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Contents 1 Article reads like crap 2 Sequel spoilers 3 Location 4 Recovers from death? Plus names. 5 Plot summary 6 Vandalism 7 Imported Trivia 8 Did this movie ever go by "FD" ? 9 Fair use rationale for Image:Crivers.jpg

[edit] Article reads like crap

This article reads like crap and the English is pretty horrible. Examples: "Alex intervened her" "So Alex got skiped this time" "Carter was smooshed by the sign."

The tenses bounce around, grammar is violated, and I've got no idea what a quarter of the sentences are supposed to say. The wording needs to be redone in a more professional manner.

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I added more to the death section and edited it to look more like the death sections in the other FD movies. Jay 01:48, 9 February 2006 (UTC)

Why is someone costantly taking down the death sections for the Final Destination pages? I work hard on those. Jay 13:43, 9 February 2006 (UTC)

If you don't want your writing to be edited mercilessly or redistributed by others, do not submit it. 68.254.180.104 16:18, 9 February 2006 (UTC)

I at least would like know WHY it is taken down. Jay 01:40, 10 February 2006 (UTC)

Just trying to read this article gives me a headache.

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I wish people wouldn't stuff in parts that are like "this wouldn't happen becuase logically...". This is a movie, and Death couldn't care less about logic and science.220.237.16.234 00:50, 1 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Sequel spoilers

I would suggest that Alex and Clear's deaths not be referred to in the article for the _original_ movie, because that spoils the second movie. True, there's a "spoiler" warning, but presumably most readers will assume the warning pertains only to plot and/or ending details from the first movie. Fillard 04:55, 13 February 2006 (UTC)

Okay, I changed it. Jay 00:15, 15 February 2006 (UTC)

It seems to still be there, so I added this... Template:Spoiler-blank Cbrown1023 02:00, 30 August 2006 (UTC)

I agree, so I reworded them to make more sense and not spoil the next film. Occurtook00 (talk) 03:30, 11 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Location

Does anyone know where this movie takes place? I think it's in Long Island, NY.Thefreakshow 19:38, 20 May 2006 (UTC)

Yes, it is New York. crypto137 6:21, 16 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Recovers from death? Plus names.

I was reading this article and came upon the phrase "Alex intervenes and dies by electric shock, but soon recovers." Huh? I don't remember the film enough to correct that, so someone please... Does he die, or is he injured and recovers?

Also, wouldn't there be a better way of linking the character names to the famous film personalities? Like a section saying "several character names in this movie are a homage to famous past film personalities" and then naming then one by one. Right now they're just linked by their last name, not providing any explanation or anything, it's confusing IMO.

Finally, as someone stated earlier, this article needs a clean up, especially in the grammar department. I may be doing some of that myself if I find the time. Cheers!

ironcito 03:48, 16 January 2007 (UTC)

Good question: Does Alex die? ... I think he did. The ending is getting pretty climactic, it looks like Clear is going to die in the car from either electrocution, this random wire flailing around, or an exploding propane tank. The FBI show up just in time to see Alex grab the wire long enough for Clear to get out of the garage before (I think it explodes...), and Alex is thrown out by the electrocution.

Anyway, it does appear Alex is dead, fade into white, but then it turns out he's all right and in Paris with Clear and that other guy. ... I think it does some explaining there, but I don't remember so much, and can't find the script from the movie. (To sum-up, Alex is nearly killed by a bus, and then Clear is almost killed by something else, but then other guy is killed by a sign that's swung down off a theatre.)

In a different version of the script Alex does die, and the movie ends with Clear giving birth to Alex' love-child. (Like that fake-plot they had in Final Destination 2; only new life can stop the cycle.) search for 'INT. DELIVERY ROOM - DAY - CLEAR' to read this ending.

[edit] Plot summary

I see no reason why the plot summary was so reduced. This isn't some porno with five minutes of backstory and then just random yet cool-looking deaths for two hours, it has a story. I'm gonna write a more detailed synopsis to replace a single paragraph of outline, which seems to have been the norm on this page for a long time. VolatileChemical 04:43, 10 February 2007 (UTC)

Thank you. I noticed this myself. The plot summary bassicaly is just a blurb of the beggining of the movie. FaithAquamarine16 00:35, 12 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Vandalism

Film is obviously not "based on true events in the 1990s" despite vandalism by IP 68.100.230.254 claiming so several times.

[edit] Imported Trivia

• 180 is the police code for murder in New York.
• Devon Sawa had a contractual dispute with New Line so he didn't appear in FD2.
• Although the film is set in New York, the freight train that smashes Carter's car is a BC Rail train. BC Rail only runs in Canada.
• Based on an unused X-Files script. The film was directed by James Wong, who worked on The X-Files.
• Many of the characters have names that derive from actors and directors of classic horror films, including Alfred Hitchcock, Max Schreck, and others. Clear was named after an assistant. Additionally, Clear's name was originally "Kimberly" in the early draft, this name is given to the protagonist in Final Destination 2.
• In the bus scene, right when Carter and Terry arrive in Carter's car, the track "Into the Void" by Nine Inch Nails is playing on the radio and the words "final destination" can be heard in the lyrics.
• The song "Rocky Mountain High" by John Denver is played throughout the movie, always before someone dies (fittingly, Denver himself was killed in a plane crash in 1997). This concept was used again for Final Destination 3 when the song "Turn Around, Look At Me" was played before many of the deaths.
• The crash of Flight 180 has a great many similarities with another plane crash, Trans World Airlines Flight 800. Both planes were 747s, both were flying from JFK to Charles de Gaulle, and both exploded right after take-off due to electrical equipment short circuiting. Among the passengers of Flight 800 were a group of students from Montoursville, Pennsylvania going on a class trip to France, just like Alex and his classmates in the film.
• The scene in Paris is actually Bastion Square, Victoria, British Columbia, Canada
• On an episode of Robot Chicken, Final Destination was parodied using the cast from Archie Comics.
• MaximOnline.com named the airplane crash in Final Destination #7 on its list of "Most Horrific Movie Plane Crashes."
• At the end of the opening scene an image of Jim Morrison is shown in a book. It shows his grave and graffited on the grave it says "This is the End." This phrase was a part of his song "The End" which he sung in. It also is metaphoric for the mistreatment of Jim Morrison's grave, but also that Jim Morrison died young.
• The teens travel along either the Meadowbrook or Wantagh Parkway when they enter Jones Beach. They see a sign just before the beach entrance that says "New York: 93 miles", when Jones Beach actually less than 15 miles from New York City limits and approximately 25-30 miles from Manhattan.
• Jones Beach State Park is in reality a 6.5 mile long, wide, flat and treeless beach. In the movie the beach is portrayed completely different.

Above is trivia imported from the article, since no attempt to integrate it has been made. —Erik (talk • contrib) - 17:23, 18 July 2007 (UTC)

Also I don't know if this was ever pointed out elsewhere, but the name Tod is also the German word for death, so during his foreshadowing with the shredded newspaper it was not only showing his name but announcing death as well... thought I'd mention it in case trivia ever gets integrated somewhere. Enigmatic2k3 (talk) 04:52, 19 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Did this movie ever go by "FD" ?

I've removed Final Destination from the disambiguation page of FD. Feel free to reinsert if the movie goes by FD. Guroadrunner 12:00, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

It didn't go by "four stock", "no items", or "Fox only" either :-) --Damian Yerrick (talk | stalk) 04:05, 9 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Fair use rationale for Image:Crivers.jpg

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