Wikipedia:Featured article removal candidates/Xenu
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[edit] Xenu
- Withdrawn / illigitimate. Article is still a featured article.
According to "Wikipedia:What is a featured article?" to become a featured article it needs the following attributes,
- "It is well written, comprehensive, factually accurate, neutral, and stable"
In my opinion this article is far from fullfilling those requirements. "many of the volcanoes named by Hubbard did not exist 75 million years ago" "set four quadrillion years ago (roughly 300,000 times longer than current scientific consensus holds the age of the universe to be)"
OK, so those quotes are from the article itself, but dont they support my conclusion that the overall article about Xenu is not factually accurate -- added anonymously 05:45, 14 April 2006 by user JACurran (talk • contribs • count)
- Speedy keep. No, those quotes do not support your conclusion. They merely go to show that the Xenu story itself is not true. The Xenu article isn't trying to assert that the Xenu story itself is accurate. It merely asserts that the Xenu story is a story that is taught to Scientologists. And that fact is accurate. Vivaldi 10:57, 14 April 2006 (UTC)
- Speedy keep, per Vivaldi. The prose is good, though some short paragraphs could profitably be merged to avoid chopiness; the referencing is solid, though several inline hyperlinks would be better off as footnotes. Anville 11:30, 14 April 2006 (UTC)
- Keep next our hearts, what Vivaldi said. This listing seems to be based on a misunderstanding. A more cogent objection to Featured status would be "article can be misunderstood", then. I wouldn't advocate removing it on that score, I think it's great, but perhaps its editors would consider dotting the i's and crossing the t's a bit more in the lead section? It is a little deadpan. Admittedly that quality is also a big reason why the article is so funny. I'm not asking for the first sentence, "In Scientology doctrine, Xenu (also Xemu) is an alien ruler of the "Galactic Confederacy" who, 75 million years ago, brought billions of people to Earth, stacked them around volcanoes and blew them up with hydrogen bombs", to read "In Scientology doctrine BUT NOT REALLY, Xenu (also Xemu) is an alien ruler" etc. But would more focus on the fictionality of Xenu in some subtler way be possible? Bishonen | talk 11:33, 14 April 2006 (UTC).
- Keep: Given that this is mythos, I don't think that we can say "this is fiction" without losing NPOV. Tom Cruise thinks that this stuff really happened, and he's the Most Important Man in the World. John Travolta thinks it's true, and he is Cool. I.e. if we do emphasize the absurdity of these claims, those who accept it will have big arguments, and if we don't, we have some people who can misunderstand our position. I think the article does a good job of reporting from a distance on a set of truly silly claims. Geogre 12:53, 14 April 2006 (UTC)
- Speedy Keep - ignoring that, definitively, this is one of our best articles, I don't see how this is a legit FARC and I'm tempted to nuke it myself. --Jeffrey O. Gustafson - Shazaam! - <*> 16:19, 14 April 2006 (UTC)
- Keep then, the concensus seems to be for a keep so I wont stand in the way --JACurran 19:46, 14 April 2006 (UTC)