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Given the commercial failure of this band, do they merit more than a couple of lines (or an entry at all) on Wikipedia? This is basically Charlie Simpson's hobby. You could fill the Internet up with trivia like this!

The Gig in the Grand??? Really? A Wikipedia entry on a band playing a gig in a town in Scotland? This is so trivial it puts the "importance" of this band (if they are still even together) in perspective. I think the main article should be cut down to two or three lines, and the rest of the text could be used by the original writer in a Fightstar fanzine (if anyone wanted such a thing). This rubbish has no place in an encyclopedia.


... I think that this is devoid of information, unencylopædic, and obviously from a biased point of view.

. This new small article is much better.

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[edit] Fightstar Online

Does anyone know what happened to this site?

[edit] I agree

I have removed some lines of text that were clearly made by a fan. Adamshappy 09:43, 13 May 2006 (UTC)

There is a huge amount of biased rubbish on this page, which I will remove to reinstate the page to what wikipedia should be. If it gets changed back by the fool that wrote it or anyone similar, I'll make sure it's reverted. Hate this kind of opinionated rubbish anywhere, and it's made all the more hideous in a supposedly neutral encyclopaedia. --Flamealchemist 23:30, 15 May 2006 (UTC)


[edit] Pop!?

The genre is listed as "pop". I don't know what genre they are exactly, but they certainly aren't pop. Someone's confused these with Busted.

they are not pop at all im going to put them in rock, it can be refined as to what type of rock they are after--Childzy 20:56, 9 June 2006 (UTC)

I'm not sure what to do here but it looks like it's going to keep on being reverted back to pop, which is def not what they are Stev87 21:04, 10 June 2006 (UTC)

I've put a hidden message <!---Please see talk page in reference to genre---> in the article so if people keep changing it from now on they will be warned, it seems to me that it is malicious vandalism.--Childzy 15:15, 11 June 2006 (UTC)

Fightstar are pop. It's simple. Hazy Eyes is a pure pop song. Palahniuk's Laughter is a pop hook that tries to be heavy. Waste A Moment is pure pop. Grand Unification Part 1 is indie/pop/rock. Paint Your Target is a pop anthem. Build An Army is a fun pop song that kids tend to have fun listening to. Mono is an album filler that is put into the emotional pop genre. Lost Like Tears In The Rain is a pop/rock anthem. Simple, Fightstar have enough pop songs to be classified pop!

I Disagree, fightstar may have pop influenced hooks but they are too deep in the harder mainstream genre to be pop. Just because Charlie came from Busted doesn't necessary mean his new approach to music is the same. There is no way Fightstar have any similarity to a pop band like McFly. Build an Army is not a pop song, because of the guitar and Vocals this would catagorise it as post-hardcore even with some Metalcore style agressive vocals. S Club 7 it ain't. Paladin91 20:19, 2 September 2006 (UTC)

I would say emo/post hardcore or something... elevenzeroonechat / what i've done / email 19:51, 6 December 2006 (UTC)
First of all, emo is used in every situation for pop-punk bands elevenzeroone (in which emo is not the same as pop-punk) so you basically just contradicted yourself. Second, no, they are not pop; their songs have melody to them, but that does not make them pop. Lastly, a band doesn't have to be "post-hardcore" or "metalcore" just because they scream in like two or three songs. I think that they should be listed as the following for now:


Though I will admit their first album had post-hardcore material, so maybe I'll put it as their older material. But that's just what I think. -Preceding unsigned comment added by RaikiriChidori (talk) 17:48, 20 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Decision

Can someone decide on the genre of the band because it is a vital part of the article, thank you. Paladin91 20:43, 6 September 2006 (UTC)

I think we will leave it as progressive metal/alternative metal. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.203.146.98 (talk) 21:09, 4 January 2008 (UTC)

Google

Fightstar rock = 723,000[1]
Fightstar pop = 445,000[2]

All Music Guide

say rock [3]

So please stop changing the genre or you will be banned from editing--Childzy 16:54, 11 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Opinion

Rock/Metal in my opinion www.fightstar.com.spao.pt

—The preceding unsigned comment was added by 213.22.194.118 (talk) 13:56, 4 January 2007 (UTC).

[edit] COMMERCIAL Rock??

I feel it highly unnecessary to say they are "commercial" rock, simply "rock" will do. *edits*

[edit] Blatant POV

I can't say I particularly like Fightstar, but as far as I'm concerned the following line is blatantly someones POV. And more like what you would see in a gossip magazine:

"Initially, the band faced heavily deserved criticism, not as much as it could, and should have been, from much of the British music press, because of Simpson's past career." Also the genre says pop rock, when already "Rock" was decided on. Ronius 01:37, 11 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] its gotta be one of these

indies, punk, rock, or some of my friends say emo because the lyrics are very emotional. who cares though because whatever genre it is i still like their music. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 216.212.252.60 (talk) 00:09:02, August 20, 2007 (UTC)

well it is not they are progressive metal (due to varying tempos and time signatures) and alternative metal —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.203.146.98 (talk) 22:23, 22 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Fair use rationale for Image:Grand unification.jpg

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[edit] Metalcore?!

Come on guys, it's obvious that Fightstar are not metalcore. Post-hardcore is fine, but metalcore they are not. James25402 00:45, 9 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Revision on above topic

I believe i did not state that fightstar are a metalcore band, i merely stated that the song Build an Army has certain aspects of metalcore for example the harsh vocals. (quote from my statement above)" because of the guitar and Vocals this would catagorise it as post-hardcore even with some Metalcore *style* agressive vocals. S Club 7 it ain't." therefore i did not specifically say that fightstar were metalcore thankyou. Paladin91 21:06, 20 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Fair use rationale for Image:Fight star.jpg

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BetacommandBot (talk) 19:19, 22 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Progressive Metal?!?!

I have no idea who got the idea that they are progressive metal, but this is in incorrect classification. They are closer to alternative metal or post-hardcore. --80.168.174.52 (talk) 22:15, 20 January 2008 (UTC)

I removed it, and I'm more than willing to go into an edit war with anyone stupid enough to re-add it. You better have alot of citable reliable sources if you want that utter bull up there. PEiP (talk) 02:06, 24 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Images

Hello! Fair use images should not be placed in an article body unless there's critical commentary on th art work itself, I've left one because there's a reference to the Neon Genesis Evangelion influence but that is borderline itself. Album images should generally only be placed into their respective album articles. Please do not re-ad the images.. Rehevkor (talk) 14:27, 30 January 2008 (UTC)

Yeah, it's re-add the images. Still, fair use iamges aren't appropriate. 86.135.80.62 (talk) 13:44, 2 February 2008 (UTC)