Talk:Fernando Suarez

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--Florentino floro (talk) 08:34, 13 January 2008 (UTC)

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[edit] Healing Catholic Priest and the Mega-Shrine, Philippines

I created this article/bio of Fr. Fernando Suarez, in view of the many healing miracles he allegedly made. I hope that many users will expand this IN TIME, and researchers / experts on this field will benefit from this landmark edit, since he is very NOTABLE or noted.

--Florentino floro (talk) 07:31, 2 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Notability

Currently Suarez' notability is still somewhat tenuous - his claims are definitely notable, but they need to be better sourced, ideally to non-tabloid publications. The Manila Standard is a good start, but he's only mentioned once so it's not extensive coverage. I'm sure he's notable, but it needs more. WLU (talk) 21:09, 2 January 2008 (UTC)

Oh, my legal prayers were heard. You know, this Fr. Suarez is media shy and does not want publicity. So media was so cooperative. NOW, I submit best WikiPedia verifiable sources to prove the article's points: a)our top Philippine Daily Inquirer (note Manila Standard is good but it never got even 3rd place, vide the 2nd Manila Bulletin and 3rd is Philippine Star) front-paged today January 6, Sunday, Fr. Suarez'Inquirer.net, Stage set for RP as global healing center; it was so OBJECTIVE, neutral and even did not stress the miracles he made, it just published the BIG EVENT on January 11-13 and expunged his millions of miracles, as a top paper; b) our top GMA Network published on video - clear and indubitable evidence of successful healing by Fr. Suarez. <redacted by WLU (talk)>. But for sure, on the department of healing, he is notable,first and foremost, and since, unlike those tele evangelists you can read in WikiPedia healing category, you and I cannot find CONTROVERSIES on him. There is none, since the videos (before they are not verifiable; but this video published by GMA Network, I respectfully submit is VERIFIABLE due to its being our top TV station.

--Florentino floro (talk) 06:16, 6 January 2008 (UTC)

Look, after 3000 edits, you should know how to space talk pages comments. Don't overlap right next mine. Read WP:TALK - I should not be continuously having to fix basic mistakes on talk and mainspace pages. It's not hard. And don't use talk pages to spam yourself. I've redacted the links and self-promoting spam you provided (and you can spam more than just links - this page is about Suarez, not F. Floro, so there's no reason to provide external links to your own name) as irrelevant to the page.
The Inquirer.net article is not objective, it's so incredibly sympathetic, it will have to be used very carefully. There's no skepticism, it's acting as a mouthpiece for Suarez. The video makes a good external link since it shows Suarez and currently the page lacks a picture. Unfortunately it's in Filipino, so I don't know what's actually being said. WLU (talk) 15:32, 6 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] ELinks shouldn't be news stories

Per WP:EL - external links are for links that can't be added to the page as a reference - home pages, videos, things like that. News stories should be included as inline citations, not external links. In particular, this link has only a very short section on Suarez, it's good for what's included in that section, but being in philippino, obviously it'd need to be added by someone who reads the language. WLU (talk) 18:53, 5 January 2008 (UTC)

Oh,thank. I stand corrected. Just that, at that time, I was still waiting for the proper verifiable GMA Network verifiable link and now it is here as I discussed above: please view them and even if as judge and lawyer I am skeptic, Fr. Suarez MADE the lame walk and that video is admissible even in international inquiries like USA Senate for it is by our top GMA Network. --Florentino floro (talk) 06:16, 6 January 2008 (UTC)
Addendum: sorry, I forgot the verifiable link:here: GMA NEWS.TV.video, Kapuso Mo, Jessica Soho: Healing Priest, 01/05/2008 --Florentino floro (talk) 06:18, 6 January 2008 (UTC)
All the external links to news footage have been collapsed into a single link to a search page of the station. Linking to every single news story about Suarez is not a good policy (Wikipedia is not mirror of media files). Please don't add further links to the EL section - if a news story is particularly interesting or informative, add it as an inline citation. WLU (talk) 14:05, 23 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Questionable inter-wikis

The inter-wikis of the German, Danish, and other foreign language versions are NOT about the subject. I have removed them. Starczamora (talk) 03:36, 28 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] May healing

I added this, since, even if on its face this is not a major Suarez report, still, because of MOBBING and sensationalized healing ministry here, this is NOTABLE. Why? Suarez catapulted to a higher throne than Fr. Corsie Legaspi. Mobs, throngs, and even millions went to him, like Jesus. So this GMA news is the only NOTICE around the world, which is as must for all FILIPINOS who are so sick and have no hope. Please do not delete this MAY HEALING return. Suarez, 40, announced his return to and resumption of healing in the Philippines on May, 2008.GMA NEWS.TV, ‘Healing’ priest returning to RP this month --Florentino floro (talk) 08:00, 7 May 2008 (UTC)

I added this since Canada.com reported the testimony of his superior: Suarez' superior at the Companions, Rev. Scott McCaig, believed in the healer's gift since many people truly got better. Fr. Scott testified: "all healing should be approached with some skepticism, but there's a place between total susceptibility and total rejection; I knew people, close friends, who went very skeptical, and who experienced profound moments of grace."canada.com/montrealgazette, A gift for healing --Florentino floro (talk) 10:40, 12 May 2008 (UTC)