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[edit] Race of Jesus

Intereseting topic, and has been added and improved to become, in my opinion, featured article material. IF it makes it, give the medal to User:V. Molotov (creator of article). Thanks. Oh, anf if two editors debate all of the sudden, block both of them. I am editting under an IP now, because I pretty much got tired of Wikipedia. 65.35.197.181 23:18, 7 November 2005 (UTC)

  • Conditional support, the article is a good read. Fair use rationales and sources are necessary for the fair use images in the article. Please convert html links in the text to footnotes (I can only see one that isn't done). And the date fields need to be filled in of the web reference template or they say Date, Month, Year.--nixie 02:25, 8 November 2005 (UTC)
  • Object:
    1. The image Image:RFJesus.jpg has no source information or fair-use rationale.
    2. The image Image:Blackjesus05.jpg has no source information.
    3. The image Image:Sturmer Nordic Jesus.JPG has no fair-use rationale. See Wikipedia:Fair use and Wikipedia:Image description page#Fair use rationale for what's needed.
    --Carnildo 06:57, 8 November 2005 (UTC)
    I want to first state that you are probably the most unfriendly person I have encountered here. Also, all image sources have been fixed. εγκυκλοπαίδεια* 23:38, 27 December 2005 (UTC)
  • Object; same issues as Carnildo. —Bunchofgrapes (talk) 16:15, 8 November 2005 (UTC)
After some research I was able to correct some of the problems. 65.35.197.181 16:30, 8 November 2005 (UTC)
Objection stands; The only change seems to have been changing BlackJesus.JPG from fair-use to public-domain, still with no indication of what the source of the image is, which is needed to support the contention that it is in fact public domain. —Bunchofgrapes (talk) 23:06, 8 November 2005 (UTC)
  • Support. PedanticallySpeaking 17:58, 8 November 2005 (UTC)
  • Support. 65.35.197.181 05:36, 9 November 2005 (UTC)
  • Object. There are hardly any references. NatusRoma 06:22, 9 November 2005 (UTC)
  • Support 131.247.142.109 18:56, 9 November 2005 (UTC)
  • Object, per Carnildo, andBunchofgrapes. Jkelly 22:34, 9 November 2005 (UTC)
  • Object. Needs many more references, atricle suffers heavily from use of weasel words. Definitely a good start, and an impressive achievement for its chief creator, V. Molotov—though, as a side-note, I'd be slightly more comfortable with it if he didn't feel a need to create a sockpuppet account, User:65.35.197.181, to secretly self-nominate the article. I know he's been pushing for this to become featured article since the day he made it, but a little patience can go a long way. Not that my vote is in any way based on the user's activities; he's a fantastic contributor, this article is a testament to that. It just needs to meet more of the FA requirements. -Silence 00:48, 13 November 2005 (UTC)
As it happens, I am the main contributor, having written about half of the current text. I don't think it is ready to be a featured article, but could get there. Could you explain on the talk page what "weasel words" you find problematic. Paul B 13:51, 16 November 2005 (UTC)
I didn't use a sock puppet account, I am used this because I LEFT WIKIPEDIA. I hate when people make accusations against me. It is not like I turned around and voted under both my IP and user name. 65.35.197.181 15:06, 14 November 2005 (UTC)
  • Object for the same reasons stated above. Additionally, some important context seems to be missing. The debate over Jesus' race was part of an attempt to domesticise Christ within different ethnic traditions (note the connection of the question with missionary activity and early theories of racial difference). This is a good beginning, but not yet ready to stand as a FA. Dottore So 18:12, 13 November 2005 (UTC)
Please explain on the talk page what "important context" is missing. It would be a great help. Paul B 13:51, 16 November 2005 (UTC)
I promise to all of you, that I will try my best to get this up to featured article standards, even if that is what I do for the rest of my time here on Wikipedia. εγκυκλοπαίδεια* (talk) 15:58, 6 December 2005 (UTC)

I PLAN TO DO MAJOR UPDATES ON THIS ARTICLE IN THE NEAR FUTURE!!!!! εγκυκλοπαίδεια* (talk) 16:53, 10 December 2005 (UTC) 20:25, 13 December 2005 (UTC)

Never mind the above. εγκυκλοπαίδεια* 06:05, 21 December 2005 (UTC)

Article has NOW BEEN CLEANED of bad images, OTHER ARTICLES HAVE TWO REFERENCES BUT THEY WERE ALLOWED ON THE FRONT PAGE - THE ONE ON THE FRONT PAGE NOW HAS ONLY SEVEN WHAT YOUY ARE SAYING MAKES NO SENSE!!!!! I THINK THAT THE WHOLE IDEA OF RACE INTERTWINED WITH JESUS IS TOO MUCH FOR YOU ALLεγκυκλοπαίδεια* 05:37, 28 December 2005 (UTC)

And guess what Richard O'Connor this has no citation on it. I have gotten very upset by reading this. εγκυκλοπαίδεια* 05:42, 28 December 2005 (UTC)

Note that I was not trying to insult these articles, but only to state that these points are off target. εγκυκλοπαίδεια* 05:59, 28 December 2005 (UTC)