Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Kirby (Nintendo)/archive1

The following is an archived discussion of a featured article nomination. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the article's talk page or in Wikipedia talk:Featured article candidates. No further edits should be made to this page.

The article was not promoted 17:53, 31 August 2007.

[edit] Kirby (Nintendo)

I've been looking after this article for a while now, fixing it up and getting it to GA status back in April. Personally I think that the article could be considered Featured Article status at this point; all of the images have Fair Use Rationales, there are twenty-two references, and all of the specific sections appear to be covered rather well. Kirby may not be as significant as other Nintendo characters, but that doesn't make his article any less worthy of being a Featured Article. Disaster Kirby^Talk 22:41, 4 August 2007 (UTC)

Comment: I've only given the article a cursory glance, but it looks like it's coming along well and you're doing a good job. But I'm afraid the references are not properly formatted; see WP:Ref. Plus, "Kirby's Rainbow Resort" is often used a reference, but it looks quite a bit like an unofficial fansite, and therefore not a reliable source. There are also many stubby paragraphs, especially in the "Other information" section, and several sections seem to be lacking references.--Dark Kubrick 03:30, 5 August 2007 (UTC)

• Oppose. The references need improvement like the comment above says. I also agree about the stubby paragraphs. I'd be more willing to support if these problems are fixed. --RandomOrca2 15:40, 9 August 2007 (UTC)

I notice that the paragraphs are less of a problem now. However, I'll still oppose until the references are replaced to be more reliable. --RandomOrca2 04:00, 21 August 2007 (UTC)

• Conditional support - The "other information" section needs to be 90% cut and 10% incorporated into the other sections. Also, in the appearances section needs to mention where kirby has been seen in popular culture. Judgesurreal777 19:37, 11 August 2007 (UTC)

• Comment—not bad, but needs work to attain the required professional standard of writing. Here are random samples, just from the lead:
• "with the same basic abilities- he can walk,"—no way: either a colon or an em dash. NOT a hyphen. "or" inhale ... There are other examples where hyphens are wrongly used. Read MOS.
• "As such his games"—Comma after "such", please.
• There's an awful lot of "Kirby" in the lead. Rephrase to reduce its occurrence. Tony 01:37, 12 August 2007 (UTC)

Support From what I can see all the problems have been fixed.Rlk89 21:26, 17 August 2007 (UTC)

Support I think some of this can be condensed or trimmed out, but nothing that should keep it from FA status. RaidOverHoboken 06:30, 19 August 2007 (UTC)

Oppose - as Tony said, this needs more copyediting. Some things I noticed:

- "His other friend is one of a few blue fish who works at a bar known as the Blue Fish Bar, who is also one of Kirby's informants." - I'm assuming the bar isn't Kirby's informant.

- "He can be impulsive, such as how he accuses Dedede of interfering with the Fountain of Dreams..." - Could be phrased better.

- "(Which was originally to be titled 'Twinkle Popopo' instead of the current 'Hoshi no Kaabii' or Kirby of the Stars.) - This is a fragment and would be better attached to the previous sentence and taken out of the parentheses.

- In general, a lot of the writing seems choppy and repetitive. One example I noticed was the "Kirby is a character of few words..." paragraph, which contains a lot of "however"s and almost reads like a ping-pong match of fact, however, fact, however, etc. The "In anime, manga, and comics" section has a lot of "Kirby also x" or similarly phrased statements back to back.

Don't get me wrong; this is better by far than the majority of video game articles I've seen. It just needs more polishing. Crystallina 04:50, 21 August 2007 (UTC)

• Oppose, 1c. Reliability of sources can't be evaluated when publishers aren't identified. Please format citations correctly (see WP:CITE/ES). All sources need a publisher, websources need last accessdate, and author and publication date should be provided when available. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 01:18, 31 August 2007 (UTC)

• Oppose until Sandy's concerns are addressed; they go to the heart of the authority of the project.
  • MOS breach in spelling out converted unit.
  • MOS breach in final period of caption that is not a complete sentence.
  • "Personality" finishes with a hanging stub. Merge. There are other stubby paras, too.
  • MOS breach; read em dashes; but should be a comma, probably: "He is also fearless - though other characters". Tony 12:12, 31 August 2007 (UTC)

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