Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Elliott Smith
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[edit] Elliott Smith
This is a self-nomination. Elliott Smith is a good article which has had all the issues at its first FAC nomination and its peer review resolved as far as I know. - Phorque 19:11, 23 July 2006 (UTC)
- Support.
Nothingseems wrong here. RyanGerbil10 (Drop on in!) 03:55, 24 July 2006 (UTC)
- Image copyright status is not settled for all images. No reson to oppose, however, the article is quite high-quality. RyanGerbil10 (Drop on in!) 04:00, 24 July 2006 (UTC)
- Support. Thought this was ready by the end of the last FAC, and it's improved even more since then. Fg2 07:36, 24 July 2006 (UTC)
- Support,
although I made some suggestions in the PR that weren't taken onboard (there's still, for example, no mention of Thumbsucker) ;-)Great article, though, appears to have had most if not all of its issues cleared up, extremely well-referenced (as it needs to be, for the various pieces of controversy surrounding Elliott's life and death). Maybe I'm biased as a fan, but I'd like to see this on the front page, and I think it does him justice.Although it'd be nice if the article made mention of his distinctive vocal styles (his voice itself, the double tracking, etc.)Seb Patrick 08:54, 24 July 2006 (UTC)
- I'll make a bash at including those in the article. - Phorque 15:30, 24 July 2006 (UTC)
- Done. See "Final years and death". - Phorque 16:19, 24 July 2006 (UTC)
- Cool :-) I just think it's an interesting point to raise, as it demonstrates that his life wasn't in a complete downward spiral when he died, and that he was (or at least appeared to be) upbeat and enthusiastic about some things. Plus, unless I'm much mistaken, the two covers represent his final ever recorded work, do they not? Anyway, a nicely-done addition that only serves to enhance my support vote. Seb Patrick 18:32, 24 July 2006 (UTC)
- "Trouble" is supposedly the last thing he recorded, but I'm pretty certain that "Thirteen" was recorded during at least 1997 or earlier. Shamrox 00:07, 29 July 2006 (UTC)
- Cool :-) I just think it's an interesting point to raise, as it demonstrates that his life wasn't in a complete downward spiral when he died, and that he was (or at least appeared to be) upbeat and enthusiastic about some things. Plus, unless I'm much mistaken, the two covers represent his final ever recorded work, do they not? Anyway, a nicely-done addition that only serves to enhance my support vote. Seb Patrick 18:32, 24 July 2006 (UTC)
- Done. See "Final years and death". - Phorque 16:19, 24 July 2006 (UTC)
- Comment -
in order to enhance readability, you might want to turn the soundclips into inline soundclips whenever possible (especially with "Miss Misery") and possibly do away with the album image gallery in the discography (which most featured articles on bands/musicians don't have).WesleyDodds 23:42, 24 July 2006 (UTC)
- I like the soundclip idea. However, I don't see having the album images there much of a problem so unless somebody can object on other grounds than "all the featured kids are doing it", I'll just leave them there. - Phorque 13:10, 25 July 2006 (UTC)
- Well, they are kind of redundant, given some of them show up in the body of the article anyway. WesleyDodds 23:43, 25 July 2006 (UTC)
- No, Wikipedia:Music samples states that should be distinguished in boxes and not inlined with text in oder to justify fair use. Therefore it would be better to
include them back into boxes.CG 17:01, 29 July 2006 (UTC)- Forgot I also did that. - Phorque 11:55, 5 August 2006 (UTC)
- No, Wikipedia:Music samples states that should be distinguished in boxes and not inlined with text in oder to justify fair use. Therefore it would be better to
- Well, they are kind of redundant, given some of them show up in the body of the article anyway. WesleyDodds 23:43, 25 July 2006 (UTC)
- Object
Discography section is a gallery of unfree images. Fails Wikipedia:Fair use criteria. Other unfree images need fair use rationales.Jkelly 23:56, 28 July 2006 (UTC)
- Aren't album covers not applicable to the unfree image rule? Shamrox 00:05, 29 July 2006 (UTC)
- I thought so too, also consider what Miles Davis' featured article looks like. - Phorque 08:57, 3 August 2006 (UTC)
- I added rationales. If they aren't good enough, I just give up. So there. Someone else can do that. - Phorque 18:50, 29 July 2006 (UTC)
- Support I helped with the initial revamping of the article (spreading it out from a couple paragraphs to significantly longer) but haven't done too much since the last time it was put up for feature article, so hopefully my vote won't be counted as biased. This article looks really good! Hats off to everyone who worked on it. Shamrox 00:05, 29 July 2006 (UTC)
- Comment There don't appear to be any unanswered objections. Time to promote? Fg2 10:23, 3 August 2006 (UTC)
- Support. WesleyDodds 03:58, 4 August 2006 (UTC)
- Support Looks great to me. Teemu08 03:08, 5 August 2006 (UTC)
- Support It's a wonderful article. joules214