Talk:Feminine rhyme

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[edit] Merge?

Yes. Feminine rhyme covers multisyllabic end rhyme in English and French, while masculine rhyme covers final syllable rhyme. Other rhyming effects would be assonance, and "feminine" and "masculine" rhyme are far and away the most common (sole) terms for the rhyme form. I would actually suggest a redirect, with a merge only if the other article really has something to say. (Why is all that hip hop in this article, though? Are readers still confused about what fem. rhyme is at that point, that they need such a long quote?) Geogre 19:30, 18 August 2007 (UTC)

No! Multisyllabic rhyme constitues a rhyming scheme independent of masculine and feminine. While masculine involves the final syllable rhyme and feminine involves the penultimate and final syllable rhyme, multisyllabic rhyme involves rhyming schemes spanning more than the last two syllables. Masculine rhyme accents the final syllable and typically contributes gravity to verse, while feminine rhyme offers a less severe, perhaps more lyrically playful alternative. Multisyllabic rhyme, on the other hand, adds intricacy to a text, as well as an unprecedented rhyming conundrum. To fit multisyllabic rhyme into formal meter proves to be a formal challenge, and is therefore used sparingly and often incorrectly in terms of form matching content. Josue, 10:46, 12 September 2007 (PHS)

More importantly, why are you using the outdated sexist terms "masculine" and "feminine"? Most literary handbooks use "stong" and "weak" endings or "stong" and "weak" rhymes. 157.201.136.92 (talk) 05:21, 30 January 2008 (UTC)JCM

"Most literary handbooks"? Not the ones I've seen. And 458,000 hits in Google for "feminine rhyme" more than justify it having a separate entry. Sadly this entry is a mess. Internal rhyme is a different issue, and multisyllabic rhyme is a broader term, but merging this entry would simply make it harder for readers to find a definition for this specific term. The Eminem section is absurd and misleading. I've removed it, and the Tolkien example, as neither are examples of feminine end rhyme. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.230.114.143 (talk) 02:44, 9 February 2008 (UTC)

  • I'm not an expert, but from what Google Books shows, it seems that "multisyllabic rhyme" and "feminine rhyme" seem to be used synonymously. E.g. Bruce Connell, Amalia Arvanitihere: Phonology and Phonetic, p.162 [1]: "...because it captures feminine (i.e., multisyllabic) rhymes as well as masculine (i.e., monosyllabic) ones." I would therefore support the merger. --B. Wolterding (talk) 16:03, 12 April 2008 (UTC)
    • Experts or not, we'll need reliable sources to adopt a name. Off the top of my head I would have thought 'polysyllabic' was more widely accepted word than 'multisyllabic'. Stumps (talk) 05:55, 6 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Latin feminine rhymes

The term has the same meaning re English or Latin poetry. I can't recall if there is more than one example in Orff's selections from the Carmina Burana; perhaps someone else will find it handy to check, before i can.
--Jerzyt 12:17, 18 December 2007 (UTC)