 21:17, 10 March 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Merge in Final Fantasy battle systems
Please actually look at the article before you voice your opinion. Final Fantasy battle systems As you can see, it is a stub, and 90% of the information is already in the article. Add at most a sentence or two, and this can be merged and eliminate this stubby article that asserts basically no notability. Judgesurreal777 (talk) 18:35, 1 April 2008 (UTC)
- Sounds reasonable to me. It would definitely help the main article by adding another reference. The patent info would be a nice addition that can be sourced by the patent itself. However I do think the battle system article should be trimmed down first to make the merger go more smoothly.
- Another issue is what should be done about the images? The patent image looks like it would be a good one to include instead of the FFIX one currently used. The Tactics one might be a good one for the CTB. I don't think we could include more than two images in that section of the main article (and even that might push it). Any thoughts? (Guyinblack25 talk 19:11, 1 April 2008 (UTC))
- That design sketch looks pretty good, might be good to transfer to the main article. The other one, no opinion, so do what you feel is best with it :) Judgesurreal777 (talk) 19:25, 1 April 2008 (UTC)
- I think that anythig that has to do with FF should be on the page.Just put it in diff sections.Then if somebody's looking for that particular section they can see it in the contents.You should only have at most 2 pictures, just enough so that people who accidentaly find the page will know what it is and might be interested.Just put in 2 really cool scenes from one of the games.Jacob Green696 (talk) 18:43, 14 April 2008 (UTC)
- I agree with the merge too. The FF battle systems article is borderline game guide material. The references to Grandia, Heroes of Might and Magic V, etc. do not establish the notability of the topic, they're just trivial similarities that exist because the FF battle systems simply aren't that unique to begin with. Developers love to create fancy names to make their gameplay features stand out, but in the end these are marketing gimmicks and there's not much to say about them in terms of encyclopedic treatment. Megata Sanshiro (talk) 15:49, 17 April 2008 (UTC)
why is it always Tydus this Tydus that? --Faxle (talk) 18:14, 22 April 2008 (UTC)
- I'm sorry, I don't follow. (Guyinblack25 talk 19:08, 22 April 2008 (UTC))
Well I think that the page shouldn't be that long, but should at least mention how Final Fantasy's battle system began and how it has changed over the years. In regards to the pictures there shouldn't be more than two or three for that's all it really takes. But, it would be tricky to pick the pictures. I suggest that you designate what areas are to get pictures and then go from there. MoggishFashion (talk) 20:15 , 21 May 2008 (UTC)
Seems to be ok. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.82.142.184 (talk) 07:58, May 23, 2008