Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/FC Steaua Bucureşti/archive1

The following is an archived discussion of a featured article nomination. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the article's talk page or in Wikipedia talk:Featured article candidates. No further edits should be made to this page.

The article was not promoted 01:11, 7 July 2007.

[edit] FC Steaua Bucureşti

I believe this page widely covers all criteria for a nomination. All useless information has been removed and details have been moved to independent pages. Vladi 21:43, 29 June 2007 (UTC)

• Fixes needed

• Quite a few more inline citations are needed.
• Trivia and Miscellaneous sections are discouraged.
• En dashes should be used in scorelines and date ranges (eg. 1985–86)
• Some footnotes are missing the publisher and publishing date.
• Only full dates and dates with a day and a month should be linked. Epbr123 22:03, 29 June 2007 (UTC)
• Once you get properly licensed images, Wikipedia:Manual of Style recommends not to specify the size of images as the size should be what readers have specified in their user preferences. Also, text shouldn't be sandwiched between two images.
• "1980's" shouldn't have an apostrophe.
• A word doesn't need to be linked twice in the same section. Epbr123 22:32, 29 June 2007 (UTC)

• Oppose: You're the creator of Image:Mlascar.jpg? That's what the licensing says. Looks to me like this image was taken from the net somewhere, and not of your creation? I see it at [1][2][3] and others. Also, given that you were born after this gentleman died, I don't think you hold rights to this image as creator of it. Image:CCA.jpg indicates author, but no source to verify this is under a free license. Image:Ghencea74.jpg, again this image is from before you were born. I doubt you have rights to it as creator. Image:Iovancce.jpg this image was taken when you were two years old. I doubt you have creator rights to that either. These doubts give me grounds to question Image:George becali 2.jpg. Image:SteauaBadges.jpg is improperly tagged; you do not own rights to these badges and can not release the rights in any case. Image:Ghencea.jpg has no source, and no way to verify it's been released under GFDL. In short, there's very serious issues with regards to the imagery on this article. Until these problems are rectified, this article can't be considered among our best. --Durin 22:07, 29 June 2007 (UTC)
• Oppose - Severe image problems here. Image:CCA.jpg is tagged as CC, but that license didn't exist when that photo was taken and there's no further explanation of how that image is so released. Image:Iovancce.jpg looks like an official photo and may not be that user's actual work. Image:SteauaBadges.jpg is a derivative work of several fair-use images and, at best, needs a fair-use rationale - although it may not qualify even so. (Sorry for repeats from above; I was edit-conflicted) (ESkog)^(Talk) 22:09, 29 June 2007 (UTC)
• Oppose A generally good standard, which would probably pass a good article nomination, but fixes are needed for FA standard to be attained.
  • Transfers from the current season shouldn't be included, this isn't Wikinews. Likewise for the "UEFA ranking" further down.
  • The list of staff is more or less a club directory. Only the most important officials should be included. Generally speaking, this means only including those individuals notable enough to merit their own article.
  • The Notable Players throughout History list appears to have no inclusion criteria. Criteria are needed for the section to express a neutral point of view, rather than being based on the point of view of the editors who added them.
  • A few things require citations:
    • The 1956 Romanian national team being composed entirely of players from the club.
    • legendary goalkeeper Helmuth Duckadam saved all four penalties taken by the Spaniards
    • Cup specialists nickname.
    • Păunescu performed poorly as a president and soon the club was plunged into debt.
    • Even though contested by many, including the majority of Steaua fans... (contested by many is an instance of weasel words).
    • ...redesigned in 1974, loosely inspired by that of FC Barcelona
    • ...it was the first football-only stadium ever built in Communist Romania
    • The geographical spread of supporters, and the development of the Ultras movement
  • One that might possibly be better resolved on the talk page, but (in the West at least) the success of the 1980s Steaua team was partially attributed to the influence of Nicolae Ceauşescu, and conscription of the best players so they had to play for the Army club (alluded to here and here). It is a little surprising that the issue is not mentioned, irrespective of whether the stories are well-founded or not. Oldelpaso 10:51, 30 June 2007 (UTC)

• Object—Very poorly written. Bucharest and Romania (or variants) both appear twice in the first, short sentence. Why is "English" linked? As if we don't know what it is. And you don't need to specify "English", anyway—it's obviously the translation of the preceding name. Why are simple years linked? Long snake: "The football department separated from the the entire sports club in 1998 and the only links to the Army right now are the historical tradition and their home ground, Stadionul Ghencea, which still belongs to the Ministry of National Defence but has been leased on a 49 year period to the football club." Not worth reading further. Tony 15:42, 2 July 2007 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the article's talk page or in Wikipedia talk:Featured article candidates. No further edits should be made to this page.