Wikipedia:Featured list candidates/Indian national cricket captains

The following is an archived discussion of a featured list nomination. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the article's talk page. No further edits should be made to this page. The closing editor's comments were: 15 days, 5 support, 0 oppose. Promote. --MarcK 00:56, 9 June 2007 (UTC)

Initial Thoughts: Self-Nomination. Updated the entire list for all players who have captained India in Mens, Womens and Youth Cricket. Also, fixed all redlinks to ensure that ALL players who have captained the national team have a wikipage started. Please let me know if we can restore FL for this page. Kalyan 20:33, 25 May 2007 (UTC)

• Comment, the Where a player has a dagger... bit should probably come after the table of contents. -- Phoenix2 ^{(talk, review)} 20:46, 25 May 2007 (UTC)

I am unable to make that change. Can you please help me do it? Also, the other thing i didn't know was to right align as i wanted to right-align the "updated to .." sentence. Please let me know how to do it or if you can make the mod, it will be great. Kalyan 20:50, 25 May 2007 (UTC)

Done the TOC. Not sure where you mean on the other bit? AllynJ 22:12, 25 May 2007 (UTC)

Support, it's fine now. -- Phoenix2 ^{(talk, review)} 03:21, 26 May 2007 (UTC)

• Condition support Support, few things need tidying up:

• Lala Amarnath led Indian cricket team|India to its first test victory - against Pakistan in 1952/53 season. - attempted Wikilink missing brackets for Indian cricket team. DONE
• Mansoor Ali Khan Pataudi led India to its first overseas test victory - against New Zealand in 1967/68 season[8] as well as series victory in the same series[9] - needs a full stop (remember to put it before the citation). DONE
• Kapil Dev has 111 Wicket (cricket)|Wickets in 34 matches as India's captain while Bedi has 106 wickets in 22 matches. Bedi has eight 5 Wicket/Inning hauls compared to Kapil Dev's four. - again, missing brackets for a wikilink around 'Wickets'. DONE
• Tendulkar has the highest average of 51.35 (25 Matches) - decapitalise matches DONE
• Kapil Dev was the captain of India's only tied-test match (against Australia in Chepauk, Chennai) - this is incorrect, recheck it. (Tied test match series, maybe? I have no idea, not familiar with Indian cricket during that period.)

There have only been 2 tied test matches in Test Cricket. Click here for details. Kapil was the captain of the Indian side.

Oh I see you mean tied as opposed to drawn - you might want to clarify that.

• Dravid and Kapil Dev have the highest percentage win rate (56%), for Indians who have captained more than 20 matches. - remove the comma. DONE
• Ganguly has the best bowling figures returned by an Indian captain in ODI cricket against Zimbabwe. Kapil Dev is the only other Indian captain to have taken a five wicket haul (12-2-43-5 against Australia) - seems odd that you state the bowling figures by Dev but not those by Ganguly, which you state are better?

Response: I had originally included it but had accidentally removed it during copyedits.

• Only Ricky Ponting (15) has more centuries in ODI cricket than Ganguly when skippering his team. - 'his team' should be changed to 'their respective team'. The second sentence after that is just a list, could do with being put in to a sentence.

Response: completed sentence.

• With respect to world women's cricket, - this actually means something other than what I think you mean (providing I'm reading it correctly) - you could simply shorten it to "Raj is listed at #3 on most matches as captain after Belinda Clark (101) and Clare Connor (66).[19]" DONE
• Maben's bowling figures is the current world record in women's cricket for the best bowling figures of a player when captaining the side. - change 'is' to 'are'. (Perhaps 'when' to 'while' too, I'm not sure on the tense there - anyone else know for certain?) DONE

Addressed all comments. Kalyan 11:32, 26 May 2007 (UTC)

I would also like to see a note on the most successful ODI captain added to the lead (in terms of games won, as with Ganguly for Tests), and at least a sentence or two about the women's cricket team (whilst staying in context to the captain's achievements). Thanks. AllynJ 22:23, 25 May 2007 (UTC)

I thought about the ODI success and since there is no bigger than the WC victory, did not want to add stats on victories etc. However, you made a very valid point on women's cricket and i have added a couple of sentences in the lead para on women's cricket. Kalyan 14:30, 27 May 2007 (UTC)

• Comments Continuing AllynJ's review

• Lala Amarnath led Indian cricket team|India to its first test victory - against Pakistan in 1952/53 season - It was Hazare in 1951-2 DONE
• Mansoor Ali Khan: 4 (New Zealand - 4) - check again. Should be three.DONE
• Tendulkar's score of 186* against New Zealand in 1999/00 season bettered Kapil Dev's record (175*) for the highest score by the captain in ODI cricket. Tendulkar's record was broken by Sanath Jayasuriya who scored 189 against India in 2000/01 season. Kapil Dev had earlier broken Glenn Turner's record (171*) for the highest score by the captain. - There was at least one between Kapil Dev and Tendulkar - Richards' 181 in the 1987 World Cup DONE
• anguly has the best bowling figures returned by an Indian captain in ODI cricket against Zimbabwe. Kapil Dev is the only other Indian captain to have taken a five wicket haul (12-2-43-5 against Australia) - Include the figures for Ganguly DONE Tintin 23:35, 25 May 2007 (UTC)

Addressed all comments. Kalyan 11:32, 26 May 2007 (UTC)

I added a note to one of the comments, other than that I change my vote to a support. Thanks! AllynJ 17:21, 26 May 2007 (UTC)

• Support Comment The picture doesn't have fair use rationale for this list and I don't think it can have a reasonable one for a list, should just be removed.--THUGCHILDz 00:14, 26 May 2007 (UTC)

Removed. Kalyan 11:32, 26 May 2007 (UTC)

Note to promoter: This is a former featured list, so if this is promoted be sure to also edit the former featured lists article to reflect that this has been repromoted. Thanks. Miss Madeline | Talk to Madeline 21:11, 3 June 2007 (UTC)

Comment I think it would be a bit more user friendly if the "Number Name Year Opposition Location Played Won Lost Drawn" row was inserted every 10 captains or so. Buc 14:58, 4 June 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for the comment. However, this is in line with the standard practice adopted to list national cricket captains - Australia, England, New Zealand. I cannot take a decision on this but will present in Cricket talk. Kalyan 17:54, 4 June 2007 (UTC) Based on the agreement in the talk, i have repeated header rows at frequent intervals - decades for test matches and after every 15 captains for ODI matches. Kalyan 10:27, 8 June 2007 (UTC)

• Comment I really think these tables should use proper table captions.Circeus 04:04, 6 June 2007 (UTC)
• Support - Good work. It would be interested if you added some info about which youth captains have gone on to represent India at senior level to make it even better. Blnguyen (bananabucket) 07:25, 8 June 2007 (UTC)

Done. I have added '*' mark after the name of captains who went on to play international cricket. Kalyan 09:57, 8 June 2007 (UTC)