Portal talk:Feminism

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[edit] Underconstruction

I started the talk page and added the tag. This portal was started as a result of discussion at WT:GS#Portal proposal. Phyesalis (talk) 03:43, 21 January 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for starting the talk page and for adding the "underconstruction" tag. --Grrrlriot (talk) 04:14, 21 January 2008 (UTC)
I've done a little bit of work. The design coding is quite difficult so I've fumbled around a bit with somethings. Also I've gone and used the lede from Feminism as the intro here, which although probably not perfect will get the ball rolling on it--Cailil talk 20:24, 28 January 2008 (UTC)
Thanks, Cailil! :) I appreciate your work on this portal. --Grrrlriot (talk) 20:29, 28 January 2008 (UTC)
I've done a little more to it. It's not looking too bad now. The Alice Walker, Helene Cixous and the Image are just suggestions to see how the page will look with content here--Cailil talk 01:06, 29 January 2008 (UTC)
It's looking a lot better than it was. It's good to test things out. It looks good, so far. --Grrrlriot (talk) 03:36, 29 January 2008 (UTC)
It's looking really good. I'll poke my head in too to work on it. --Lquilter (talk) 15:05, 29 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Subcategory/Task Force of Feminism

If you want more information or if you think you would be interested in participating, Take a look here: Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Gender_Studies#Subcategory.2FTask_Force_of_Feminism or stop by my talk page and let me know. Thanks! --Grrrlriot (talk) 02:50, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

I've added a red link to a Task force page under "Things To Do" - I'll add a reciprocal link over at the GS portal. What do you think? --Phyesalis (talk) 19:19, 12 February 2008 (UTC)
Sounds good to me. --Grrrlriot (talk) 20:40, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] updates

Hi everybody. I've just updated everything. I really do not like making these decisions on my own about on what article, bio and pic is selected. We need to formalize a system where all involved get to have their say on what we selected before the next months starts. With tha in mind could we have nominations for the various selected items please. I'm suggesting Feminist theory for the SA. Mary Robinson--Cailil talk 22:22, 4 March 2008 (UTC) Also I'd like to suggest we link "suggest a task" to Wikipedia:WikiProject_Gender_Studies/to_do--Cailil talk 23:36, 5 March 2008 (UTC)

I agree, We do need a system where we get to have our say in what we select before the next month starts. How do we go about nominations? The SA article Feminist theory sounds like a good idea. Also, The "suggest a task" link is a good idea. --Grrrlriot (talk) 18:40, 8 March 2008 (UTC)
Easiest thing to do might be to ask users to sign their nominations and to send out a call for nominations at teh beginning of the last week of each month to the task force members. We could then discuss that month's nominations on the appropriate nomination page or talk page--Cailil talk 19:07, 8 March 2008 (UTC)
That's a pretty good idea. Maybe have a nominations page that discusses the nominations or could the SA page be used for the discussions? --Grrrlriot (talk) 05:04, 9 March 2008 (UTC)
I suppose Portal_talk:Feminism/Selected_article_archive/Nominations Portal_talk:Feminism/Selected_picture_archive/Nominations and Portal_talk:Feminism/Selected_biography_archive/Nominations are the best places to use.--Cailil talk 16:36, 9 March 2008 (UTC)
Sounds good to me. --Grrrlriot (talk) 19:43, 9 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Category:Wikipedians interested in feminism

I created the category. I'm trying to get the word out to others about joining the category, so if your interested in feminism, add your name to the category on your userpage. --Grrrlriot (talk) 05:08, 9 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] June 2008 updates

There will live content again tomorrow in the Selected article, biography, and picture areas. Since consensus has been a bit quiet, and the updating dead, I went ahead and chose some already-suggested articles. I've also been doing various bits of housekeeping, which include moving suggested biographies from the SA nominating area to the SB nominating area, cleaning out dead months from the archives, linking nominating pages to one another, and a few other things. --Yamara ✉ 06:15, 31 May 2008 (UTC)

I also hid the DYK element until we can decide on what to do with it (I think the Technology Portal has a well-functioning DYK we could steal the code from). I suppose one next step is to settle on color schemes and whther we want or need tabs. I've done the Time Portal's scheme and tabs, and am open to ideas. --Yamara ✉ 06:31, 31 May 2008 (UTC)
Great work Yamara, you've made a lot of improvements to the portal - well done. Personally I like tabs, but do we have the content for them yet?--Cailil talk 12:32, 31 May 2008 (UTC)
Thanks. Tabs can just be useful for navigation, too...
...I have just spent all night rescuing Gender equality from the clutches of the ZYGARCHS (and the ill-defined Equalists). I think the portal is a step or two beyond "under construction" so I've given it a basic title... haven't posted it to the Portal lists yet, but I need some sleep... after fighting the ZYGARCHS. Cheers, Yamara ✉ 11:10, 1 June 2008 (UTC)

P:FEM now redirects to the portal. --Yamara ✉ 16:40, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for all the work you have done to the portal, Yamara! :) It looks GREAT! Sorry for not replying or working on the portal, I haven't been online much lately. Portal:Feminism is looking better than it was. Thanks again! --Grrrlriot (talk) 00:47, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Gender equality is one of this project's central concepts. It was AWOL.

Sorry for sounding a little wacky there above, I've had sleep now. Essentially, variations on Gender equality had been hijacked six or so months ago by redirects to both Zygarchy and Equalism, and had actually begun to affect the conversation across the internet.

This is bad news, as these terms have nothing behind them but ill-defined assertions. I've rarely been embarrassed for Wikipedia, but this is one of those moments where the site's power was left in the hands of POV/OR mischief-makers.

"Zygarchy" is a made-up word that would never meet the WP:NEO standard if anyone had caught it. It has never meant "rule of two genders" before someone asserted it on Wikipedia. There are a couple hundred blogs out there crowing about the "new word they'd learned" while learning less than zero about notable, verifiable internationally-established gender policy. (Somewhat ominously, "zygarchy" is an obscure but genuine term for an ancient military formation involving two chariots. I think the chariots were used to run infantry over... or to cut them down with a chain between them...)

"Equalism" has been used by notable sources and scholars-- but never consistently. There was some effort to use it to refer to communism in the fifties, anarchism at various points, and some among the Facebook crowd seem to like it better than "feminism"; one news citation in Sweden counts it as a subset of feminism. That is to say, it's a semantic game: There is no "-ism" there, just a desire for one, a moving target without a developed philosophy behind it. I've redirected it to a far more notable article, Egalitarianism.

Nearly every instance of a wikilink to Gender equality had been piped to Equalism. That's what last night was all about for me: finding and removing the plumbing from this phantasm.

I've reestablished the Gender equality article with cites to the UN and an external link to the World Bank. I've added it to the various gender studies and feminism templates. This is one of this project's central concepts, and we really have to watch these pages. Cheers, Yamara ✉ 21:43, 1 June 2008 (UTC)

Well done for catching that Yamara - I've added it to my watchlist as well--Cailil talk 21:57, 1 June 2008 (UTC)
I need to put Gender equality on my watchlist too. Thanks for letting us know! --Grrrlriot (talk) 00:49, 6 June 2008 (UTC)