Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Coronation Street/archive2

The following is an archived discussion of a featured article nomination. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the article's talk page or in Wikipedia talk:Featured article candidates. No further edits should be made to this page.

The article was not promoted 01:09, 3 April 2007.

[edit] Coronation Street

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This article has been given a massive reworking since it was demoted from Featured Article status in August 2006. Coronation Street has been fully remodelled, presenting the five main decades of the programme in sections of similar length and structure. The lead has also been heavily rewritten and lengthened as well as early sections being based around the background to the programme and its characters and characterisation. Most importantly, the article is now extremely well referenced from a very wide range of sources (print sources, video, DVD and Internet). Ben 14:05, 16 March 2007 (UTC)

• Oppose images need revamping. I list the problems for each one:

1. Main Image:Coronationstreet2004.jpg has evidence of a low quality JPEG filetype.
2. No source for Image:Coronationstreet2004.jpg user created screen cap or taken from a website?
3. No source for Image:Gail Potter 1975.jpg " "
4. No fair use rationale for Image:Enaelsiefight.jpg
5. Both Image:Enaelsiefight.jpg, Image:Valerie Barlow 1971 death.jpg and Image:Gail Potter 1975.jpg should be smaller to comply with fair use regulations
6. Image:Deirdrekenfight.jpg needs to be smaller, source and fair use rationale
7. Image:Bettabuy 1991.jpg needs to be reduced in size " "
8. Image:Deirdresentdown.jpg rationale + smaller size
9. Image:Karen Tracy 2004.jpg source? " "
10. Image:Rosamund St Viaduct.jpg fu rationale needed

An external links section may also be useful for including additional links, not just the ones in the infobox.--The Negotiator 21:59, 16 March 2007 (UTC)

• Y Done I have addressed the problems raised with images, adding some newly created ones or creating similar ones which are fully sourced with adequate rationale. The external links section was removed because most were either superfluous or not advisable per WP:EL. Ben 12:48, 17 March 2007 (UTC)
• Ok:

1. Image:Ena and Elsie 1965.jpg, Image:Deirdresentdown.jpg and Image:Valerie Barlow 1971 death.jpg still need to be resized down. Apart from that it looks like you've fixed most of the above.--The Negotiator 13:39, 17 March 2007 (UTC)

• • Y Done Resized the three images in question as well as Image:Rosamund Street Viaduct 2002.jpg. Any other comments or suggestions, The Negotiator? Ben 17:02, 17 March 2007 (UTC)

1. Reference 73 doesn't include access date & publisher.--The Negotiator 12:41, 18 March 2007 (UTC)

• • Y Done Sorted out reference problem. Ben 12:44, 18 March 2007 (UTC)
• Support, had a quick read through and didn't spot any problems.--The Negotiator 13:34, 18 March 2007 (UTC)

• Support: accurate, covers relevant areas, interestingly written and fully referenced. I did the spoken version, but have made no recent textual edits. Hassocks5489 13:24, 21 March 2007 (UTC)
• Minor object Image:Coronation Street Opening 2002.jpg needs to be scaled down to no more than 400px wide and tagged with {{subst:furd}}. ShadowHalo 00:45, 23 March 2007 (UTC)
• Comment I have added the {{subst:furd}} tag and will address the problem with image sizing tomorrow when I have access to another computer. Ben 01:37, 23 March 2007 (UTC)
  • Y Done Thanks to Mecu Ben 18:35, 24 March 2007 (UTC)

• Oppose Relies very heavily on http://www.corrie.net/about/who.html — a fan website. Also, references should be fully expanded so that all show publisher (many footnotes don't identify corrie.net as the publisher, and don't include full info last access date). SandyGeorgia (Talk) 23:58, 25 March 2007 (UTC)
  • Comment I have addressed most of the points raised about the references in the article. I must disagree when you state that the article "relies very heavily" on Corrie.net - there were seven references to the website in question out of just over 90 in total...somewhat outweighed? Three references remain to Corrie.net, one is from an interview with Coronation Street archivist and historian, Daran Little, which is atrributed to William Hadcroft, the other two are to information that I have a print source for but do not have to hand at the moment. BenC533

• Oppose - 1a. Here are random examples from the top that indicate the need for a copy-edit throughout.
  • Redundant commas, such as before "in" in the first sentence, and "Between December 1960, and March 1961". Audit the whole text for this.
  • "Since its launch the programme has aired in many countries worldwide" - "in many countries" plus "worldwide" is awkward. Remove the first three words, unless it might have aired before its launch.
  • "The programme is also recognised as a drama serial" - if it's to be worded thus, we start to want a reference.
  • "Of the original cast, only one character remains today" - spot the redundant word.
  • "re-shape" - is it hyphenated? Tony 08:04, 27 March 2007 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the article's talk page or in Wikipedia talk:Featured article candidates. No further edits should be made to this page.