Wikipedia:Featured article review/Butter
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[edit] Butter
Notified: User:Bunchofgrapes, Wikiproject Food and Drink, Agriculture, Culture
Criteria concerns:1a, 1c
- Shapes, History, Production and storage-cooking have increasingly unsourced content.
- Needs an infobox, categories, and two or more image need diminishing.
Shouldn't be tough. Ultra! 18:51, 5 June 2008 (UTC)
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- Infoboxes are not required by WP:WIAFA; since you brought the FAR, can you just add the categories and reduce the images? SandyGeorgia (Talk) 18:58, 5 June 2008 (UTC)
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- Done, and notified. Ultra! 19:12, 5 June 2008 (UTC)
- I agree the article needs more sources or at least more inline citations so it is obvious where the information is coming from (the production section has none and throughout the article there are several other paragraphs with no apparent sourcing must prominently in the storage and cooking section). How much is taken from the publications listed in the reference section, if everything in the article is covered by them could the individual sections/paragraphs/statements be better attributed by someone who has knowledge of them? Guest9999 (talk) 04:49, 6 June 2008 (UTC)
- Seriously, the material in lead needs to be in the body of the text, o needs an etymology section. Prose is somewhat repetitive and I have started trimming. More to come. Cheers, Casliber (talk · contribs) 08:38, 6 June 2008 (UTC)
- There are some inconsistencies with units throughout the piece, generally metric is used first followed by imperial but there are instances where American units are used first and one instance where for some reason grains appear to be used instead of ounces. Guest9999 (talk) 14:34, 6 June 2008 (UTC)
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- OK, here's the thing Guest9999. I am glad you have pointed this out. Now, as at least the order of units should be pretty straightforward to fix, it would be great if you could get stuck in and help fix these too. I didn't write this article - at FAR, many of the original contributors are no longer active or may not be able or willing to keep the article at FA status, so hence no-one will (likely) take responsibility for making sure this one survives FAR. If you could chip in it would be extremely helpful. Cheers, Casliber (talk · contribs) 22:29, 6 June 2008 (UTC)
- I will try and brush up on the relevant guidelines for units. Whilst you say it will be straight forward there are many quite trivial issues involved such as the order, whether to abbreviate or not, what units to use, what abbreviations to use that I am currently not familiar with. I mentioned it hoping that someone with the pre-existing knowledge to deal with the issue would notice; as it was I was just as likely to change to a different - if more consistent - incorrect presentation of the units as to "fix" the problem. Guest9999 (talk) 00:05, 8 June 2008 (UTC)
- Well I've given it a go. Guest9999 (talk) 00:29, 8 June 2008 (UTC)
- That's great. I have rather stupidly overcommitted, with Ant at FAC and other things. FA and GA food articles are thin on the ground and it'd be a shame to lose one. My mother has a library of cookbooks that I will try to get some refs from. Now tehre are teh online references..Cheers, Casliber (talk · contribs) 04:02, 8 June 2008 (UTC)
- Well I've given it a go. Guest9999 (talk) 00:29, 8 June 2008 (UTC)
- I will try and brush up on the relevant guidelines for units. Whilst you say it will be straight forward there are many quite trivial issues involved such as the order, whether to abbreviate or not, what units to use, what abbreviations to use that I am currently not familiar with. I mentioned it hoping that someone with the pre-existing knowledge to deal with the issue would notice; as it was I was just as likely to change to a different - if more consistent - incorrect presentation of the units as to "fix" the problem. Guest9999 (talk) 00:05, 8 June 2008 (UTC)
- OK, here's the thing Guest9999. I am glad you have pointed this out. Now, as at least the order of units should be pretty straightforward to fix, it would be great if you could get stuck in and help fix these too. I didn't write this article - at FAR, many of the original contributors are no longer active or may not be able or willing to keep the article at FA status, so hence no-one will (likely) take responsibility for making sure this one survives FAR. If you could chip in it would be extremely helpful. Cheers, Casliber (talk · contribs) 22:29, 6 June 2008 (UTC)
