Talk:Felix Z. Longoria, Jr.

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Felix Longoria is important in the history of Mexican-American civil rights. [[User:David Johnson|David Johnson [T|C]]] 19:37, 11 Dec 2004 (UTC)

[edit] What the heck has happened to this stub? Will revert.

This used to be a very good stub. But since the 01:42, 30 March 2007 Nobunaga24 version there has been quite a bit of vandalism by User:66.94.97.114 in April 2007. I have reverted this article to the 30 March 2007 Nobunaga24 version and I will also add the contribution of 18:59, 25 May 2007 Searchme to my revert as well as the contributions of User:195.22.28.18 in May 2007. Chicaneo 08:49, 6 June 2007 (UTC)

I dropped the longoria.net external links, which were to a genealogical site that had next to nothing on the article subject, just his parents name. I just don't think they're "meaty" enough to justify inclusion in the article. Also added a bibliography section, there's a book on the Longoria affair. Haven't read it, but since it's University of Texas press, it's probably worthwhile. Studerby 14:53, 6 June 2007 (UTC)

I've been meaning to read up on Pvt. Longoria so I can contribute to the article more. Thanks for the book ref.Chicaneo 00:02, 7 June 2007 (UTC)

What does the Z for his middle name stand for?

[edit] User:70.120.88.79 = User:Chicaneo

Sorry, I keep forgetting to sign in. All edits by User:70.120.88.79 were done by User:Chicaneo. No, there is not a phantom, unregistered editor out there.  :) Chicaneo 01:27, 7 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] "The rest of the story"

I just deleted some material whose edit summary referred to it as "the rest of the story". That material needs a reliable source to insure that it is WP:verifiable. Also, since Longoria's widow is presumptively alive, the material must comply with the biography of living persons policy. Studerby 16:35, 24 September 2007 (UTC)

My family was raised in Three Rivers. Mrs. Kenedy was a good friend of my grandmother who died in March 2007. while racial discrimination does occur, in Three Rivers and other parts of the US - it was not an underlying motive in the Longoria case. Additionally, citing references does not make information factual. The Felix Longoria Jr. case is far from true and it sickens me to hear the lies of 1949 bandied about to this very day by those wanting political cannon fodder. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Brittvincent (talk • contribs) 20:10, 24 September 2007 (UTC)

While you may have some special information about this, the problem is that Wikipedia is not based on what is "true" (because too many people argue about what is or isn't true), but on what is verifiable, since most well-intentioned people can agree on what reliable sources actually say, even when there are conflicting versions (policy is that all reliably sourced conflicting versions may be represented in an article). If there's a reliable source for that point of view of Mr. Kenedy's actions, then the article can reflect that, properly cited. If there's a reliable source for the material on Longoria's widow, then it can be included, again with proper citations. To quote Wikipedia policy:

The threshold for inclusion in Wikipedia is verifiability, not truth. "Verifiable" in this context means that any reader should be able to check that material added to Wikipedia has already been published by a reliable source. Editors should provide a reliable source for quotations and for any material that is challenged or is likely to be challenged, or it may be removed.

Studerby 20:55, 24 September 2007 (UTC)