Talk:Fight-or-flight response
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[edit] Plagiarism
The biological response part of the article is a copy-and-paste directly from the link at the bottom of the article, "http://www.surgeongeneral.gov/library/mentalhealth/chapter4/sec2_1.html", and does not attribute the text to that source.
- Thank you for your remark, it has been attributed now. However, it is not plagiarism, since it's a work of the US government, which makes it ineligible for copyright since it is in the public domain.--Steven Fruitsmaak (Reply) 16:46, 11 November 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Question
Could this article use a somewhat less scientific description of the phenomenon? While the neurochemistry of fight or flight is very interesting, it doesn't actually say anything about the decision between standing ground against a predator/aggressor and turning tail and running in an effort to escape.—Preceding unsigned comment added by 129.44.40.162 (talk • contribs) June 7, 2005
[edit] Third Option?
How can the 'deer-in-headlights' reaction be reconciled with this statement that there are only two options available under high stress or threat? Many accounts of persons thrown into battle mention 'freezing up,' and suggest that this is not a phenomenon strictly to be associated with deer.
69.138.6.85 04:20, 12 November 2005 (UTC)Ed Dodd
Can someone smart add on this page why people start to shake when they are in fight-or-flight condition? Janne92
not entirely sure or smart...but i'm guessing it's the epinephrine effect that would cause shaking...epinephrine effects alpha and beta1 and beta2 adrenergic receptors each of which cause physiological effects to the heart (increase rate- tachycardia), lungs (bronchiole dilation), and vessels (vasoconstriction). Hence why it is super-important when people have allergic reaction and take epipen...they must still go to hospital. Nizami 02:31, 9 March 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Revert
I reverted the page as an edit removed about a quarter of the article. I see no reason to remove it, so I put it back. If there is actually a reason to remove so much info, (such as inaccuracy, or whatever) please post that reason here as it is a large change to the article.
- I reverted it back past a couple of edits, the following text was replaced by "@OK" and other inanities...
- "once perceived, is relayed from the sensory cortex of the brain through the thalamus to the brain stem. That route of signaling increases the rate of noradrenergic activity in the locus ceruleus, and the person becomes alert and attentive to the environment. Similarly, an abundance of " Lou 05:07, 7 March 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Tend and Befriend
Taylor et al. have written an important paper on the difference in the stress response in males and females . Taylor SE, Cousino-Klein L, Lewis BP, Gruenewald TL, Gurung RAR, and Updegraff JA: Biobehavioral responses to stress in females: Tend-and-befriend, not fight-or-flight. Psychological Review 107 (3): 411-429, 2000.
[edit] Overhaul
I've done a major re-write using a psych textbook as a reference. I've tried to fuse the original with my additions. I also added a references section for mine and the previous writer's refs. This rewrite also addresses the idea of a third option. Hope everyone who cares likes this. Please add a reference to the list if you're changing it, as I went to some trouble to properly document these. Enjoy... Irayna 08:16, 5 August 2006 (UTC)irayna
[edit] Wondering about genetic marker for this response
It has been pointed out that there are a variety of options under both the flight response and the fight response [deer in headlight and camouflage]. This led me to the question of whether the response could be more simply stated as "go" or "stay" when confronted by stress. Since the response, whatever we call it, is common among many/most species, it would appear to be very primal on a genetic scale. Consider that it might be the direct result of the "punctuated equilibrium" [Gould - Alvarez] event that re-ordered life on Earth 65,000,000 years BP. And impact of such magnitude would have only allowed two "responses" among survivors. Stay put because you had no choice OR get thrown wildly about in a tumult of epic proportion until you finally latched onto something or landed in a safe place. The experience would certainly have effected all species and might offer a genetic pointer as to when the "flight or fight" [go or stay] response initiated. Bobkiger 15:30, 3 December 2007 (UTC)Bob Kiger
[edit] Freeze
Somebody may wish to add a paragraph about “Freeze”. Many modern theorists believe that Fight/Flight/Freeze is the more accurate dichotomy of this instinctive response. It’s seen in animals and people all the time. The best example is the dear in headlights or the possum “playing possum” (feigning death). Many people and animals when confronted by a threat like an intimidating dog will instinctively stop moving hoping not to the attract the attention of the threat, then eventually SLOWLY moving away. Jeff Vollmer LCPC, 5/2/98 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.141.199.148 (talk) 17:08, 2 May 2008 (UTC)