Talk:Fiachnae mac Báetáin

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I am interested in the reference that "Fiachnae's predecessor according to the genealogies was his great-uncle Áed Dub mac Suibni". Are there any citations for that?

For Áed to be a grand-uncle of Fiachnae Lurgan, they would both need to share a common ancestor: Aed's father. Áed's father is given as Suibni.

As far as I can make out, the likely genealogy of Fiachna Lurgan of Dal nAraide would be as follows: Fiachna m. Baetan m. Eochaid m. Condla

My construct from online genealogies for Áed would be: Aed m. Suibni m. Colman Mor m. Diarmait m. Fergus Cerrbel m. Conall Cremthaine m. Niall (9 hostages).

I understand that these genealogies are likely to be highly doubtful. Given that Áed is supposed to have killed Diarmait mac Cerrbel (theoretically his great-grandfather), it seems if the Áed lineage is particularly doubtful. But, given that all accounts are consistent regards Áed's father being Suibni, I cannot see how his line would tie in with the Fiachna Lurgan line.

Karl Craig 05:21, 16 March 2007 (UTC)

Sorry for the delay in replying. Great-uncle is wrong right enough. Frank Byrne's Irish Kings shows the ancestry of Fiachnae and Áed on table 7, p. 287. It gives Fiachnae son of Báetán son of Eochaid son of Condlae son of Cólub son of Crond Ba Druí, and Áed son of Suibne Araide [son of ? ...] son of Crond Ba Druí. First cousins twice removed? Cousins! Angus McLellan (Talk) 13:16, 8 June 2007 (UTC)