Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Reign in Blood

The following is an archived discussion of a featured article nomination. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the article's talk page or in Wikipedia talk:Featured article candidates. No further edits should be made to this page.

The article was promoted 03:52, 21 April 2007.

[edit] Reign in Blood

This article is on an album, completely re-written by myself with useful feedback back provided on the two peer-reviews. It once looked like this and was promoted to GA a few months ago, over the last two days i made some minor tweaks like copyediting, formatting, pictures etc. I did my best copy editing the article using Tony's guides and help from Ceoil awhile back. If you have any objections i will be happy to fix them asap, thanks :). M3tal H3ad 09:11, 8 April 2007 (UTC)

• Conditional support- The article seems overall good it's well referenced and it's quite informative; images need to be tweaked to avoid them taking space of more than one section and some tweaks are needed with the with the writting. -凶 00:20, 9 April 2007 (UTC)

What specific images? M3tal H3ad 04:59, 9 April 2007 (UTC)

• Mostly this one [1] cause it's pushing the text in the first paragraph down, and this[2] one cause it's in the middle of two sections. -凶 05:23, 9 April 2007 (UTC)

What's your resolution?, I'll change it to yours so i can see it and fix it, thanks. M3tal H3ad 05:45, 9 April 2007 (UTC)

I think our best solution to this would be getting rid of the image. As the article doesn't discuss his appearance in the music video but just that it led the band to meet Glen E. Friedman, it's not worthy of a fair use claim. Michaelas10^{Respect my authoritah} 10:37, 9 April 2007 (UTC)

Slayer met Friedman because of his appearance in the video, Friedman introduced them to Rick Rubin, one three second appearance led them to meet their producer for the next 20 years "in which Araya had a made a guest appearance in the music video for the album's single "Institutionalized", pushing Suicidal Tendencies's vocalist Mike Muir. Around this time Rubin asked Friedman if he knew Slayer." it does dicuss it but briefly. M3tal H3ad 11:15, 9 April 2007 (UTC)

No, it only discusses how it led them to meet Friedman, not the music video's content itself. This might be relevant in the single's article, but here it's used merely for decoration. Michaelas10^{Respect my authoritah} 12:30, 9 April 2007 (UTC)

• Oppose Support. Still needs copyediting. Comments:

• The song was also featured... - The article just discussed "Angel of Death", not "Raining Blood".
• The band decided they... - Did they decide it when it was originally suggested by the booking agency? Reword to The band ultimately decided they....
• ...who along with photographer Glen E. Friedman, agreed to attend one of the band's concerts - unnecessary comma.
• Q magazine ranked Reign in Blood among their list of the "50 Heaviest Albums of All Time",[13] and was ranked #67 on Spin Magazine's "100 Greatest Albums, 1985-2005." - Reword either part of the sentence.
• Image captions containing complete sentences should end with a period.
• The album became Slayer's first to enter the Billboard 200, were it peaked at number 94, and attained gold certification in 1992. - "where".
• ...under the same name > ...with the same name.
• Describing the album in their "The Greatest Metal Bands Of All Time" poll, MTV wrote Slayer's... - "Describing the album" redundant.

• Please contact Ceoil again. Michaelas10^{Respect my authoritah} 12:30, 9 April 2007 (UTC)

Most of the things you mentioned were a result of the copy edit by myself and Ceoil yesterday, but they're fixed and I'll give it another read. M3tal H3ad 12:44, 9 April 2007 (UTC)

Ok, i gave it a copyedit [3] I'll take another look in the morning. M3tal H3ad 13:35, 9 April 2007 (UTC)

Still some issues. I'd copyedit it myself. Michaelas10^{Respect my authoritah} 15:05, 9 April 2007 (UTC)

There we go. Michaelas10^{Respect my authoritah} 16:07, 9 April 2007 (UTC)

Thanks :), with images do you believe Image:Slayer - south of heaven back.jpg would be fair use here? which is covered in this paragraph - "Following the agreement, Friedman brought the band members to Seattle for two days of publicity shots, possible record shots, and photos for a tour book; Rubin felt no good photos of the band have been taken before that point. One of the photos was used on the back cover of the band's 1988 release South of Heaven." M3tal H3ad 01:30, 10 April 2007 (UTC)

Wouldn't fit as well due to the exact same reasons. Fair use criteria are getting stricter, and we should only use copyrighted image when they are highly significant to the article. I think not having an image there would be fine. Michaelas10^{Respect my authoritah} 19:08, 11 April 2007 (UTC)

• Comment I moved the image it looks well in my resolution how is it in yours? as a side note perhaps the caption can be shortened by adding some of the text to the article. -凶 14:02, 9 April 2007 (UTC)
• Support Very informative and well written. Cricket02 19:32, 11 April 2007 (UTC)
• Support (Disclaimer as a Slayer project member); but am satisfied that this the article meets each criteria. Great work, again, M3tal H3ad. Ceoil 14:29, 15 April 2007 (UTC)
• Support as Slayer Project member. I think the article is real informative and accessible also. LuciferMorgan 09:42, 16 April 2007 (UTC)
• Comment The "live performances" section is slightly confusing. "King later said that while the idea was suggested prior to the DVD by their booking agency, it was met with little support. The band ultimately decided they needed to add more excitement to their live shows, and to avoid repetition incorporated the ideas" This is referring the fake falling blood, right? If so, the first sentence of the paragraph should be modified so that it is clear. WesleyDodds 09:19, 17 April 2007 (UTC)

It was referring to playing the album in its entirety, clarified it now - thanks :) M3tal H3ad 10:16, 17 April 2007 (UTC)

No, it meant to the blood effects. I originally wrote that section. Michaelas¹⁰ 15:25, 17 April 2007 (UTC)

Hanneman came up with the idea to use the blood, not the booking agency [4] M3tal H3ad 02:27, 18 April 2007 (UTC)

One more minor nitpick: When asked about using fake blood in future performances, King remarked he "Would imagine we did it and it's time to move on, but never say never. This sentence is somewhat awkward. I recommend removing the beginning of the quote ("Would imagine we did it"); it seems unnecessary. WesleyDodds 09:52, 18 April 2007 (UTC)

Fixed. M3tal H3ad 10:02, 18 April 2007 (UTC)

• Support. Well-written and comprehensive. CloudNine 11:45, 20 April 2007 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the article's talk page or in Wikipedia talk:Featured article candidates. No further edits should be made to this page.