Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Princess Helena of the United Kingdom

The following is an archived discussion of a featured article nomination. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the article's talk page or in Wikipedia talk:Featured article candidates. No further edits should be made to this page.

The article was promoted 02:29, 3 March 2008.

[edit] Princess Helena of the United Kingdom

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Self nomination I'm nominating this article for featured article because it has been reviewed against the FA criteria by Mav (talk · contribs) and SGGH (talk · contribs), who made a few suggestions but confirmed that it was ready to be listed. Any further comments and suggestions will be addressed as swiftly as possible. Thanks, PeterSymonds | talk 22:59, 25 February 2008 (UTC)

• Support As I said in PR, this is great article that is well-cited, comprehensive and a good read. --mav (talk) 01:53, 26 February 2008 (UTC)

• Support Please change the pronoun in the sentence "She also argued that it would reduce the already low popularity..." to the named individual concerned (I presume Alice). The previous sentence begins with Alexandra and the use of a pronoun is confusing. Please re-phrase "Helena gave an English version thoroughly alive"; that doesn't seem to make sense. Thanks—another great article. DrKiernan (talk) 18:30, 26 February 2008 (UTC):

Thanks for the comments. I've addressed the confusing pronoun, as it was referring to the Crown Princess of Prussia. The second was a paraphrase of a quote, so it should be more clear now. PeterSymonds | talk 21:39, 26 February 2008 (UTC)

• Support Beautifully illustrated, brilliant prose - a masterpiece.--GrahamColm^Talk 19:51, 28 February 2008 (UTC)
• In the latter, Prussia and Austria defeated Denmark, and gave the annexed Duchies of Schleswig and Holstein, formerly the personal property of Danish kings, to Christian's family.
  • At best misleading; Prussia and Austria retained the duchies de facto and fought the Austro-Prussian War over them; they became Prussian.
  • Since we have two Christians here, explaining the relationship between them would be useful. Septentrionalis PMAnderson 05:15, 29 February 2008 (UTC)
    • This has been reworded; a distinct improvement. It is my recollection that the Duchies were occupied by both Austria and Prussia (one each), but it may not be useful to go to that level of detail; fuzziness may be attainable without inaccuracy. Septentrionalis PMAnderson 17:35, 29 February 2008 (UTC)

• Notes: pls doublecheck WP:MOS#Ellipses, WP:MOS#Images on left-aligned images below third-level section headings, there's a red-linked image, and I saw a citation that is missing a publisher. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 18:12, 29 February 2008 (UTC)
  • Thanks for the comments. The images have been reformatted, and that redlinked image has been removed for the time being. It was on the Commons and was deleted, but I requested its restoration because the source was present and correct. The Heraldica ref has been properly formatted now (it wasn't added by me). What's wrong with the ellipses? From what I understand, the simple "..." is the most recommended way to format them? PeterSymonds | talk 18:38, 29 February 2008 (UTC)
    • I think they were missing the requisite spaces and nbsps per the guideline. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 19:12, 29 February 2008 (UTC)
      • Spaces on either side of ellipses is the sort of technical detail which should be left to the taste of the editor; MOS should discuss it, but I doubt they should prescribe; we should not require.
      • Use non-breaking spaces ( ) only as needed to prevent improper line breaks. I see only one ellipsis, and it does not appear likely to break. Septentrionalis PMAnderson 19:20, 29 February 2008 (UTC)

• Support. Well-written and well-cited. One sentence is a bit awkward: "Therefore, the marriage horrified Alexandra, Princess of Wales, the daughter of King Christian of Denmark, who exclaimed: “The Duchies belong to Papa.”[24]" Maybe this would be clearer: "The marriage, therefore, horrified King Christian of Denmark's daughter, Alexandra, Princess of Wales, who exclaimed: “The Duchies belong to Papa.”[24]" Either way, I support promoting this article to FA. Coemgenus 22:03, 29 February 2008 (UTC)
  • Thanks for the comments. I've changed the sentence based on your suggestion. Best thanks, PeterSymonds | talk 22:10, 29 February 2008 (UTC)

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