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[edit] Truman announces the bombing of Hiroshima

Truman announces the bombing of Hiroshima

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Top encyclopedic importance, clear recording. Appears in Atomic bombings of Hiroshima and Nagasaki, U.S. Government public domain.

  • Nominate and support. - DurovaCharge! 22:25, 6 March 2008 (UTC)
  • Question—It seems like there should be an greeting by Truman, and it seems to end before the end. IS there more that was edited out? Zginder (talk) (Contrib) 23:28, 6 March 2008 (UTC)
    • I'm not certain about the editing. Despite the value of this audio, it was sitting unused at Commons. Is it that different from Image:Frase de Neil Armstrong.ogg in these respects? DurovaCharge! 23:36, 6 March 2008 (UTC)
      • It starts with, "The world will note" seems like an odd place to start. Zginder (talk) (Contrib) 00:18, 7 March 2008 (UTC)
  • Support I don't see (hear) anything wrong with it. Juliancolton The storm still blows... 20:42, 19 March 2008 (UTC)
  • Support. Strong encyclopedic value aside, I like it a lot. MrPrada (talk) 08:27, 20 March 2008 (UTC)
  • Oppose—per criterion:

5. Sound description page. The page contains an extended description of the file, including:

(iii) the date and venue of the recording, where they are recoverable;

(iv) the name(s) of the recordist/producer, and for historical recordings, a brief description of the recording equipment, where known;

(v) any editing that has been applied to the excerpt by the uploader, such as noise reduction by the uploader (aside from obvious fade ups and fade downs at the start and end), and by others, where that information is recoverable;

I believe this information is missing I will contact the original uploader to try to learn more. Zginder (talk) (Contrib) 22:11, 3 April 2008 (UTC)

Hi. I am sorry, but I just cannot remember where I found the file. That was 2 years ago, and I just did not pay too much attention at that moment. When Zginder asked the question, I first thought about the National Archives, but I could not find it. I made some research and discovered something I did not know: the file is edited. I have put the information about the original recording and about the way it was edited on the Commons page, but I did not do the edition. I also gave on the page a link to the full recording. Here is a link to another extract. Hope this helps. Bradipus (talk) 11:19, 6 April 2008 (UTC)
Thank you for your help, the recording now meets criterion 5, but do we what a longer version of the speech? Zginder (talk) (Contrib) 20:18, 6 April 2008 (UTC)
Honestly, now that I know it has been edited and that I know how, I find the choice made for the extract a bit strange. The inclusion of "We won the race of discovery against the Germans.", for instance, does not seem to serve any logical purpose. Why that sentence? I found that extract for instance, when I found it, more relevant. At the end of the day, the most interesting extract would probably include: "The British, Chinese, and United States Governments have given the Japanese people adequate warning of what is in store for them. (...) our terms were rejected. (...) The world will note that the first atomic bomb was dropped on Hiroshima, a military base. That was because we wished in this first attack to avoid, insofar as possible, the killing of civilians. But that attack is only a warning of things to come. (...) I realize the tragic significance of the atomic bomb. (...) We have used it in order to shorten the agony of war, in order to save the lives of thousands and thousands of young Americans. We shall continue to use it until we completely destroy Japan's power to make war. Only a Japanese surrender will stop us."
But I am afraid I do not think having the tools to do this. Bradipus (talk) 21:30, 6 April 2008 (UTC)


  • Oppose. Info page: what is "herbelow"? Hyphen missing there, too. "text in small" is not right. Duration of file not specified as required. The info page and the sound-bite box should each explicitly say "edited extract". Although the sentences stitched together do make sense, I think the extracting of them in the first place is quite unnecessary, possibly distortive, and causes the file to lose historical interest.
  • Recording:


Not promoted Work was done on the image page, but the recording was edited --Zginder 2008-05-19T23:31Z (UTC)