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[edit] Duplicate images uploaded

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[edit] Mapas de la Tranvia del Este

Que buenas! Gracias. -steventity (talk) 02:20, 22 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Buenos Aires-Rosario-Córdoba high-speed railway

Hey Fercho85, how you doing, here Moebiusuibeom-en, in regards to Buenos Aires-Rosario-Córdoba high-speed railway, why did you remove Cañada de Gómez station and link, please note that "stations are speculative", it's most likely this station will be included as preliminarie plans indicate, Cañada de Gómez has always been a very important nucleus towards Carlos Pellegrini and all southern central fertile plains of the province of Santa Fé, if you need further information feel free to contact me, meanwhile, i have reversed said change – Moebiusuibeom-en (talk) 04:58, 22 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Puero Madero Tramway

Fercho85; excelente colaboración que hicistes en Tranvía del Este y Tram | South America, Argentina, y las fotos esta extraordinarias, muy bien – Moebiusuibeom-en (talk) 03:22, 25 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Puerto Madero

Fercho85, agregue una de tus fotos a Puerto Madero sin consultar, espero estes de acuerdo, yo no soy el de saturar articulos con info no apropiada pero para que PM se encaje y sobreponga entre los mejores, creo que no hay problema. Ahora para balancear tenemos que remplazar una de las imagenes de los rascacielos por una de las arterias de PM lleno de gente y bullicio, –, ¡avisame que te parece! Moebiusuibeom-en (talk) 03:02, 26 January 2008 (UTC)

Re: Fotos – como andas.. quedaron re bien las fotos en el articulo de puerto madero, estaba pensando la idea de poner una galeria porque tengo un toco de fotos mas para publicar ¿que te parece?..Si te interesan fotos de transporte o edificios avisáme porque a mi tambien como te dije tengo un toco de fotos... Fercho85 04:18, 26 January 2008 (UTC)
Aqui Moebiusuibeom, sos un muy buen fotógrafo, sobre Puerto Madero la Galeria esta interesante pero tambien debemos crear un balance, lo ideal seria crear mini galerias, digamos unas 4 fotos en diferentes articulos, Tambien esta el articulo de Buenos Aires, tiene Galeria y hay espacio para varias, en Wikimedia Commons hay tambien una colexion Buenos Aires, lo que debemos hacer es mejorar articulos articulos existentes aunque sean stubs agregandosle por lo menos una imagen y algun copy adicional, de inmediato me facinaria mejorar la sección New high-rise towers. Tambien lo que si hace falta es una Galeria de fotos para el Tren de la Costa que bien se lo merece y el Tranvia de Caballito. En otros temas recuerda escribir en la parte de abajo y agregar el username: Moebiusuibeom-en (talk) 15:26, 26 January 2008 (UTC) ¡¡Saludos!!

[edit] January 2008

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[edit] ARGENTINA

Hey Fercho85, no offense, because i want Argentina to be repositioned as a was a good article nominee

I enhanced «image wise» the Layout of Article, witch suffered from

  • overcrowding and clutter of images
  • side by side images
  • sections with unrelated images
  • unbalanced layout
  • inconsistent sizing of images and
  • broken up sections

A proposito Fercho85, la excelente imagen del tranvia y tus fotografias te las he halagado anteriormente pero no refleja la Argentina actual ya que es solo 2 km y el sistema tranviriario no esta desparramado por toda la ciudad contrario a lo que refleja la imagen - Saludos – Moebiusuibeom-en (talk) 18:19, 1 February 2008 (UTC)


[edit] Dime

¿Podrías decirme a qué se debe este insulto? --the Dúnadan 23:07, 28 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] White people

thanks for your note. I think this is more a content dispute. Engage the other editor in dialogue on his talk page and the article talk page(s). If you cannot reach a consensus, then please follow the steps at WP:Dispute resolution. Cheers, Dlohcierekim Deleted? 05:14, 9 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Your recent edits

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[edit] Please stop vandalizing

I would have to ask you to please stop vandalizing the articles related to Argentine demographics. You are deleting paragraphs with reliable and verified sources claiming that to say that there are Amerindians in Argentine's ancestry is "racist". Please read WP:CITE, WP:NPOV and WP:OR. You must provide a reliable source that claims that a research conducted by the University of Buenos Aires and endorsed by the Ministry of Education, Science and Technology of the Argentine Government is racist. If you insist in reverting without complying with Wikipedia's policies, I would call the attention of an administrator. --the Dúnadan 15:50, 9 February 2008 (UTC)

There are several things I would like to mention:
  • Since you are new, I strongly recommend that you read the policies and guidelines of Wikipedia, most importantly WP:NPOV, WP:Verifiability and WP:NOR.
  • I have provided a more complete and comprehensive review of Argentine demographics, fully compliant with the aforementioned policies. Neither you or any user can delete sourced content without a reason, especially not by unilaterally calling the fully verifiable sources—endorsed by the Government of Argentina—"racist" sources.
  • If you have an objection to the inclusion of the sourced material, do not revert it. Present your arguments and your sources (which must be reputable and verifiable). If there are several fully qualified POVs, backed up with sources, then all POVs must be presented in the article.
  • Last but not least, I am still waiting for an explanation for your uncalled-for vandalizing of my user page.
--the Dúnadan 21:01, 9 February 2008 (UTC)


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[edit] ARGENTINA

Hey Fercho85, como estas! En referencia al mensaje de arriba que te dirigi el 1 de febrero sobre las alteraciones que hicistes en la página de ARGENTINA, sección: Transportation, sobre tu pregunta: Why did you change all the images? it was ok the way it was, ¿¿como lo arreglamos??, y plise, dame la oportunidad de organizar la misma – Moebiusuibeom-en (talk) 00:47, 16 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Tranvía del Este

¿Que paso con el excelente mapa (TDESTE4.jpg) que colocastes en Tranvía del Este? Moebiusuibeom-en (talk) 00:57, 16 February 2008 (UTC)

RE:-Hola como andas.. perdona no te contestaba porque estaba de vacaciones..:s con respecto a lo del articulo en ingles de transporte quisiera saber si te parece poner en vez del tranvia un tren de TBA? esta bien la verdad que el tram no representa ni en joda al transporte de BA pero que querias que agrege una imagen del San Martin..? Despues estaba pensando de sacar el barquito ese y poner el tram que te parece?.Ah y lo ultimo..me borraron la imagen del mapa del tranvia no se porque, asi por que si creo que es por la licencia o algo igual la subo de nuevo pero decime que tengo que ponerle..bueno un abrazo salu2 Fercho85


En ARGENTINA
El Tranvia del Este saquesmoslo que no representa Argentina, ademas hay un link (no queremos tanta redundancia):
Main article: Transportation in Argentina donde esta el Tram bien puestito
Lo del TBA me parece excelente, pero acordate de que no podemos enfacitar mucho a Baires en un articulo de ARGENTINA, si queres ponelo pero dame la oportunidad ajustar las imagenes para crear un balance visual harmónico, (soy diseñador), si no esta apropiado ahi y la foto esta buena, la colocamos en otro sitio!
De la imagen del San Martin no me vengas con malas que a ese tren lo use muchisimo y que a proposito ahora lo estan arreglando poco a poco. Además es historico porque era el Ferrocarril al Pacífico; grandeza que algun dia posiblemente vuelva a tener.
La idea es presentar una ARGENTINA lo más real y al mismo tiempo, atractiva posible, yo tengo una imagen de una estación del San Martin aqui: Ciudad Jardín Lomas del Palomar
El barquito del Rio Paraná es primordial ya que representa las Exportaciones y Economia de la nación y que este renglon se esta fortaleciendo fuertemente como deve ser, especialmente desde Rosario y todo con lo de Mercosur y hasta con lo del Tren de Alta Velocidad, esta todo entrelasado, que el barquito se ve mediocre, de acuerdo, hay que conseguir otra imagen de calidad. (Ojo; el barquito podria esta cargado de Soya con rumbo a China, y los Chinos compran en cantidad y nosotros enriquesiendosnos y ademas ellos podrian esta wikipediando y leyendo Artículo y de golpe quieran invertir en nuestra querida patria asi como un puerto más grande o reestablecer las vias ferreas hacia el campo pa' que le enviemos más Soya, jaja)
PUERTO MADERO
(Hice cambio) En Puerto Madero ubique una de tus imagenes del Tram más panoramicas, donde se ve los alrededores de Puerto madero y de ahi un link al Tranvia del Este con la otra imagen de primer plano, "Panoramica a primer plano" esto crea interes, menos monotonia, variedad y más impacto. (espero estes de acuerdo)
MAPA: recuerda que toda imagen debe ser usada con los permisos del autor, yo hago mapas, podria desarrollar uno? los permisos por lo general te los dan fotografos individuales por ejemplo los que publican en Flickr, lo único que tenes que hacer en mandarle una "linda" carta y explicar como se va a usar y que ellos te aprueben
Salu2 • Moebiusuibeom-en (talk) 19:53, 16 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Colectivo

Fercho85; ¿¿Porque quitastes la imagen del Colectivo que puse en el articulo de Buenos Aires??, me tome el tiempo, escribi sobre el Colectivo que estaba inexistente, coloque la imagen, puse los links al la página de Colectivo pero no, la cambiastes por una foto que esta en todos lados, ya te lo dije anteriormente, variedad es bueno, ahora tenemos el mismo colectivo en el articulo de Baires, y cuando haces el Link hacia Colectivo ahi esta nuevamente, y se repite por otros lados, ya te explique arriva sobre la redundancia. Ademas cada vez que hago algo vas y lo cambias, yo siempre me he comunicado contigo sobre los cambios, trabajemos en conjunto! , y en otras, muy bien por el mapa del Tranvía del Este ~ Moebiusuibeom-en (talk) 20:16, 19 February 2008 (UTC)

-che perdona.. no sabia que vos habias puesto la imagen del bondi de ser asi no la hubiese sacado..(va ni me fije en historial) lo que paso es que pense que la foto estaba hace mucho tiempo y dije bue la saco pero no, no pienses que voy ahi por la vida cambiando imagenes y aparte que ya arreglamos de modificar fotos de articulos juntos..Salu2
PD:cuando termine de subir todas las fotos arreglamos para la seccion de transporte..
Fercho85 08:13, 19 February 2008 (UTC)
Ningun problema flaco, tiene la parejita en frente con la moto, tiene character. ~ Moebiusuibeom-en (talk) 03:50, 20 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] TAVe

Estimado amigo, el articulo "Buenos Aires-Rosario-Córdoba high-speed railway" no tiene nada que ver con la linea TAVe Mar del Plata asi que parafrase tu valiosa informacion en una sección aparte dentro del articulo: "The Mar del Plata connection", Saludos ~ Moebiusuibeom-en (talk) 23:05, 6 March 2008 (UTC)

Si tenes razon yo no me di cuenta.. y agrege como si fuera toda una sola linea..que bien que te diste cuenta si no yo ya metia que iba de cordoba a mar del plata. Un Abrazo Fercho85 04:18, 10 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Italian settlement in Argentina

Gracias por poner mas información in el articulo "Italian settlement in Argentina". La información es muy buena. Lehoiberri (talk) 19:38, 7 March 2008 (UTC)

The Cuisine Section is excellent, keep up the good work ~ Moebiusuibeom-en (talk) 00:20, 24 March 2008 (UTC)
Agreed- nice work. Interested in creating a similar page for Uruguay? There will probably be a lot of repetition, but the political and social backgrounds will undoubtedly be different. Dionix (talk) 19:21, 29 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Villa General Belgrano

Hey Fercho85, copy edits by "newcomer" 67.224.161.28 looked fine to me, will adjust them somewhat, cheers ~ Moebiusuibeom-en (talk) 00:16, 16 March 2008 (UTC)


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[edit] Demographics of Argentina

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The article was vandalised only by you

Fercho85 (talk) 22:19, 2 April 2008 (UTC)

== April 2008 ==

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The article was vandalised only by you

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[edit] Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/White Argentina policy

  • Do not vote "Speedy Keep" without being clear on what Speedy Keep is. JuJube (talk) 17:55, 1 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Sock

See Diff. Jeepday (talk) 19:10, 5 April 2008 (UTC)

Response at my talk Jeepday (talk) 19:59, 5 April 2008 (UTC)

There was/is some discussion at User talk:Jeepday#Anonymous user 200.117.165.170 that you may be interested in. Jeepday (talk) 04:13, 8 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] White Argentina Policy

Your copy and paste of the translation of elements of the Racism in Argentina into the White Argentina Policy article strikes me as dishonest and downright deceitful, particularly in the way you changed the occasional word (incorrectly, I might add) to make it appear different. Vrac (talk) 03:54, 8 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Your recent edits at Demographics of Mexico

While it seems you are mostly interested in the topics of your own homecountry, mostly related to Demography and Ethnography; I noticed two unusual contributions at Demographics of Mexico:

  • The first one changed the racial estimation of the White population, replacing Britannica as the source with Wikipedia's own article on White Mexicans.
  • The second one introduced a rather tendentious paragraph on poverty with a selective use of sources.

Assuming good faith as you recently, or sporadically delve into other Latin American countries'—or rather, Mexico's—demographic or economic indicators, I reverted both edits based on the following grounds:

  • On the first edit—quite obviously—Britannica is a reputable source, not Wikipedia. Assuming good faith and not a tendentious modification of data, I highly recommend using reputable sources.
  • While I see that you added a section about "Economic Status" on Demographics of Argentina—a rather unrelated topic—I disagree with its inclusion at Demography of Mexico. Simply because the article is about, well, Demography, not economics. Moreover, and to be honest with you, the section you added was rather tendentious, especially when I compare your use of "sources" and language there, to the one you wrote at Demographics of Argentina. (For example, consider your use "self-ascription" [i.e. "I consider myself to be...] to define "middle-class" status, and not the World's Bank report on income by cohorts). However, a section on poverty in Mexico does exist and it is very well documented at Economy of Mexico, the appropriate article to talk about..., well, Economic standards, and using sources such as the World Bank, the UN and the CIA. I suggest that you also move the section on "Economic standards" from Demographics of Argentina to Economy of Argentina but since I have contributed little on that article, I will only keep that as a suggestion.

Being an admin at ca.wiki most of my edits are related to Spain/Catalonia, but after a stalemate in heated discussions, I decided to delve into Latin American topics, starting with Mexico. Nonetheless—and since Economics and History are my area of interest and expertise—I would be more that happy to participate and coordinate projects with you in articles related to Argentina. Feel free to contact me.

Cheers, --the Dúnadan 13:36, 9 April 2008 (UTC)

--Dear Dunadan I agree with you, the only reason I made the recently edits is because I noticied that in Demography of Mexico there was not a poverty index that is why I added this source. I should 've added the standard of life and poverty part into Economy of Mexico.

Yes, it is true that I mostly make edits in argentina's articles might be patriotism or something I don't know, but more recently I am seeking to make edits in other articles besise Argentina's, (eg demographics and history of Uruguay, Mexico etc). Nonetheless (your key word) I still remember the "heated discutions" that we had but well, lets leave the past behind and why not work together as you say on different articles.

Fercho85 (talk) 22:19, 9 April 2008 (UTC)

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[edit] Transportation

Hey Fercho85, how you doing, nice input you've did on Buenos Aires; Transportation, did some adjustments and also shortened a bit, i hope you agree, you had Tram systems in several places and grouped them together, also changed Underground for Metro, and Tram for Light Rail since its more appealing world wide, greetings, Moebiusuibeom-en (talk) 21:10, 5 May 2008 (UTC)

Dear Moebiusuibeom-en since you wrote to me in english I will talk to you in the same language.. Firstly I personally agree with you in changing Metro to Underground, nonetheless the term was not wrong, regarding the term tram I think it is better to change it by light rail since tram is "a railborne vehicle, lighter than a train, designed for the transport of passengers (and/or, very occasionally, freight) within, close to, or between villages, towns and/or cities, primarily on streets" whereas light rail "is a form of urban rail public transportation that generally has a lower capacity and lower speed than heavy rail and metro systems" Finally I will reorder the pictures if you don't agree please let me know.. --Fercho85 (talk) 21:29, 5 May 2008 (UTC)

Good fellow, I know the term "Underground" is also correct but it's just too British, Metro is known trough out the world and we're talking about the Buenos Aires Metro.
On the other hand Light Rail is strictly an American term for Newer street or off street running light rail vehicles, in Europe they are still called Trams, check Tram, anyway, there is a lot of controversy on this subject. In Buenos Aires they where originally called Tram, or Tramway, check the history of Línea Urquiza , nevertheless, it doesn't bother me if the term Light Rail is used.
On the images, please be my guest, i think there is one too many anyway!
By the way, the section may still need some light polishing. Nice working with you, y sobre el ingles, ni me di cuenta. Moebiusuibeom-en (talk) 00:43, 6 May 2008 (UTC)
... apparently we have a native English speaker (User:Durrus) do needed corrections (polishing) on article and by the way, "Tram" was left untouched, i believe there is a nice balance in copy between Tram and Light Rail, please reconsider keeping Tram! cheers - Moebiusuibeom-en (talk) 02:13, 6 May 2008 (UTC)


Fercho8; we're on the right track, the adjustments you've made are just right !! (though i disagree with having the PreMetro map there , the line is too insignificant for the city)
In reference to Tram vs Light Rail, did some research and we're both right, BUT, according to world definition, Tren de la Costa, could be considered light rail, and you where right on that, here is why
1] it's not Street Running
2] it has High Door Sills not accessible from street level
3] requiring Stations and Station Platforms for passenger ingress and egress,
so technically it's a light rail
So the section could be divided into two parts, Tram and Light Rail but i believe it would lengthen the article too much and since both systems do have similar technologies, i would live them together but specify Tren de la Costa as light rail.
I will do additional slight adjustments, regards - Moebiusuibeom-en (talk) 14:01, 6 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Voseo

Voseo is used in places like Honduras and Guatemala as much as in Argentina, its the language of the people all over. Not quite sure why you are disputing this. Que le vaya bien. Thanks, SqueakBox 22:37, 17 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Notification of closed RfA

I have just closed your RfA. Please take the time to review it and continue to work on concerns raised by the opposing votes. You may also want to look at WP:ARL. I hope this does not stop you from editing wikipedia in a contructive way. Best regards from SynergeticMaggot (talk) 12:07, 20 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Admin

Hey, I just noticed your RfA. Sorry you weren't accepted- but do not dispair! Your edits are constructive and the material always relevant- all you need is required experience. Best of luck next time, Dionix (talk) 21:02, 20 May 2008 (UTC)

Hi Fercho. I hope you don't mind, and I don't want to touch your home page, but one little comment: aficionado = "passionate" or "enthusiastic" in English (not "afitionate". I doubt that word exists). Your English is otherwise very good (a million times better than my Spanish), so I thought I should point that out to you. By the way, I was in Argentina about ten years ago. Loved it! Dionix (talk) 18:07, 23 May 2008 (UTC)
If it's fun for you, don't give up! I for one am learning from your edits on Italians in South America.
Also, I notice from your home page that you may have ancestry from the same area of Calabria as me- Rogliano- very close to Parenti. As for my visit to Argentina, I travelled by car from Santiago to Mendoza (the mountain pass was an experience!), then flew to BA where I stayed a few days and had an incredible time. Didn't really get down to las pampas or anywhere else, but I hope to come back there some day. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Dionix (talk • contribs) 21:17, 23 May 2008 (UTC)

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