Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Devil May Cry 3: Dante's Awakening

The following is an archived discussion of a featured article nomination. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the article's talk page or in Wikipedia talk:Featured article candidates. No further edits should be made to this page.

The article was promoted 21:24, 28 April 2007.

[edit] Devil May Cry 3: Dante's Awakening

• Peer Review

The article was edited to follow the standards that the other two Devil May Cry Featured articles have, in the process becoming Good Article. After that the article received a peer review where the points presented were atended. The current quality of the article is by far superior than what Devil May Cry exhibited when it was a FAC. Any points presented by anyone will be attended ASAP by me or any other member of the Devil May Cry Task Force, thanks to anyone that comments. -凶 01:14, 18 April 2007 (UTC)

• Support - It looks good. References, neutral POV from what I can tell and it has good grammar-_$UIT 01:49, 18 April 2007 (UTC)

• Support - The article has been upgraded perfectly to mach its predecesors, if not better. I believe this article is ready to be rated as Featured Article. --Alexlayer 02:08, 18 April 2007 (UTC)

• Oppose - I hate to do this, especially as a member of the Devil May Cry taskforce, but this article has a few issues which need to be addressed:
  • Reception could be a lot more meaty. The Reception section is a lot shorter than both the Devil May Cry and Devil May Cry 2 articles and that needs to be beefed up a bit. Not much, but it does require a bit of attention.
  • The Development section doesn't address the development of the game in anything resembling a comprehensive manner. The first paragraph just echoes items from the Devil May Cry 2 reception section without elaborating on how CPS1 changed things, the second paragraph devotes all of one sentence to the game's development before moving on to items better left to the connected releases section and the third paragraph just mentions one of the marketing items Capcom developed before the release.
  • In Connected Releases, is there really no more information about the Source Book which could be included? If not, why does it warrant an entirely seperate section? It might be better to move both the Source Book information and Soundtrack information into a general lead-in paragraph before the Special Edition information, as a suggestion. You might also want to include a blurb about the manga there instead of just in the lead-in paragraph.
  • The PC Edition of DMC3:SE get a lot of flak for control issues and degraded visuals (despite increased system requirements), shouldn't this be addressed in the article somewhere?
• If those issues are addressed or at least a responded to, I'll support. Otherwise, I can't in good conscience. Cheers, Lankybugger ○ Yell ○ 02:49, 18 April 2007 (UTC)
  • Support due to improvements. Cheers, Lankybugger ○ Yell ○ 17:14, 22 April 2007 (UTC)
• Comment References need work. I looked at the last one as a spot check — the title is misrepresented, and the date is not given. Other references need work, such as removing the confusing second external jump on the publisher. Some references include the publisher with the title. I don't see the relevance of the see also links beyond the name "Dante". Is there a reason for them? Pagrashtak 05:48, 18 April 2007 (UTC)

• • Comment I will deal with the refs tommorow; the Divine Comedy is relevant to the Devil May Cry series, please read this page Devil May Cry (series), thanks for commenting. --凶 05:57, 18 April 2007 (UTC)

• Comment As someone who's worked on the article, I don't think I should vote. Conflict of interest and all that (but everything I write is GOLD, you hear me? GOLD! :) Anyway, I would still like a better gameplay image with the HUD and clearly visible gameplay. Also, the only action figure I know of for DMC3 is the Revoltech Dante figure (which I own!), so I took out the "line of action figures" line. --Boradis 07:06, 18 April 2007 (UTC)

• Oppose—1a issues. Although the article is coming along nicely, the prose needs more work. From the first few paragraphs:
  • "The game is a prequel to Devil May Cry, and is currently the first game in the series storyline's chronological order." No need for "currently".
  • "...but was praised for its return to the engaging gameplay of Devil May Cry and various improvements." This can probably be tightened. Try integrating "various improvements" before "gameplay of DMC" somehow.
  • "Set in modern times in an enchanted tower named Temen-ni-gru,[3] the story centers around the conflict and dysfunctional relationship between Dante and his brother Vergil." "Centers around" should be "centers on", and you can axe "the conflict and" because "dysfunctional relationship" implies conflict well enough.
  • "The events of the game take place just as Dante has opened up the Devil May Cry agency[5] although he has not yet named it, and before Dante's demonic heritage has reached its full potential." removing "although he has not yet named it" will remove excessive lead info and tighten the sentence.
  • "There is a manga based on the game featuring the same characters,[7] first published in Japan in 2005, which serves as a prequel to the game." sentence needs work. Perhaps "A manga based on the game, first published in Japan in 2005, serves as a prequel to the game". You can also integrate it into the preceeding paragraph.
  • Another random thing: "as-yet" should be "as-of-yet".
• It's making a lot of progress, and improvement can be seen with each successive FAC. Some formatting recommendations:
  • Gameplay can be one major section; no need for the two subsections (especially since one is just a paragraph).
  • It's not really necessary to subdivide the external links, especially since there are only four.
• Good work so far; it's getting there. Please remember that these are only examples that indicate that the entire prose needs a massage by a couple people. — Deckiller 07:08, 18 April 2007 (UTC)
  • Comment- I have attended all the lines you present here, it's good that we focused on that part first or we would be stuck here for sure, it needs some tweaks but I will deal with the reception and development sections first, I will be back in a few hours, thanks for the points.--凶 01:15, 19 April 2007 (UTC)
• Support - looks worthy to me, thanks to the big overhaul it's had recently. --Oscarthecat 07:30, 18 April 2007 (UTC)

• Support Chensiyuan 06:38, 21 April 2007 (UTC)
• Support is good enough to be an FA, although the other two DMC articles are better (specially in the reception). igordebraga ≠ 21:07, 21 April 2007 (UTC)
• Support. Once the ^{[citation needed]} tags I placed have been addressed, the article will be near-perfect. One minor thing I noted, though, was how the image in the Gameplay section does not actually relate to anything; it doesn't show the HUD, or really anything being discussed in the section it is meant to illustrate. I recommend finding a better image. Regardless, the article is easily featured quality. Great work. JimmyBlackwing 03:51, 24 April 2007 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the article's talk page or in Wikipedia talk:Featured article candidates. No further edits should be made to this page.