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[edit] Clarify and distinguish FAS and FASD
The importance of having both this and the Fetal Alcohol Spectrum Disorder articles has been clearly articulated on Talk:Fetal Alcohol Spectrum Disorder. We'll be working on pruning and editing this article to improve it and separate it from the FASD article to have appropriate cross referencing, conformity to Wiki standards, and so forth, while paying attention to the importance of diagnostic versus functional similarities. Here's to a lot of great work to come, MLHarris 03:32, 15 March 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Correcting GA
Fetal alcohol syndrome was awarded GA on August 10, 2006,[1] by GoOdCoNtEnT (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · page moves · block user · block log), who was subsequently blocked. Fetal alcohol syndrome was moved to an inaccurate article title—Fetal Alcohol Spectrum Disorder— on January 12, 2007. [2]. The talk page, and GA, was also moved. Per discussion at Talk:Fetal Alcohol Spectrum Disorder, the correct name of the medical condition is Fetal alcohol syndrome. I am restoring the GA to the article upon which it was conferred. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 16:58, 8 April 2007 (UTC)
- I would also like to request that, since this appears to of just been some complicated misunderstanding about article titles, that nobody fail this article straight off of the GA page for the time being, it seemed pretty good at the time it was passed, even though it is of course now very unstable with everything being moved about. Homestarmy 17:01, 8 April 2007 (UTC)
- Actually, it's not unstable at all. Everything has been consensual so far. The discussion has been over how to fix this grand mess that was made by a faulty move. We're trying to get it right; not really unstable at all. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 17:07, 8 April 2007 (UTC)
- Well, then I ultra don't support anyone delisting this article based on the mess of page moves :) . Homestarmy 17:24, 8 April 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Ready for copy edit
I think I've now removed most of the traces of FASD from the article, although I'm not clear how to eliminate the four diagnostic systems that aren't recognized. Once that is done, the next step might be to copyedit the article in order to prosify the overuse of the terms i.e., e.g., and etc. All of those abbreviations need to be converted to prose. Some attention to wikilinking may also be needed, per WP:CONTEXT. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 05:20, 11 April 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Diagnostic systems and related items
Wow... lots of great work, and yet as I read it over, I struggle with the basic conceptualization of FAS as it relates to FASD and how to describe it in a way that incorporates good Wikipedia editing processes and still maintains accuracy and completeness. I think I have hit upon a metaphor with diabetes and pre-diabetes. The conditions are different but related and some aspects of each are the same (and perhaps should have their own article status). In this case, pre-diabetes typically precedes type 2 diabetes, but it is still a diabetic-related condition. A symptom of both is high blood sugar levels, and the same test (diagnostic procedure) is used for both--there isn't a separate test for diabetes and pre-diabetes, and yet diabetes requires more symptoms or more severe symptoms. The same is true of FAS and other FASD conditions (FAS is an FASD condition)--the same diagnostic systems are used to operationalize the (rather vague) ICD criteria of FAS; that which is not FAS is another condition (with no ICD diagnosis), but they are all a Fetal Alcohol Spectrum Disorder (FAS, PFAS, ARND, and the older terms FAE and ARBD)--just like diabetes and pre-diabetes are diabetic-type conditions (or, at the least, high blood sugar conditions). All four diagnostic systems diagnose FAS, but they also "diagnose" other conditions. The same is true of outcomes and treatment: The disabilities are the same--there is a range, of course, but someone with ARND (read, FASD) can have just as severe disabilities or worse as someone with FAS, just without the facial features or growth deficiencies. This also means the treatment strategy is the same for FAS as for other FASD conditions--the specifics are tailored to the individual differences/disabilities based on the functional problems that arise in each case. It isn't simply a matter of pruning a reference from either article because the condition is not in the title. A good example is Streisguth's book, titled "Fetal Alcohol Syndrome"--despite the title, the content of the book includes a lot of material on FAE (read, ARND in today's terms, and still an FASD condition based on 2004 terminology referenced in the IOM diagnostic document)--the title may say FAS, but FAE (and therefore FASD) information is in it, too. This is a strong challenge in general... explaining the condition in simplest terms--the field isn't there yet, but it is progressing. I think a possible way to address the commonalities between the FAS article and the FASD article is by having summaries and supporting articles on the diagnostic systems, outcomes, and treatment. The article as it is now is getting to be very much technically in shape and is certainly not inaccurate, but it is also less complete by having virtually no mention of FASD (the same is true of the FASD article to a greater degree). I hope this makes sense, as I am rushed to go to work, and I am truly sorry that I don't have long stretches of time to be more involved, but we'll get it soon enough. Thanks, MLHarris 14:01, 11 April 2007 (UTC)
- I'm rushing out for the day as well, ML; will get back on this tonight. Best, SandyGeorgia (Talk) 14:05, 11 April 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Alfred E. Neuman
Does Alfred E. Neuman, the mascot of Mad magazine, manifest physical characteristics typical of Fetal Alcohol Syndrome? Will someone familiar FAS please add the appropriate material to this article, and to the article on Alfred E. Neuman. Josh-Levin@ieee.org 14:06, 14 August 2007 (UTC)
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