Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Hurricane Dennis

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[edit] Hurricane Dennis

Self-nom, in behalf of WikiProject Tropical cyclones. The article is comprehensive, stable (the end-of-the-year report for the hurricane just came out), and We just fact-checked the entire thing, so it is well-sourced (and formatted per the Footnote3 format). Compared with the other hurricane articles from this season, this one is not as notable as Hurricane Katrina, Hurricane Rita or Hurricane Wilma, which still have a few edit wars going on; this article has none. So, I'll put the article under consideration for FA status. Titoxd(?!? - did you read this?) 02:24, 15 December 2005 (UTC)

  • Comment subheadings need to be removed. =Nichalp «Talk»= 04:05, 15 December 2005 (UTC)
    • Done. Titoxd(?!? - did you read this?) 04:10, 15 December 2005 (UTC)
      • Thanks. Some more tweaks needed: 1. Use the non breaking space   between a number and its unit eg: 150 kmph. I've done one for you. 2. Please give the metric and UTC equivalents for all measures. 3. Remove text in parenthesis ie. make it flow with the text. 4. Please do not use left aligned images at the start of a new section 5. NHC?? 6. The text is mostly US oriented, could you expand the Cuba part in =Storm history=? =Nichalp «Talk»= 04:24, 15 December 2005 (UTC)
        • I'm not sure how much I can find about Cuba, but I'm working on the rest of them now. Titoxd(?!? - did you read this?) 04:28, 15 December 2005 (UTC)
          • That gif image needs to be converted to a png =Nichalp «Talk»= 05:08, 15 December 2005 (UTC)
            • I'm done with the first few suggestions, and I added a bit of information about the hurricane warnings in Cuba. I'll work on converting the GIF now. Titoxd(?!? - did you read this?) 05:12, 15 December 2005 (UTC)
            • Done. Titoxd(?!? - did you read this?) 05:21, 15 December 2005 (UTC)
  • Support. Very weak object. I am very impressed with how well written and organized this article is as a whole, especially considering there hasn't been a formal peer review. As a recent current event, though, I'm sure it drew the eyes of many editors, and the product shows. I only have a few thoughts, one of which have already been mentioned.
Non-U.S. Topics: There could be quite a bit more fleshing out in regards to Dennis's non-U.S. effects. I'm sure it's quite a bit more difficult to find, but FAs need to be comprehensive.
I fleshed out the section about Cuba. To be honest, there is never any information from Haiti about hurricanes - even the Hurricane Jeanne article has little beyond that 3,000 people were killed. I think this has been addressed. - Cuivienen 14:23, 15 December 2005 (UTC)
A bit of vagueness: Some more work could be done to better explain things like "uncertainty over Dennis." Admittedly, there's a citation there, but things like this should be explained more plainly.
Fixed that one example. If there are any more (I see none), post them here. - Cuivienen 16:40, 15 December 2005 (UTC)
Needs a copyedit: I haven't had the chance to read through every line, but there's a number of grammatical errors; this article needs someone to go through and copyedit with a fine-toothed comb. "it strengthened into Tropical Storm Dennis in the eastern Caribbean, and setting the record..." (verb) "Dennis weakened to Category 1 intensity from the effects of crossing the island as the mountainous terrain of Cuba disrupted the circulation." (long and winding, could be broken down) "however, initially insurers estimated" (I don't know what it is, but "however, insurers initially estimed" sounds better) and so on...
I've cleaned up some of the worst offenders. It looks much better now. - Cuivienen 16:44, 15 December 2005 (UTC)
Best of luck on your FAC! -Rebelguys2 06:13, 15 December 2005 (UTC)
  • Support. I disagree with the comment above that this article has some poor wording; I've read through and everything is surprisingly understandable even for one who knows nothing about hurricanes like myself. --- Basileus Basileon Basileuon Basileuoton 06:49, 15 December 2005 (UTC)
  • Support. Very well-written article; looks like all concerns above have been addressed. - Lantare 17:45, 17 December 2005 (UTC)
  • Strong Support. Well-researched and comprehensive. I would like to see more coverage on the effects in Haiti, but I myself just did a quick search and absolutely nothing came up. Having been something of a hurricane enthusiast myself I can testify that it was frustrating finding information regarding Hurricane Jeanne, and that was a catastrophic storm. Plus, the Haitian government has recently been in chaos. - Blake's Star 02:53, 18 December 2005 (UTC)
  • Support. I'd like to echo the sentiments from Rebelguys2 taht this article is impressively well-formatted and written for an article without a peer review. While I would normally say that a peer review should be necessary for a FAC, it doesn't seem like this article needs one. Great job! - House of Cards 02:16, 19 December 2005 (UTC)
  • Conditional support, this sentence is unclear :Dennis caused at least 71 deaths in the U.S. and Caribbean and caused $1.8 billion in damages (2005 US dollars) to the United States, as well as an approximately equal amount of damage to Cuba and other Caribbean nations. Did Cuba and the Carribean have equal amount of damage, or was damage outside the US about a costly as damage within the US? The identical captions for the images in the imapct section are pretty uninformative.--nixie 03:29, 19 December 2005 (UTC)
Clarified that sentence (equal in US and Caribbean, most of Caribbean damage in Cuba) and gave better captions to the two damage images. - Cuivienen 03:47, 19 December 2005 (UTC)
  • Support, about time we got one of these hurricanes on FA :) --Golbez 00:15, 20 December 2005 (UTC)
  • Support; comprehensive, thorough, informative, tedious details are minimal, pictures are sufficient and unobstructive, word economy is decent (could be better though), references are numerous yet user friendly (not idiot proof but user friendly). All in all a solid article. -- Hurricane Eric - my dropsonde - archive 00:54, 20 December 2005 (UTC)
  • Strong support; while it doesn't have all the features we later introduced with Katrina and other later storms (basically uses 2004 standards), it is a very stable and very good article. CrazyC83 17:38, 20 December 2005 (UTC)
  • Weak object. Will gladly support after this is resolved: the organisation of template and image elements is slightly awkward and makes some areas of text too wide and too narrow (the contrast is too jarring)...won't take much to fix. There are two images which almost lie opposed to each other and aligned horizontally - someone with discernment fix this so that awkwardly narrow sections won't occur. You can probably toss one more image (or graph, or statistic) in there, and that'll be extra good, but not required for my support. -- Natalinasmpf 19:30, 22 December 2005 (UTC)
I've tested numerous possible alignments of the templates and images and there is no better way to format them; any other formatting creates awkward breaks or excess white space. I really don't see the problem with the current formatting. It's fixed now. - Cuivienen 21:03, 22 December 2005 (UTC)
  • Object Overall, an interesting article. Seems comprehensive, and packs a lot of information into a relatively short text. My objection in this case is based on a couple of factual points; I will strike my objection once they are satisfied. (I also did a little bit of copyediting; the writing still needs tightening up here and there, but considering the topic -- how many ways can you say "hurricane"? -- and length, I didn't choose to list this as a specific objection.)
  • During the height of the storm, Dennis left 680,000 customers without electricity in four southern states. These states should be listed, given the level of detail provided elsewhere.
  • In the United States, 10 storm-related deaths were reported, including one in Walton County, Florida,[15] two in Fort Lauderdale, Florida,[16] and one in Decatur, Georgia.[17] This gives the impression of partial, haphazard research: why the locations of only four, right down to the city or county, of 10? Also, perhaps an unnecessary level of detail, as death locations in other countries are not equally pinpointed (maybe locate at state level only).

--Tsavage 23:25, 24 December 2005 (UTC)

  • Very Strong Support This article is great, comprehensible and complete. Covers many datails, even it has been cited in a newspaper... Congratulations for doing an excelent article. juan andrés 05:01, 29 January 2006 (UTC)
    • Umm... it has been promoted already, almost a month ago... Titoxd(?!? - help us) 05:08, 29 January 2006 (UTC)
      • Oh! I didn't look at the dates. juan andrés 23:09, 30 January 2006 (UTC)
        • Nice to see the moral support, at least ;-) —Cuiviénen (Cuivië) 05:05, 2 February 2006 (UTC)