Wikipedia:Featured list candidates/List of Interstate Highways

The following is an archived discussion of a featured list nomination. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the article's talk page. No further edits should be made to this page. The closing editor's comments were: 11 days, 0 support, 2 oppose. Fail. --Crzycheetah 18:08, 28 July 2007 (UTC)

This was nominated earlier, and objections have been addressed. Therefore, I am renominating. --Rschen7754 (talk - contribs) 17:10, 17 July 2007 (UTC)

• Oppose:
  • First of all, the name. This isn't an exhaustive list of interstate highways, it's a list only of the primary routes. Yes, each one lists the secondary routes, but only the numbers, not the actual routes. That is to say, there's more than one I-495, but only one is mentioned here. Perhaps another list should be made, exhaustively listing every interstate highway.
  • Perhaps the table should be sortable, if only for the mileage?
    • If not, then perhaps a separate mention of the longest and shortest interstates?
  • You know people are going to complain that there's no metric distance mentioned. I won't hinge my support on this, but I think others might.
  • No mileage is given for the A, H, or PR routes, nor are the start/end points given. In general, the 'interstates outside the mainland' section seems a bit spartan.
  • A mention of why some interstates appear twice on the list, with west and east, would be useful. (examples: 76, 86)
  • Doesn't I-238 still count as a primary interstate? (I could be wrong, this is more of a general question)
  • That's all for now. --Golbez 17:32, 17 July 2007 (UTC)
    • I-238 is officially an auxiliary interstate. (→O - RLY?) 17:39, 17 July 2007 (UTC)
    • I think that since this is an American topic, American numbers should be the primary mileage. Metric equivalents are available in the individual articles. --Rschen7754 (talk - contribs) 17:42, 17 July 2007 (UTC)
      • You'd think that, but look at List of U.S. states by area. --Golbez 17:46, 17 July 2007 (UTC)
        • Well there, the area part of it is essential. Here, it really isn't. --Rschen7754 (talk - contribs) 17:49, 17 July 2007 (UTC)
  • The duplicated numbers issue has been explained. --Rschen7754 (talk - contribs) 00:23, 20 July 2007 (UTC)
• Oppose for now, though let me say first that it's a pretty good list so far.
  • Not a deciding factor, but there is space for images along the right side of the list.
  • As for the metric discussion, even though this is an American list, there will almost certainly be non-American readers. I think the metric equivalents need to be added.
  • Just a question: there's no estimated mileage for I-22?
  • I think the Interstates outside the mainland should have the same information provided as the rest of the interstates, in other words they need start and end points and mileage.

Geraldk 13:12, 21 July 2007 (UTC)

• Re I-22: the other interstates that are incomplete only include the completed length, so it's probably only equal that a wholly incomplete one would have a null length... --Golbez 00:54, 24 July 2007 (UTC)

NeutralI think this could pass as a FL with some minor improvements. I have no problem with the level of detail on the Associated routes. I think the list should be renamed List of Primary Interstate Highways to lessen the expectation of comprehensive coverage of the associated routes. Having grown up in Buffalo, NY and lived in Chicago, IL since 2000, route 90 is near and dear to me. I find its coverage comprehensive. If this list does make clear that its coverage of Associated routes is ancillary I will not be disappointed not to know the beginning and ending points and mileages of I-290, for example. I am unsure whether non-mainland routes should hold up this list. The list would be better if they had the same detail as the mainland routes. However, if the list is retitled List of Primary Interstate Highways in the Contiguous United States the list becomes comprehensive with respect to this challenge. I would prefer some detail about the political history of the interstate system in the lead (Especially as it relates to Dwight Eisenhower).--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/tcfkaWCDbwincowtchatlotpsoplrttaDCLaM) 23:42, 23 July 2007 (UTC)

Addendum By giving the reader a date at which this list was correct you leave the reader wondering how much the list changes over time. Do you have any indication of how many miles or routes have been added to the list recently or how much the list generally changes. It might be interesting to say at several specific time periods in the past how many interstates existed so we have a better idea of this lists relevance today. For example if 95% of this list existed in 1970 and only 5% has been added since it would mean something different than if 40% of the list has been added since 1990.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/tcfkaWCDbwincowtchatlotpsoplrttaDCLaM) 23:59, 23 July 2007 (UTC)