Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/New York State Route 28
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[edit] New York State Route 28
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I am nominating this article on behalf of WP:NYSR, who did a great job on this. After some copyediting and several tweaks, I feel this article meets all the criteria. Comments are welcome. Thanks, Juliancolton Tropical Cyclone 13:17, 1 June 2008 (UTC)
Comments - I remain a bit concerned about this source: http://www.gribblenation.net/nyroutes/images/photos/routes/087i/087i-09975n.jpg, but given the not exactly earthshaking nature of the sourced information, it's not a big priority. Otherwise, sources look good, links checked out with the link checker tool. Ealdgyth - Talk 14:38, 1 June 2008 (UTC)
- Since it's just an image, I don't know how unreliable it can be. I'll try to find another source. Good to hear the rest of the links are good. :) Juliancolton Tropical Cyclone 14:43, 1 June 2008 (UTC)
- It's not so much that that picture itself wouldn't be considered a reliable source, but the bald link to a picture without any text surrounding it, it's hard to be sure that this is a picture of the exit in question. Did that explain it a bit better? Ealdgyth - Talk 15:01, 1 June 2008 (UTC)
- Ah, I understand. That little tab on the top-right of the sign shows the exit number, but I don't know if that makes a difference. Juliancolton Tropical Cyclone 15:04, 1 June 2008 (UTC)
- Yeah, but It's still not clear that the picture is of that particular interstate, although nothing says it's incorrect either. Like I said, it's not a big big deal, but something that might be bettered. Ealdgyth - Talk 15:10, 1 June 2008 (UTC)
- Even though the information isn't amazingly informative, I think we should take it down until we have a better source. Not much is lost but respectability is gained! :) Awadewit (talk) 18:03, 1 June 2008 (UTC)
- Alrigt, source removed. Juliancolton Tropical Cyclone 18:30, 1 June 2008 (UTC)
- Even though the information isn't amazingly informative, I think we should take it down until we have a better source. Not much is lost but respectability is gained! :) Awadewit (talk) 18:03, 1 June 2008 (UTC)
- Yeah, but It's still not clear that the picture is of that particular interstate, although nothing says it's incorrect either. Like I said, it's not a big big deal, but something that might be bettered. Ealdgyth - Talk 15:10, 1 June 2008 (UTC)
- Ah, I understand. That little tab on the top-right of the sign shows the exit number, but I don't know if that makes a difference. Juliancolton Tropical Cyclone 15:04, 1 June 2008 (UTC)
- It's not so much that that picture itself wouldn't be considered a reliable source, but the bald link to a picture without any text surrounding it, it's hard to be sure that this is a picture of the exit in question. Did that explain it a bit better? Ealdgyth - Talk 15:01, 1 June 2008 (UTC)
Leaning towards support The article has a very detailed description of the route that is relatively easy to follow. Since I don't usually review road articles, I have a few questions:
I think there should be a caption under the map indicating that NY 28 is the red line. Currently, you have to click on the map to see the legend.
Esopus Creek turns south here; however, it continues northwest along Birch Creek to the former village (now hamlet) of Pine Hill. - This is confusing. The creek turns both south and northwest?
These images are not very inspiring, I must say. Is there any way to obtain images of significant places along the route, such as where it first leaves a waterway, Cooperstown, the only part not maintained by NYSDOT, a view of the Adirondack Mountains, or perhaps the terminus?
Have there been any major construction projects or improvements to this road during its history other than what is listed in the "Realignments"? It would seem that such information would be important for the article.
Thanks for taking the time to painstakingly detail these local roads! Awadewit (talk) 18:01, 1 June 2008 (UTC)
- Hi, thanks for the comments. Unfortunately, there's not much I can do about the map. I fixed that senetence about the creek. While the images aren't very good, they're image, and I don't think I'll be able to get better ones for several months. About the history, state rioads generally don't have a lot of information about constructions projects, so alignmtents and realignments are propbably the best we can do. Juliancolton Tropical Cyclone 18:30, 1 June 2008 (UTC)
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- I'm not sure why you can't add a caption to the map. What is restricting that function?
- It would be nice to obtain better images in the future, but I understand that is hard to do.
- I wonder if state budgets and government hearings would have information on construction projects? That seems like the kind of source you would have to go to for that. Awadewit (talk) 18:48, 1 June 2008 (UTC)
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- I don't have the computer programing (nor the knowledge of where to get it) to create, update or adjust maps. WP:USRD/MTF is where maps a made, so I'll reguest a new one right away. When I get a chance, I'll look into trying to find more info on history. Juliancolton Tropical Cyclone 21:09, 1 June 2008 (UTC)
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- You should not have to adjust the map itself, only the caption, which can be changed in the infobox. Awadewit (talk) 21:10, 1 June 2008 (UTC)
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- Ah, I see. Alright, I tried to add a caption to the map. Let me know if it's any better. Juliancolton Tropical Cyclone 22:49, 1 June 2008 (UTC)
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Support Has some minor wording issues in my opinion, but nothing besides that is restrictive in terms of FAC. TheNobleSith (talk) 21:52, 1 June 2008 (UTC)
Comments
Gary King (talk) 02:02, 3 June 2008 (UTC)
- Fixed the first and third comment. If I reworded that sentence, it would change the meaning, as the turnpike went east of the river as well. Juliancolton Tropical Cyclone 13:52, 3 June 2008 (UTC)
