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[edit] Cape St. Vincent

Original - This false-color image captured by NASA's Mars Exploration Rover Opportunity shows Cape St. Vincent. The material at the top of the promontory consists of loose, jumbled rock, then a bit further down into the crater, abruptly transitions to solid bedrock.

Alt 1 - This true-color image, taken by the Mars Exploration Rover Opportunity, shows the view of Victoria Crater from Cape Verde. Cape St. Vincent is the promontory visible on the left of the photo. It was captured over a three-week period, from October 16 - November 6, 2006.

Reason: This is a "eye-catching" image of Cape St. Vincent, taken by a NASA space shuttle.
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Creator: NASA (Uploaded by - Ohmpandya ^{We need to talk... ♦ contribs} 04:09, 20 January 2008 (UTC))

Support Alt 1 as nominator - Ohmpandya ^{We need to talk... ♦}

^contribs 04:09, 20 January 2008 (UTC)

Wait, who nominated Alt 1? ;) —DMCer ™ 09:09, 27 January 2008 (UTC)

~~Oppose~~ Good technological demonstration, but a false color image of earth with strange margins isn't necessarily feature-worthy. Durova^Charge! 04:18, 20 January 2008 (UTC)
- It's not Earth - it's Mars. jeez. de Bivort 13:53, 20 January 2008 (UTC)
  - Although I agree some parts of southern Portugal are strange enough that they seem like they're from another planet, this appears to be a test shot taken at Cape St. Vincent. The misidentification of the Space Shuttle as being infolved led me to dig a little. Am I wrong? Durova^Charge! 19:47, 20 January 2008 (UTC)
    - The image is a lobe of the rim of Victoria (crater) on Mars. It was taken by the Mars Rover Opportunity, not the shuttle - that was a misidentified descriptor of the image. All the lobes of the crater rim are named for terrestrial capes and bays. de Bivort 00:32, 21 January 2008 (UTC)
      - Support alt 1 Now there's a landscape I hope to visit someday. Durova^Charge! 19:01, 21 January 2008 (UTC)
True color version. It's big enough to be cropped, you might find a higher res version here (currently offline). Either way, the subject is cut off and the sky is completely blown (which is harder to do on Mars than Earth). MER-C 04:57, 20 January 2008 (UTC)
Oppose - this wasn't taken by the Space Shuttle, Ohmpandya, it's on Mars - the Shuttle is not an interplanetary craft. Humans have never been to Mars, a Shuttle has never left Earth orbit. The image description page says 'This is a stunning artist's conception image of' - is it, or is it not actually an image of Mars then? If this is an artist's conception, there's nothing special about it to make it an FP. The black border is also very distracting, the sky is blown (reason as pre MER-C) and there's not much point in featuring a false colour pic when there are plenty of true-colour (or at least nearer to true colour) ones around. —Vanderdecken∴ ∫ξ φ 11:42, 20 January 2008 (UTC)

It's a colour composite of various black and white images taken at different wavelengths. MER-C 13:42, 20 January 2008 (UTC)

Not the best While a cool picture, the weird framing and fake colorization disqualify this candidate from FP status. See below --Shark face 217 01:54, 21 January 2008 (UTC)
Oppose per Sharkface. Clegs (talk) 16:19, 21 January 2008 (UTC)
Support Alt 1 as Nominator The original was a noble effort, and straightening pictures is pretty quick & easy, but I think the color and range of view still would leave something to be desired. I found this alternative using one of the links listed above ( I've cropped it to straighten the edges). It shows the same crater as the first photo, but from a wider angle and better vantage point. Hi-res, no noise or compression, and very encyclopedic in my humble opinion.-DMCer ™ 05:38, 21 January 2008 (UTC)
Comment Should the second pic be nominated separately? Clegs (talk) 16:18, 21 January 2008 (UTC)

No need, mind specifying??—DMCer ™ 18:10, 21 January 2008 (UTC)

It's just not clever at all.. apart from the fact that this nom already has opposes which work against the alt, it's mis-named, hastily concieved and generally mis-nominated. I'd support a re-nom, but not this nom. --mikaul^talk 23:34, 22 January 2008 (UTC)

I thought the same thing first time I saw it; the point being the 'alt' is so entirely different from the original I wouldn't really regard it as an alternative. --jjron (talk) 06:03, 23 January 2008 (UTC)

It should be noted, for those who are confused, that "Cape St. Vincent" is the promontory on the left side of both images.—DMCer ™ 15:21, 24 January 2008 (UTC)

Support Alt 1, Oppose Original Alt 1 really fixes the problems I had with the original. It is FP quality, of course. --Shark face 217 02:29, 23 January 2008 (UTC)
Support Alt 1, Oppose Original Have to say, Alt 1 is a superb image of Mars terrain. It also took quite a lot of time and effort in getting the Mars Rover to take the image and transmit it back to Earth. It's the type of picture that would look great printed out and put along my hallway. I do believe, however, that the original nomination should be denied and a new nomination should be made for Alt 1. What about a nom for "Victoria Crater on Mars"? Ga2re2t (talk) 13:38, 23 January 2008 (UTC)
- Comment I think that's purely procedural, not time efficient, and not really necessary, BUT, I'll do it. I've seen numerous FP noms overlaid this way. I'll move the relevant votes up in a bit.—DMCer ™ 04:05, 24 January 2008 (UTC)