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[edit] Therion (band)
Fully described band, its history, discography, members and other aspects, such as symbols references. Visor 19:49, 8 June 2006 (UTC)
- Object due to lack of proper inline footnote referencing. Please see WP:FOOTNOTE. — Wackymacs 19:55, 8 June 2006 (UTC)
- Object for the same reasons. I have added a couple places where citations would be necessary; of particular importance is anything that is subjective (saying music was progressive or not typical of the norm and the claim about their relationship with the record label, for example). I didn't read the entire article though, as I figured it was enough to give you an idea of how strict a standard FAs are held to. Good work overall though. Moulder 20:33, 8 June 2006 (UTC)
- Comment. To Wackymacs and Moulder: I've added some references, but... There is no need to add reference for every fact in biography section. Two main sources are included in "Reference" section (in additional subsection "Main references") and you can find all of these facts there. Visor 21:29, 8 June 2006 (UTC)
- How is the reader to know this? — Wackymacs 07:58, 9 June 2006 (UTC)
- Comment. To Wackymacs and Moulder: I've added some references, but... There is no need to add reference for every fact in biography section. Two main sources are included in "Reference" section (in additional subsection "Main references") and you can find all of these facts there. Visor 21:29, 8 June 2006 (UTC)
- Object. Too much history, not enough mention of the significance of the band. As an encyclopedia article, it needs to address the general reader, and the general reader's question "Why should I care?" is not answered here. zafiroblue05 | Talk 23:57, 8 June 2006 (UTC)
- Object. As per above, but also the article fails to meet the brilliant prose criteria. Several statements are informal or just approaching rough/bad English. I don't have the time right at the moment to enumerate them all, but I will later. Citations are missing from several claims. For instance, the following requires sourcing:
- "Of Darkness... can be seen as a progressive death metal album in that it contained mainly influences that were not standard to death metal at the time. The lyrics were very political, in the vein of Napalm Death and other 80's hardcore punk bands."
- "The record Beyond Sanctorum shows a more experimental edge to the music.."
- "As a death metal record it was very experimental, incorporating elements of jazz, industrial music, traditional 1980's heavy metal and religious chanting. This new record scared many death metal fans off the band, but the band developed a small following who appreciated the change and innovation the band had created."
- Those are just a few examples. Also the Metal and symphony era (1996-present) is way too long. It needs a fair bit of trimming and summarization in order to balance out all the sections.
- Also, there is no mention of the band's influences or significance.Wisdom89 18:06, 9 June 2006 (UTC)
