Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Slay Tracks (1933-1969)

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The following is an archived discussion of a featured article nomination. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the article's talk page or in Wikipedia talk:Featured article candidates. No further edits should be made to this page.

The article was promoted 22:39, 7 January 2008.

[edit] Slay Tracks (1933-1969)

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Self nomination I believe that this article, about the debut EP of the indie rock band Pavement, meets all of the featured article criteria. The article is extremely comprehensive given the relatively obscure subject matter, well referenced, and well written. This is the first of the Pavement releases that I hope to bring to GA/FA status. Thanks for all comments. --Brandt Luke Zorn (talk) 04:13, 1 January 2008 (UTC)

  • Support Great written article, very interesting. Burningclean [Speak the truth!] 19:58, 1 January 2008 (UTC)
  • Comments
  • , then consisting of only founding
  • during a single four hour session.
  • It was also met with
  • single for $1,000 - [[United States dollar|$]] on first mention
  • Young, though bewildered by the band's sound, also contributed by playing drums - also is redundant
  • R.E.M. (band) has been moved to R.E.M.
  • Malkmus also told Melody Maker - also is redundant because it is the first thing from Melody Maker
  • Reference 34 is a fansite
  • For reference 11 "MUSIC; A Thinking Slacker's - MUSIC should be in lowercase

Feel free to disagree M3tal H3ad (talk) 03:52, 2 January 2008 (UTC)

  • Also "He later recalled that " - "recalled" implies later, thus making "later" redundant M3tal H3ad (talk) 04:11, 2 January 2008 (UTC)
    • All of these are Y Done, except for the fan site reference, which I believe should stand. Matador Records links to the fan site here, which shows that Pavement's label believes that the information on it is reliable. --Brandt Luke Zorn (talk) 04:46, 2 January 2008 (UTC)
Weak support I still don't believe the information is reliable, more like it was added to the links so fans have something interesting to read. The source of the information seems to come from randoms rather than reliable sources, which read "(thank you to jason, Lawerence KS)(thank you to andrew and max k), and there is a section on rumors which had been sent to the person who created the webpage. Other than that it's a great article, good job. M3tal H3ad (talk) 06:26, 2 January 2008 (UTC)

Comment - did a minor copy-edit myself [1]. Some issues I still have:

  • beginning with a ZZ Top-inspired jam - this is clearly an opinion that needs to be cited to an individual (i mean, XYZ said that he felt...)
    • I couldn't find a way to word this, so I took out the ZZ Top part. --Brandt Luke Zorn (talk) 04:15, 3 January 2008 (UTC)
  • is influenced by Chrome, Swell Maps, and The Fall. - again according to whom?
    • Y Done
  • move to Box Elder, Montana,[11] is considered an example of Malkmus's "honest, direct, and simplistic" lyrical style - considered by whom. (I think whenever Jovanovic states an opinion, you have not attributed his name to it)
    • Y Done
  • The 2nd paragraph of the music section contains 4 uses of the word "influence".
  • Young drummed on "Box Elder" and "Price Yeah!", and much of his playing was improvised; Malkmus played on "Maybe Maybe" and Malkmus and Kannberg both drummed on "She Believes". - I suggest you rewrite that.
    • Y Done
  • is a link to discogs allowed in Wikipedia? You could argue that it is advertising for that website. Also, they display album covers etc without permission.
Indopug (talk) 20:11, 2 January 2008 (UTC)

Support - Excellent research on a really obscure record. Just a few nitpicks:

  • are musicianguide, stormloader and scaruffi reliable? WP:Albums says no I think.
    • Scaruffi is confirmed to be reliable. Stormloader is a fan site, but seems to be reliable as Matador Records poins to it as a reliable Pavement live guide. So far I think I'm the only person who has used Musicianguide, which features band biographies in a manner similar to All Music Guide, but it appears reliable. --Brandt Luke Zorn (talk) 03:29, 5 January 2008 (UTC)
  • Two of the external links are not 100%.
    • Y Done

Apart from that, great job!

indopug (talk) 07:58, 4 January 2008 (UTC)
The above discussion is preserved as an archive. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the article's talk page or in Wikipedia talk:Featured article candidates. No further edits should be made to this page.