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[edit] Portal:United States Navy

The information pertaining to the US Navy is an addiction for me. fortunately when I came along no one had made the US Navy portal and I have had the pleasure of creating it from scratch. I have spent a great deal of time to get everything situated and now I would like to nominate it. --Wilsbadkarma 02:37, 24 December 2006 (UTC)

  • Object. Looks good overall, but needs a few things added or fixed. Support. Great job! :-) Rfrisbietalk 06:31, 25 December 2006 (UTC)
    • More Selected... articles, quotes and bios to get them up to at least ten each.
    • Offer "nominations" areas for all "Selected..." sections.
    • Remove "Show/Hide" boxes on Main page "...open tasks." These do not display properly for all skins.
    • Edit links on "Tasks and Projects" page should go directly to content displayed, not a transclusion code.
    • Question: What happens when nothing is entered for a "Selected anniversary"? This is problematic if nothing displays. Rfrisbietalk 03:40, 24 December 2006 (UTC)
  • Oppose for now. Aside from the objections raised by Rfrisbee, the layout of the selected material could be better presented; it seems to me that the content on the left occupies about 2/3rds of the section. It does not look pleasing to the eye(s). TomStar81 (Talk) 05:42, 24 December 2006 (UTC)
    • Support - What I meant by the formatting was not an "up or down" issue, but a "left to right" issue: when compared to the centrally aligned "Major Topics" box near the bottom the content on the left hand side of the page seem to cut across and into the boxs presented on the right hand side, giving the impression that the odds are 60-40 in favor of the left. I admit that it bothers me somewhat since I like everything nice and even; However, it is not a 'major' issue that I will hold against you, just something I see that bugs me. I have checked the other objections I had and they have been adressed accordingly. TomStar81 (Talk) 10:51, 27 December 2006 (UTC)
  • Ok I'm Still in the process of making some of the changes but i have removed the show hide from the main page, added noms area, i have remove the requested articles "boxes inside of boxes" onthe Taks and Projects page and give them all there own, and as for the question on the anniversary area if you take a look I have information for every day between today and 14 February and I intend to complete the rest of the year. I'm still working to add the remaining articles and other selected content. and inresponce to TomStar im working on getting all the content to line up no matter what to ramdon secquence. --Wilsbadkarma 20:52, 24 December 2006 (UTC)
    • The "open tasks" edit links still went to transclusions, so I changed them to the actual pages. Rfrisbietalk 22:50, 24 December 2006 (UTC)
    • Thank you --Wilsbadkarma 00:13, 25 December 2006 (UTC)
  • Well Rfrisbie I believe I have taken care of your last objection now. I have at least 10 Selected.....everything.
  • TomStar I'm not 100% sure what you were meaning by your comment but I assume you were talking about the big gaping hole on the bottom left hand side that would appear when certain articles came up. If that was the case I have spent a lot of time on every article, picture, quote, etc. making sure that no matter what other article they are randomly displayed with that very little to no space is let empty on either side. Making the article look a lot cleaner too. So, if that was your objection thanks it forced me fix something that was bugging me anyway. If it wasn't and you were referring to something else please let me know. --Wilsbadkarma 06:41, 25 December 2006 (UTC)

Objections:

  • I think to nominate selected articles/pictures/equipments/biographies/quote/anniversaries, there is no requirement of seperate section. It could be included in respective sections.
  • I suspect about the criteria to choose selected articles. There are starting-level articles like, First Navy Jack and B-class articles Army-Navy Game are the parts of selected articles. Articles chosen as selected should be of very high quality, i.e. WP:FA, WP:GA or A-class.
  • Selected equipments are very randomly chosen. I doubt how United States Navy CVN-21 program and 1MC are equipments. The qualities of these articles are not satisfactory for the articles associated in selected equipments.
  • Selected biographies have the articles of B-class.
  • The listed associated wikimedia sister projects do not exist except for commons. Please link them properly or remove them.See below.
  • Bold the highlighted article link in selected anniversary section.
  • Use web resources on tasks and projects subpage only. External links do not use on the portal main page.
  • Why there is need of another subpage for categories only?Allright
  • Please remove "..." in the end from selected picture heading in the section.
  • DYK section would be helpful for interesting facts related to US Navy. Shyam (T/C) 10:56, 26 December 2006 (UTC)

Changes So far I have corrected many of Shyam's objections to the portal the are.

  • I Have removed the Nom section and renamed the more... to Archive/Nominations and included a Heading in a selected archives for someone to nominate an article for selection.
    • Please use seperate links for archive and nominations. Shyam (T/C)
  • All on this day articles have the highlighted article in bold.
  • Web resources are now only located on the tasks and projects page.
  • I have removed all sub task forces of already listed projects and updated the section with three other projects related to the US Navy.
  • I have removed any categories from the Major topics and categories section and renamed the section Major topics thus making category tab no longer redundant.
    • Please use categories on the portal page. There is no need of another page for categories only. Is there any specific reason for it to sepearte categories from the main page?Okay Shyam (T/C)
  • I have removed "..." from the picture heading.

I am still working on the other three objections and will repost here when im finished --Wilsbadkarma 19:32, 26 December 2006 (UTC)

Remaining Changes Well Shyam I believe I have corrected all the issues you have objected to in addition to the changes above I have made the following:

  • All Selected articles are now FA-Class
  • Selected equipment content are either weapons or types of vehicles (e.g. Aircraft, ship class, or helicopter)
  • All biographies are now B-class or higher.

Please let me know if there are any other objections or if this cleared them up. --Wilsbadkarma 02:48, 27 December 2006 (UTC)

Response:

Very nice work. I have striked out my previous objections which have been dealt accordingly. I have commented, if there is need of further work. Please deal with the issues which are still not striked out and I have commented in changes. Please deal with the issues listed below also:

New Changes Made OK Shyam I think I have made all of your changes this time:

  • Nominations and more (whatever) are separate.
  • The unlinked sister projects have been removed.
  • added the DYK section
  • arranged all major topics alphabetically except for Command since it is in order of Chain of Command.
  • removed all redirects from the Major topics list
  • removed the odd links you mentioned and move awards over to personnel
  • and as for the reasoning for the categories tab. I wanted to use the category tree without having to split up the bottom section of the main page otherwise it would either be all on the left. plus it just seems cleaner to me not to have that long tree on the main page.--Wilsbadkarma 09:02, 27 December 2006 (UTC)

Great work

The issues have been dealt in good manner. I do not mind to use category tab if you want to use category tree. Please find sister project links wherever possible. I think for wikiquote, wikisource, wikibooks, you could find/create easily a proper link. Only commons link in the assosiate wikimedia does not fit. Other than this, I totally support the portal to be featured. Shyam (T/C) 11:12, 27 December 2006 (UTC)

    • Shyam - Just want to respond and let you know that I have added four sisterwikis that are correctly linked and thanks for the good word.--WilsBadKarma (Talk/Contribs) 07:01, 29 December 2006 (UTC)
  • Support, everything looks good to go now. Kirill Lokshin 19:50, 31 December 2006 (UTC)