Talk:Final Cut Pro

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

	This article is part of WikiProject Macintosh. This means that the WikiProject has identified it as an article pertaining to the Macintosh, but is not currently working to improve it. WikiProject Macintosh itself is an attempt to improve, grow, standardize, and attain featured status for Wikipedia's articles related to Macintosh and Apple Inc. We need all your help, so join in today!
???	This article has not yet received a rating on the assessment scale.

	Film Portal This article is within the scope of WikiProject Films. This project is a central gathering of editors working to build comprehensive and detailed articles for film topics on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, you can edit the article attached to this page, or visit the project page, where you can join the project and/or contribute to the discussion.
B This article has been rated as B-Class on the quality scale. ??? This article has not yet received a rating on the priority scale.
Editing Guidelines Please remember these guidelines when editing a film article: If a non-film article already exists with the name of the film that you are trying to create an article for, disambiguate and use (film) in the title: Film Title (film) For more information see: Wikipedia:Naming conventions (films) When writing an article about a particular film, the general format should be a concise lead section, followed by a plot summary of no more than 900 words, production details, a cast list, a reception section, and references. Create an Infobox that tells all pertinent information about the film.
Additional Information: This article has been checked against the following criteria for B-Class status: Referencing and citation: not checked Coverage and accuracy: not checked Structure: not checked Grammar: not checked Supporting materials: not checked To fill out this checklist, please add the following to the template call: <!-- 1. It is suitably referenced, and all major points are appropriately cited. --> |B-Class-1=yes/no <!-- 2. It reasonably covers the topic, and does not contain major omissions or inaccuracies. --> |B-Class-2=yes/no <!-- 3. It has a defined structure, including a lead section and one or more sections of content. --> |B-Class-3=yes/no <!-- 4. It is free from major grammatical errors. --> |B-Class-4=yes/no <!-- 5. It contains appropriate supporting materials, such as an infobox, images, or diagrams. --> |B-Class-5=yes/no Related task forces (general): Filmmaking task force

Contents 1 Feature films list 2 Documentry 3 External link 4 Intel Macs??? 5 Adobe Stock Price & FCP 6 FCP History and Avid? 7 Avid NAB 2008 8 Inconsistency 9 Time Remapping 10 Films Edited with FCP Section

[edit] Feature films list

Should the feature films edited be moved further down the page? OK, post Cold Mountain FCP can edit feature films, granted, but on that basis every Vogue cover should be in the Photoshop listing! Less gravitas, more info. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.20.114.57 (talk • contribs)

Agreed. I have moved the list to List of feature films edited with Final Cut Pro, linked it appropriately on the main FCP article, and reduced the list on the main article to a short paragraph. It conveys the fact that FCP is a serious film-editing program, without burdening the article with a long list. While I think that it would be quite appropriate for the list page to grow extensively, I would think that any films listed on the main page should either be big-budget or significant in their technical breakthroughs (like Sky Captain). --TangentIdea 02:11, 18 May 2006 (UTC)

Frankly, I think this list has no reason to be here. Can anyone prove all of these films were edited with Final Cut Pro? There are no citations for any of them. In fact, I visited Joel Cox in the cutting room while he was working on Letters from Iwo Jima, and he was most definitely using Avid to cut it. To me, that makes almost all of these films suspect. --Guido del Confuso 11:35, 15 July 2007 (UTC)

I'm confident the list has every reason to be here, for the same reason a college entry might list notable alumnii. I believe it should remain. It's not oppressively long, and it provides an illustrative progression from smaller, more indie films, to large studio product. However, if there's indeed a mistake in it (like Letters from Iwo Jima -- as you attest and seem to be sure of) feel free to edit it out or contest that information with a citation. WikiTracker 00:08, 16 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Documentry

Should we also include a list for documentrys? there are many docos done in finl cut there were more then just a simple cut between scenes, such as "The Secret" (Nickcirc 06:39, 17 April 2007 (UTC))

[edit] External link

Anon editor 209.164.32.131 (talk · contribs) added the following external link, http://finalcutpro.digitalmedianet.com/. Other recently added links from this IP have been borderline spam, or at least a low quality links. Could someone more knowledgable about Final Cut Pro please investigate. BlankVerse ∅ 13:58, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Intel Macs???

Has FCP been re-written for the new Intel Macs? Will it run on them?...

Currently, no. It will not run on Intel Macs at all. The Universal Binary version is in development and should be released before the end of March. See [1]. --Baryonic Being 22:33, 24 March 2006 (UTC)

If I had a dollar for every time that question was asked on the Final Cut boards on the Apple Support site, I would have enough saved up to buy the Universal Binary when it gets released... --TangentIdea 23:01, 24 March 2006 (UTC)

Final Cut Studio Universal is now available, and can be upgraded by users of FCP, or any of the other programs included in FC Studio. One is required to mail in a form and their original DVD-ROM discs along with payment. See [2] David Fell

[edit] Adobe Stock Price & FCP

There's a line in this article that states that Adobe's stock price dropped on introduction of Final Cut Pro. In looking at historical financial data for the time I can't see this. I don't want to remove the passage immediately because I'm not overly familiar with the topic, but look at this information on the Yahoo Finance site linked to below and Adobe's stock really rose in the year 1999, not really seeing any major decrease due to FCP (or so it seems).

http://finance.yahoo.com/q/hp?s=ADBE&a=01&b=10&c=1999&d=08&e=10&f=1999&g=w

I'm going to leave it to someone familiar with the topic to do the actual edit, otherwise it may just be edited out again for inconsistency...

P toolan 15:30, 6 May 2006 (UTC)

The article states that Adobe Premiere's market share plummeted after the intro of FCP, not Adobe's stock price. Which is reasonably accurate, but probably overstating the case -- there was fairly rapid market attrition over the following 1-2 years after FCP was introduced, not an instant sales freeze on Premiere.

squeegee 15:30, 15 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] FCP History and Avid?

The history section has no mention whatsoever of the fiercest rival of FCP, which was Avid. The whole section concentrates on Adobe Premiere as the "other side", which is only half of the story. Unfortunately, I am not that proficient with the details as to expand the section on this story, but anyone who remembers the "50,000$ editing system. Now 98% off" slogan on Apple's website when FCP was launched knows what I mean. At the time, Avid was the dominant offline editing system on the market, and was sold exclusively as a complete Apple-Avid system on macs. Part of Apple's move with FCP was to retaliate on Avid's decision to open their system to the Windows platform - hence the contemptuous slogan (A high-end Avid system would cost something around the 50k$)

Guycarmeli 16:29, 11 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Avid NAB 2008

Mentioning that Avid announced it will have a small booth at NAB this year seems like an editorial comment, designed to give the impression that FCP is dominating the professional editing market and Avid is withering on the vine. FCP has made noteworthy gains, but it is still very much the exception rather than the rule. Suggest this sentence be removed. --75.178.92.119 (talk) 18:46, 3 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Inconsistency

The features section of this article claims that an unlimited number of video tracks can be simultaneously composited, yet the article Comparison of video editing software pegs the maximum for Final Cut Studio at 99 video tracks. Does anyone know which is correct? — Swpb ^{talk contribs} 15:14, 2 April 2007 (UTC)

The page seems to have been rewritten by users of other editing systems, and not by Final Cut Pro users.—Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.198.13.178 (talk • contribs)

So which is correct? — Swpb ^{talk contribs} 21:44, 2 April 2007 (UTC)

You can have 99 tracks in a sequence, however with nesting (putting a sequence in a sequence) you can have unlimited basically (basically 99 tracks with any of them being a sequence of 99 tracks with any of them being 99 tracks etc) 74.117.128.12 05:22, 28 May 2007 (UTC)

Should Apple be credited as the developer of this software (not only in the sidebar but in the opening narrative), when its history states that it was developed by Macromedia? (I was tempted to make this edit, but realize that different criteria might be used in each instance.) MIchael 02:10, 27 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Time Remapping

Could someone please elaborate what time remapping exactly means and where you would use it (and preferably how it works). I think a new article would be the best here. THANKS -- Michael Janich 09:49, 15 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Films Edited with FCP Section

This list is starting to get a bit too long, and will only get longer. I've been bold and cut out the films which are pretty minor or maybe aren't so fantastic: Reno 911, Balls of Fury, The Comebacks, We are the Strange, Night of the Living Dead 3D and Hoot. And I think it could be cut down further.

I've also changed the title of this section to 'Selected Films Edited on FCP'. Given that more and more major films are being edited on FCP, perhaps films should only appear on this list when they're major or otherwise notable releases. JMalky (talk) 09:57, 12 May 2008 (UTC)