Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Kung Fu Hustle

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The following is an archived discussion of a featured article nomination. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the article's talk page or in Wikipedia talk:Featured article candidates. No further edits should be made to this page.

The article was promoted 02:07, 1 June 2007.

[edit] Kung Fu Hustle

Self Nomination: The article of Kung Fu Hustle is currently a Good article. It has been expanded extensively to cover all aspects of production and reception. The plot is simplified with its prose improved and all detail is covered by reliable sources. Therefore, I believe that it has met all FA criteria are met. If there are any fixes needed, please say so that I can quickly correct them.--Kylohk 10:20, 27 May 2007 (UTC)

  • Support, good prose but please fix the following:
    1. Per WP:$ $20,000,000 should be US$20,000,000 or (shortest version in Wikitext, and I'd prefer this:) US$20 million.
    2. "Quitted"?! Spelling.
    3. In Choreography section, where are links for Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon and Shaolin Soccer?
    4. "who were all real martial artists in their own right" - who describes them as "real martial artists"? It's kind of a peacock term. Is the "real" really needed? Or indeed, this entire bit of the sentence? I really don't think so. :)
    5. In Plot section, {{spoiler}} and {{endspoiler}} should be removed because the heading of "Plot" will alert the reader that plot information is contained within the section, making the templates redundant.
    6. "significant Overseas Chinese populations in December 2004" - "overseas" should not be capitalised because it is not part of the race name.

These are minor fixes so I will not hold back from supporting now. Resurgent insurgent 13:16, 27 May 2007 (UTC)

Those minor problems were fixed. Thanks for the information.--Kylohk 14:16, 27 May 2007 (UTC)
  • Support — I'd personally suggest putting the "plot" section ahead of the production info. Otherwise, it's good. (Ibaranoff24 16:19, 27 May 2007 (UTC))
  • Oppose - It may be hard to action, but the prose just doesn't flow enough. The plot section does not make a good read, simply listing short sentences one after another. I mean, just read the last paragraph, its not exactly interesting reading. - hahnchen 17:07, 27 May 2007 (UTC)
    • All right, what do you recommend then?--Kylohk 17:09, 27 May 2007 (UTC)
    • I've rewritten the plot so that the sentences connect more smoothly. If there are any more problems. Please let me know.--Kylohk 19:57, 27 May 2007 (UTC)
  • Oppose for now:
    • Lead has issues:
      • Does not adequately summarize the article, several sections (production, for example; computer game for another) gets little or no treatment in the lead.
      • Lead makes claims that are not adressed in the main text. For example, the lead talks about the "comic book style", which I can find no other mention of in the article; also the lead draws a critical comparison to other works; I find such comparisons made in the text.
    • Organization: Plot analysis (parodies etc. section) should probably directly follow the Plot Synopsis; likewise Cast seems like a production issue and should be closer to that section.
    • Is there a reason no translation is made of the Hungarian title? Needs an English translation to establish context.
    • As mentioned above, we need US$ for all figures quoted in U.S. Dollars, especially in light of the fact that HK$ are also quoted in some sections (sometimes right alongside US figures).
    • The article was released at several well-known film festivals (Toronto and Sundance). Do we have any specific reception from those festivals? Quotes or reviews from those festivals may be helpful here.
    • It may be useful to give the specific US MPAA rating along with the Hong Kong rating, especially since the article does give a lot of treatment to the U.S. release in other areas. While every nation's rating may not be needed, this article does give enough US information that it would seem worthy of mentioning specifically.
This article is close, but needs the above fixes to make it completely compliant with FA standards. If the fixes are made, I will happily support it.--Jayron32|talk|contribs 04:25, 28 May 2007 (UTC)
  • Reply I have made some changes to the articles as you mentioned, which are summarized below:
    • I've added content to the lead so that it should cover everything. The 1st paragraph covers the plot and parodies, the 2nd covers the production and cast, the third covers releases, reception and its computer game. The "comic book style" has been replaced with "cartoon style", and now bears a relation to "Parodies and references" which mention cartoons.
    • As for the Crouching Tiger Hidden Dragon reference, I found a review comparing the film to it and added it to the reception.
    • The cast section has been moved to between production and plot. Then, the parodies section follows the plot.
    • A translation of the Hungarian title is roughly made, it literally means "His Punch Lands".
    • The HK$ have been converted into US$.
    • Roger Ebert's statement in reception has been expanded to indicate that he said it at Sundance.
    • It has been noted that the film was rated R in the United States in the reception section.

I'll post it on your talk page so you know. Cheers--Kylohk 09:17, 28 May 2007 (UTC)

All good except one thing: You misinterpreted what I wanted with the "dollars" thing. The use of Hong Kong dollars for the Hong Kong box office figures IS APPROPRIATE. The issue was the use of the symbols. When you mean "Hong Kong Dollars" you should ALWAYS use "HK$" and when you mean "United States Dollars" you should always use "US$" and, especially in an article that discusses both, should not use "$" by itself as a symbol, since MANY currencies use this symbol; in an encyclopedia for an international audience the use of a plain "$" is ambiguous. --Jayron32|talk|contribs 15:17, 28 May 2007 (UTC)
Very well then, I've added those currencies.--Kylohk 15:27, 28 May 2007 (UTC)
  • Support Changed vote from above. All fixes made. You now have my full support. --Jayron32|talk|contribs 15:40, 28 May 2007 (UTC)
  • Support nicely tweaked since I passed it for GA. cheers, Cas Liber | talk | contribs 11:23, 31 May 2007 (UTC)
  • Comment A separate section for an unreleased computer game smacks of both undue weight and trivia. Consider integrating the info elsewhere. Peter Isotalo 13:03, 31 May 2007 (UTC)
    • I decided to just comment it out for now. There's not much to be said, considering it being a limited release.--Kylohk 15:54, 31 May 2007 (UTC)
The above discussion is preserved as an archive. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the article's talk page or in Wikipedia talk:Featured article candidates. No further edits should be made to this page.