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Contents 1 Women as theological figures 1.1 =============== 2 Non-ordination / Scholarship of Women 3 Lydia 4 Name 5 NPOV Tag

[edit] Women as theological figures

Contributions to Women as theological figures welcome.

There are many other "troubling" passages, certainly closer to the center of the Holy Bible. Categorizing women as temptresses seems to be a theme in the Proverbs... Psalm 31 ascribes a set of behaviors to the desirable woman, which might trouble feminist theory... And once I know I've seen a verse in which someone could barely find one righteous man, but he was certain he could not find any righteous women. I do not know for sure the context, but if anyone is interested in pursuing this topic, those are my feelings.

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How does this article compare with thealogy? Should they be merged? —Ashley Y 01:02, 2005 Jan 18 (UTC)

[edit] Non-ordination / Scholarship of Women

Changed around the third paragraph slightly; in particular, I removed the statement, "All these denominations forbid women from being recognized as religious clergy and scholars in the same way that men are accepted." While the first half of the statement may be accurate, the second half is definitely not. While I can only speak to the Roman Catholic Church, the failure to ordain women does not extend to a prohibition on female scholars, and many of the best feminist scholars in academia are Roman Catholic sisters or laywomen. Makrina 02:03, 2 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Lydia

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I was raised Southern Baptist where women are not to be clergy. I have since joined the United Methodist Church and like a lot of it's stuff a lot more. As that I'm male, female ordination has never really been an issue (it doesn't directly affect me). However, I have a number of friends who are very much into feminist theology. I like the passage about Phebe but can't find a translation that refers to Lydia as a deacon or even a servant. Help would be much appreciated.  :)

[edit] Name

Hi everyone,

Shirahadasha's excellent explanation notwithstanding, I’d like to remove the redirect to Religious feminism and copy the contents to Feminist Theology, for the following reasons:

1. The first two words of the article are “Feminist theology”, implying that the original author was thinking of feminist theology, not religious feminism.

2. In common parlance, “religious” frequently means “fanatical” – so the title of this article could have a pejorative connotation; viz, “Fanatical Feminism”.

3. “Religious Feminism” does not exist as a Library of Congress subject; “Feminist Theology” does.

4. Setting aside colloquial connotations of the word “religious”, the terms “Religious Feminism” and “Feminist Theology” mean two very different things: “Religious Feminism” seems to indicate something like scholarship in women’s studies or gender studies that is focused on religion, whereas “Feminist Theology” is theology through a feminist hermeneutic. “Religious Feminists” might include such scholars as Mieke Bal, Minoo Moallem, and perhaps even Simone de Beauvoir, although the term would quite likely be rejected by such scholars. Theologians who use a feminist hermeneutic would include: Rosemary Radford Ruether, Catherine Keller, Carter Heyward, and Maria Pilar Aquino.

So if people feel that there is a need for an article for Religious Feminism, it should be a separate article.

5. Many theologians are not necessarily religious—a few are even atheists—and would take offense at being lumped under a religious rubric.

6. Feminist Theology is actively studied at many seminaries, whereas Religious Feminism would most likely be studied in the Women’s Studies department of a university, if it is recognized at all.

7. Blu Greenberg (see Shirahadasha’s comments above) is referenced in the entry for Jewish Feminist Theology in the Women’s Studies Encyclopedia, and she is listed under Theology on www.myjewishlearning.com, so I think it may be a bit of a stretch to say that she doesn’t do theology.

I think that if neither Religious feminism nor Feminist Theology redirect, you will probably observe a decline in the number of edits to Religious feminism and an increase in the number of edits to Feminist Theology. I don't know if Wikipedia has a method for tracking views of articles, but it would be interesting to compare these as well.

Webbbbbbber (talk) 20:46, 15 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] NPOV Tag

I'm doing NPOV tag cleanup. Whenever an NPOV tag is placed, it is necessary to also post a message in the discussion section stating clearly why it is thought the article does not comply with POV guidelines, and suggestions for how to improve it. This permits discussion and consensus among editors. This is a drive-by tag, which is discouraged in WP, and it shall be removed. Future tags should have discussion posted as to why the tag was placed, and how the topic might be improved. Better yet, edit the topic yourself with the improvements.Jjdon (talk) 20:30, 25 April 2008 (UTC)