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The following is an archived discussion of a featured article nomination. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the article's talk page or in Wikipedia talk:Featured article candidates. No further edits should be made to this page.

The article was not promoted 04:36, 22 January 2008.

[edit] St Buryan

Nominator Mammal4 (talk) 14:06, 17 January 2008 (UTC)

Check external links

I'm nominating this article for featured article because...

  • I have wanted for some time to bring this article up to featured article status, and feel that its now good enough to give it a shot.
  • Until recently St Buryan was listed as a good article but was downgraded by another editor requesting further referencing. I have addressed these concerns, and added extra material to the text on the advice of others who have worked on geography articles that have passed FA assessment (here). With the extra work I now think that it is worth skipping GA and going straight for FA status.
  • Peer review was also requested for this article, and I have addressed the few points that were raised there
  • I feel that St Buryan would be a suitable FA candidate in terms of subject matter as it is not dissimilar to Chew Valley, an existing geography FA about a similar sized location.

Whatever the final outcome I thank the reviewers for their time and effort.


Mammal4 (talk) 14:06, 17 January 2008 (UTC)

  • Comment I've done a bit of MOS tidying up. But all the refs ought to use the {{citeweb}} template particularly to list the publisher, date and accessdate. Peanut4 (talk) 16:30, 17 January 2008 (UTC)
    • There is no requirement to use citeweb (some editors find them helpful, while others [such as myself] find them cumbersome), but the references do need cleaning up. Authors, publishers, retrieval dates, etc. should be included. Listing a URL with a title is not enough. Note that clicking on ref 38 (Bus timetables) results in a 404 error. BuddingJournalist 21:49, 17 January 2008 (UTC)
  • By the way, per the FAC instructions, "an article should not be on Featured article candidates and peer review or Good article candidates at the same time." BuddingJournalist 21:51, 17 January 2008 (UTC)
Ok - I will try and sort out these reference problems. I may message you on your talk page if that is Ok, as I am a little fuzzy about the correct format for weblinks and also how the 'retrieved' thing works Mammal4 (talk) 11:58, 18 January 2008 (UTC)
  1. Page nos needed for refs 13, 14 "a b c d e f g h i j k l JM Hosking, 2002. People Places & Past Events in St Buryan. ISBN 0-9501296-5-8 ;Thorn, Caroline & Frank [eds.], 1979. Domesday book: Cornwall. Phillimore, Chichester. ISBN 0-85033-155-2" ; 19 "^ Encyclopedia Britannica (1911) vol. V19 "Biography of William Noy" ; 20 "Stone, John Frederick Matthias Harris, 1912. England's Riviera: a topographical and archæological description of Land's End, Cornwall and adjacent spots of beauty and interest. Kegan Paul Trench, Trubner & Co., London."; 21 "Olson, Lynette, 1989. Early monasteries in Cornwall. Boydell. ISBN 0-85115-478-6". 26 "Lewis Topographical Dictionary of England - 1831 "
  2. REf 24: "Exeter Episc. Regs" What is it????
  3. WP:UNDUE to St. Buryan primary school in "Education".
Comment Um - St Buryan primary school is the only current educational facility in the parish, so by necessity it dominates the section, unless I have misunderstood your meaning of undue weight? Perhaps I should make this clearer in the text Mammal4 (talk) 16:44, 21 January 2008 (UTC)
  1. "Twentieth century" has no references.
  2. Image:Voicecornwall.jpg needs fair use rationale
Comment Have changed image to one with clearer copyright statusMammal4 (talk) 16:47, 21 January 2008 (UTC)

Only some issues listed. Not taken a close look.--Redtigerxyz (talk) 12:26, 21 January 2008 (UTC)

  • Comment This article is nice but there are a few areas you may wish to consider.
  • In the infobox "Dwellings" is blank - is this deliberate?
  • The standard for this article seems to be imperial(metric) - which seems appropriate, but in the Bronze and Iron age we find a passage turning left after a few "metres" with no imperial conversion.
  • History jumps from Bronze & Iron ages to middle ages - History of Cornwall describes activity in the roman era - is any of it relevant to St Buryan?
  • The history of the 20th century is completely unreferenced & the Industrial revolution section needs more supporting citations re China Clay etc
  • Could the phrase "economically inviable" be clarified?
  • The population change graph has an external link in the caption - could this be made into a reference?
  • The fourth classroom in the school is mentioned in both 20th century history & education sections
  • The history of the school is unsupported by citations
  • The section on the church says its grade I listed but this is not supported see Church of Saint Buryan at IoE
  • The IoE site shows 144 listed buildings in the parish - some of which might be worth a mention
  • In the media section, the caption "The Voice of Cornwall" is not very clear & should include the name of "Brenda Wootton" who is described as "famous" - these things are relative.
  • In government and politics would it be worth adding the Westminster & European constituencies which the village forms a part of?

There may be other issues, which I haven't spotted yet but I think most of these are fairly minor & could be fixed without too much effort.— Rod talk 21:50, 21 January 2008 (UTC)

  • Please review the unresolved external links. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 01:23, 22 January 2008 (UTC)
The above discussion is preserved as an archive. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the article's talk page or in Wikipedia talk:Featured article candidates. No further edits should be made to this page.