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[edit] Jeringozo

It is not on the DRAE... but it is the word people use.

"Jeringonza" is the word people use. A Google Fight confirms that. --Fibonacci 22:14, 18 July 2006 (UTC)

Jeringonza... I am from Buenos Aires, I am 43 now, and I have never heard it pronounced that way...

I've lived in Colombia for more than 16 years, and have never heard "jeringozo". Mostly "jeringonza" and the occasional "jeringonzo". --Fibonacci 22:14, 18 July 2006 (UTC)

I would not give DRAE authority over Argentine slang when (you can be sure that) every Argentine reference you can contact will tell you otherwise... elpincha 19:25, 18 July 2006 (UTC)

I would not give Argentine slang authority over DRAE when (you can be sure that) jeringonza is spoken all over Latin America, not only in Argentina. --Fibonacci 22:14, 18 July 2006 (UTC)
I am not reverting. Just passed by here again to note that jeringonza means many different things... the second article on Google (where I lost the "fight") is this, and I would exclude this result from a "fair" fight. To me, it is obvious that the Argentine usage was far more prevalent than the Colombian usage, and I'd even venture that Colombians got the name from Argentine movies. Since this cannot be proved, I defer to your changes. Cambio y fuera. elpincha 01:53, 19 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Uniform tiling images

Hi, I appreciate the SVG replacements for my GIF tiling images. I'm not sure how you do the conversion. I'm interested in showing the 32 uniform colorings for the 11 uniform tilings, and don't want to keep uploading inferior images. I'm wondering if you could help? I uploaded temporary image from a book, showing he 32 patterns: Image:Uniform_tile_colorings_draft.png Tom Ruen 01:26, 7 August 2006 (UTC)

Hi, I appreciate the SVG replacements for my GIF tiling images. I'm not sure how you do the conversion.

Erm... manually? I do most of my SVG coding by hand, but Inkscape or Sodipodi could help a lot. You would still have to redraw the polygons by hand, though. --Fibonacci 06:53, 7 August 2006 (UTC)

I'm interested in showing the 32 uniform colorings for the 11 uniform tilings, and don't want to keep uploading inferior images. I'm wondering if you could help?

Sure. I'll start classes tomorrow so I'll probably be a bit busy, but sure I can help. --Fibonacci 06:53, 7 August 2006 (UTC)

I uploaded temporary image from a book, showing he 32 patterns: Image:Uniform_tile_colorings_draft.png Tom Ruen 01:26, 7 August 2006 (UTC)

Downloaded. But could you please explain me a bit about those colourings? I don't think the image is clear enough by itself. --Fibonacci 06:53, 7 August 2006 (UTC)
Thanks! The colors are unimportant. The pictures are grayscale, so a bit hard to see some maybe. The label shows a code, like 121212 means alternating two colors at a vertex. Or 1111 means one color, and 1234 mean four different colors around a vertex. Does that help? Tom Ruen 07:11, 7 August 2006 (UTC)
I think I do understand. You want me to do an image like this, only with all the possible colourings? --Fibonacci 03:30, 9 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Free Software

Greetings: Hace tiempo le solicité un favor acerca de una declaración en favor del software libre. Enviemelo por mi correo. ¿está bien? Chao y aquí le incluyo un otaku nuevo en la wikipedia. --Oscarín Aino 18:33, 8 August 2006 (UTC)

Uyyy, qué pena con sumercé, a mí se me había olvidado eso, en estos días se la escribo. ¿Más o menos cómo la quiere? --Fibonacci 03:34, 9 August 2006 (UTC)


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[edit] BIP

The group does not appear to be notable enough for their own article; in any event, if they were, the proper title would be something like "BIP (band)". —tregoweth (talk) 21:34, 13 September 2006 (UTC)

Per speedy deletion criteria, the article about BIP was deleteable as "an article about a real person, group of people, band, or club that does not assert the importance or significance of its subject." But, per your request, I have re-created your article at BIP (band), and am about to submit it to AfD. —tregoweth (talk) 21:47, 13 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Uniandes

Hola... anch'io sono Uniandino e milanese di sangue. Magari un giorno ci possiamo trovare all'universitá (mar-san1). Tanti saluti. User:Nozebacle

Ciao, Nozebacle, e benvenuto su Wikipedia! Credevo di essere l'unico Wikipediano Uniandino. Me gustaría encontrarme en la universidad con usted, no es sino que diga cuándo le queda bien. Saluti, --Fibonacci 17:20, 6 October 2006 (UTC)


[edit] Qué más compatriota?

Hola Caleiva le escribo para pedirle que me ayude a pulir unos artículos relacionados con Cúcuta que traduje mediante Google de la Wikipedia en Español.

Ayudame con lo que puedas...

Los artículos en cuestión son los siguientes:

Muchas gracias!

--Ricardoramirezj 13:02, 15 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Dealers den

Hello, I saw you were helping Argox with his Spanish translation of the article furry convention. While reading (and correcting) the translation, I came across an ambiguous phrase which could be translated to Spanish in two ways with different meanings:

(...) a Dealers Den where art and comic book distributors and other merchants can sell their wares for a fee

So, does it mean that the merchants have to pay a fee to be allowed to sell, or that (as is usually the case) it's the merchants who charge a fee to the buyers?

Thanks in advance for your help, --Fibonacci 11:31, 2 December 2006 (UTC)

You have found a phrase that could be explained better in the article. In fact, both meanings are implied here. The Dealers Den is a place where dealers (either professional artists with lots of prints or framed works, or dealers of other people's art/comics/books/T-shirts/plush toys/fashion accessories) may rent a table from the convention, for a price - at Anthrocon, anywhere from $75 for half a table (3 foot by 3 foot) to $525 for a square island (10 foot by 10 foot) [1]. They may then sell to the people who attend the convention.
This contrasts with the Artists' Alley, which usually does not charge artists for space to sell - however, the space is much smaller (see the pictures in the article to compare), there is no guarantee that they will get it if there are too many people (some conventions are starting to sell small badges to get a good place for $10-$20), they must remain there most of the time to keep their place, and they must only sell their own work.
Thank you for assisting Argox with the translation, and for your work against vandalism of the article. GreenReaper 23:19, 2 December 2006 (UTC)
Well, since the second meaning is implied by default, I finally decided to translate only the first one to Spanish. Thank you for your help. --Fibonacci 18:43, 3 December 2006 (UTC)

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Ah. Cool, thanks a lot for passing that on. —Chowbok ☠ 16:22, 19 December 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Pena de muerte en Colombia

Vi que quitó a Colombia de la lista de paises que no usan la pena de muerte de User:Nightstallion/death penalty. El artículo 11 de la constitucion afirma: «El derecho a la vida es inviolable. No habrá pena de muerte». No hay pena de muerte en Colombia, o me equivoco? --– sampi (talk•contrib•email) 19:54, 4 February 2007 (UTC)

Estoy cofundido, hay varias partes de la lista. Una parte es de los paises que han abolido la pena de muerte, otra es de los paises en las que es legal y no la usan, y la ultima es paises en que es legal y la usan. Yo agregué a Colombia a la lista de paises donde la pena ha sido abolida. Talvez no entendí bien la lista, ¿se supone que los paises que no aplican la pena de muerte para nada no deben estar?--– sampi (talk•contrib•email) 20:07, 4 February 2007 (UTC)

Ah bueno, muchas gracias, perdon haberlo molestado. --– sampi (talk•contrib•email) 20:18, 4 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Flag of the Department of Santander

Of course i would be happy to explain, The Flag of Santander was officially changed on September 1, 2006, by means of the Decree 254 of 2006 which states in Article 1 that "Modificar el artículo segundo del decreto 579 de 1972, en lo pertinente a las estrellas, el cual quedará así: LAS ESTRELLAS de plata son representación de los ocho (8) Núcleos de Desarrollo Provincial del Departamento de Santander."

This information IS in the Governorship site you just have to look a lil closer, at the bottom of this page in the section that says "Archivos a Descargar" you can find the link to download this Decree "Decreto254_2006_Bandera" and you will see for yourself, and even though some images in the same overnorship page still have the 6 stas, there are also some others that now show the 8 stars, and actually, i just noticed that the Coat of arms of the Department of Santander has also changed, before it had six argent stars in a border field of gules on the upper part of the shield, but now it has eight, however, there is no Decree or explanation to support this fact, all i know is that the governorship now shows a shield with 8, which makes sense since if they changed the flag for the same reasons why not the COA. Should the coat of arms be changed?

As for FOTW, i cannot speak for them, nor i think the Department of Santander was thinking of contancting the site to change its symbols, and the site is not always 100% accurate.

Hope to have cleared any doubts. mijotoba 15:34, 26 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Hello Wikipedian...

You have been chosen by User:Trampton to be a greeted victim!Best Regards from me and to your family also,hope you are having a great time at Wikipedia!Trampton 11:01, 1 March 2007 (UTC).

[edit] es:Colombia Británica/es:Columbia Británica

Interesting; I"m from BC of course and I'm half-fluent in Spanish; in French of course it's colombie-brittannique (I never get how many t's and n's right) and I also speak some French (I'm 1/8 but learned it on my own). Why it's interesting, knowing the history in my area and the provenance of the name - via the Columbia District and its partition in 1846 - is that the name derives, via the river, from the ship, which was named after the "poetic name" for the US, Columbia (as in "Hail, Columbia!" and District of Columbia, of course]. Obviously the Spanish legacy concerning hte name follows the same pattern as how it came to be in English, i.e. derived from the river/ship; both of which in french are "Columbia", and the point of BC is it's the British sector of Columbia; some of our historians have referred to south of 49 as "Southern Columbia" (in the course of bewailing its loss). Hmmm...not that it's going to change anyone in Quebec's or France's mind about it, but it's interesting to know that Spanish has the proper form of the name, and doesn't impose a hispanicism on the name the way French has; despite, again, that french gets the name of the river right. The clincher will be, and I'm not sure, what the French name for the Columbia District is; the sense of that is "the district of the Columbia River" - how odd if it's la fleuve Columbia but le departement de la colombie - I think the HBC district-name in French might have been departement de Columbia (haven't fond a French usage of it yet; there's no Wiki article on the Columbia District) but certainly if it was, then Columbia-brittanique SHOULD be the right form. Its Spanish equivalent apparently is in that language; but colombie-brittanique is so entrenched in French, particularly Canadian French, that despite the obvious error there's no hope of ever changing their minds. Oh well.....just FYI and as a side-comment on your edit.....Skookum1 19:51, 21 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Moiré

Now that you've got that figure as an svg, it should be easy to fix to show the pattern better. It will show up best when the lines are about 50% duty cycle; i.e. line width equal to space. Dicklyon 23:31, 22 April 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] User:Flavio.brandani

Would you be interested in mentoring this errant Wikipedian? - UtherSRG (talk) 17:00, 21 May 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Template:NFPA 704

Fib, those digits aren't centred in my Firefox browser. --  Denelson83  05:25, 23 June 2007 (UTC)

Yes, I do use the Monobook skin when browsing Wikipedia, and no, it seems I don't know how to fix it in Firefox/Monobook. Maybe take the problem to the general community and see what it comes up with? --  Denelson83  22:16, 24 June 2007 (UTC)
Go for it. --  Denelson83  22:54, 24 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Image copyright problem with Image:Wales_FA.png

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The original uploader of the image was User:Dryazan, so you should ask them instead - I only converted it to PNG. --Fibonacci 20:41, 26 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Koch curve images

Hi Fibonacci

I've been looking for scalable images of the Koch curve and the Koch snowlfake and found yours on Wikipedia. They're great, my machine wont download them, maybe because of the file type? I wondered if you could maybe supply them as vector EPS files? Then I'm sure I could open them on my Mac using Illustrator...that would be fantastic! Thanks

Samantha Samajclark 13:27, 29 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] KRAKEN (BAND)

Porq dices q Elkin ramirez no es integrante inicial de kraken? si el fue el que la fundo.--Mackbeth24 01:06, 5 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Sumapaz

Por que redirigio Sumapaz (Bogotá)? Sumapaz Province existe y falta el area geografica de El Sumapaz que abarca ambas areas y en departamentos aledaños.. --F3rn4nd0 (Roger - Out) 04:14, 10 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Hasse diagram

I am very angry. You made an SVG version of my image, Image:Hasse diagram of powerset of 3.png, with no reference to my original. Its licensing provisions forbid that:

"In short: you are free to share and make derivative works of the file under the conditions that you appropriately attribute it, and that you distribute it only under a license identical to this one."

Either comply with the license (including its demand for an identical license on your image) or delete your image and all uses of it immediately. --KSmrqT 15:15, 24 July 2007 (UTC)

Rather than wait to see if you will comply, I have replaced your SVG with my original, as produced by dot. In future, please be careful to honor license agreements. --KSmrqT 17:35, 24 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Bogotá enclave

According to the maps on the Bogotá, Capital District page, the Capital District is not an enclave of Cundinamarca Department. Are these maps incorrect? --Lasunncty 16:02, 27 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] WikiProject Furry

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[edit] Redirect of PySoulseek (software)

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[edit] Radiation Symbol images

On Commons, you contributed a magenta radiation warning symbol Image:radiation warning symbol-US.svg, which amazingly enough, is something less than 500 bytes. Then someone had the one for black on yellow, which you substituted another one, and while theirs was 5K, yours was again only about 412 bytes. However, yours was black with no background rather than black on yellow, so they reverted it. I took your symbol, put a yellow square behind it, and it comes up 2 1/2K. I looked at the file in Wordpad (fortunately SVG images are text rather than binary) and discovered Inkscape adds a lot of metadata which isn't really necessary for interpreting the image (or at least it isn't in this case), so I cut and pasted the rectangle as text from one to the other, and I come up with one that's 720 bytes, which is amazing, so I have replaced the previous one which was 5K. I have also re-uploaded the one you did so that it is also available by itself.

I have to admit that I was unaware of how much power the SVG specification has in terms of making images that can be much smaller (due to the capability for an image to replicate and rotate part of itself.) I like SVG for its capacity to automatically resize as the image is shrunk or expanded, but I didn't realize how really versatile it is, or how a master of the specification such as your self can do amazing things with it. Paul Robinson (Rfc1394) 23:57, 1 December 2007 (UTC)

The "useless metadata" (that is, useless for every program except Inkscape and perhaps Sodipodi) is one of the reasons I rarely use Inkscape, and code most of my SVG files by hand. If you want to learn more about the specification, I suggest reading http://www.w3.org/TR/SVG/ (not the whole contents, of course, but only the parts you want to use).
Thank you for your message. --Fibonacci 09:16, 2 December 2007 (UTC)

You're a better man than I am, Fib! (Shades of Gunga Din). I like the idea and I might do some work like perhaps editing a file by hand and stripping unnecessary metadata but I don't have the math background to be able to do something like that! I couldn't even visualize how one does something like what you did or know how to get it properly inside the bounding box, and so on; I'd have to use a drawing program, at least to know what the commands need to be. Which fortunately the SVG file format, being plain text, gives us the capability to do things like that.

I have gone through and replaced another image which was identical to your black one only changing the color from black to a shade of orange, and the file size drops from 5K to less than ½K. If you look at the metadata stored by Commons concerning who created or replaced a file, it is interesting that the original image goes from 5K to 2K on my first pass, then down so low that I don't think it's possible to do better than that.

What I think, for persons such as myself that I might use something like Inkscape to create an image and perhaps then optimize it by hand (similar to the way people hand-optimized programs before compilers got a whole lot better.) Or perhaps make suggestions to the programmers who wrote it or look at the code to see about adding access to additional features. Programs like that, and a new one I'm trying Blender, have a steep to very steep learning curve, but once you can figure out how to use them, they can provide some amazing features. But they really need work on the user interface, they're often puzzling to figure out.

There are three other images that I either want to convert from JPG (using the trace function in Inkscape) or if already as SVG, try to do a reduction on similar to what you have done, and see what I can do to make them smaller, basically as an intellectual exercise. I am going to look at the specification (which I have downloaded) because one of the things I am interested in is the replication feature (I think the XML keyword is "use" which allows a portion of the image to be duplicated somewhere else; this might be useful in some constructs.)

I mean, seriously, the practice of making these images smaller, it's the sort of thing that is fun to do to show one's prowess and capability, but, for most things hand-tuning is probably overkill. Yes, trimming an image size by 90%, still leaving it editable and not changing its appearance is a good idea, but it's not like I'm going to notice the difference. Let's see, my main hard drive has 39 GB free of 180GB. The secondary external drive I have (to transfer files between computers and to store backup files like copies of my MP3s) has 185GB free out of 275GB. (Obviously, you can tell, I collect a lot of crap!) In my case, It's not like I need the space, and files generally take a minimum of 4K anyway.

There are, however, benefits if we continue to consider about using resources responsibly, say in the case of programmers (of which I have been one for 25 years): faster load times, smaller programs, and perhaps a better experience for the user.

So, maybe it isn't technically necessary to fight for that extra byte (or rather, to get rid of the extra byte!) But, as I pointed out, it's still a badge of honor to show how really technically proficient one can be, in ways that other people probably can't even imagine and might not even understand why it is something some people think about, and are proud of. Paul Robinson (Rfc1394) 15:43, 2 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Orphaned non-free media (Image:Letflag.png)

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[edit] Disputed fair use rationale for Image:Recycle-resin-logos-lr 01.png

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