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[edit] Brave New World

Attempt one

Self-Nomination I have been working on this article for some time, and feel that the text is up to Wikipedia standards. The article now features an image, corrected links, and a well-sized introduction. These were the main reasons for its failed previous nomination, and now that they have been fixed, I believe the article is up to standard. Rusty2005 12:49, 15 August 2005 (UTC)

Weak Object. Someone raised this point when I tried to push The Giver to FA, so I feel it's only cricket that I raise the same point here. The article is pretty good as far as it goes, but it doesn't really leave me with a sense of the novel's significance. How many copies has it sold? What awards has it won? Do some schools require it and others ban it? Also, I agree with 195.137.101.199 that the article should compare Brave New World with more than just Orwell's Nineteen Eighty-Four. This comparison we have now, furthermore, sounds too much like Original Research. There must be scholarly articles on this topic; might we see citations to a couple? (I mean, I made that comparison in my 11th-grade English term paper.) I recall coming across (in a Huxley biography?) some talk of a BNW movie for which Huxley did some writing, but which never got off the ground. Information like that would make a valuable addition, though I don't think it's absolutely essential. Likewise, I believe the article could benefit from any biographical material about Huxley's writing the novel itself. (So what if it falls foul of the New Criticism's "intentional fallacy"?) Finally, I would like to see a couple more relevant pictures — say, images of later editions, if they have any aesthetic appeal at all. (And maybe we could scare up a good photo of Malpais?) This isn't a major point; I would probably change my vote to "support" even without more pictures, assuming my other points were addressed. Anville 16:06, 16 August 2005 (UTC)

Object. All well and good, I can see the improvement, but were are the references?? --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus ^Talk 22:13, 16 August 2005 (UTC)

Object. As the others above said, the article needs more depth in several areas and needs to be references thoroughly (with in-line footnotes). If this is done I will support this as a FA b/c the novel is one of my favorites.--Alabamaboy 00:38, 17 August 2005 (UTC)

Support. Nicely written through and through. I can't see your guys's objections as being worthwhile. I think this is just fine for being a featured article. --Matt Yeager 05:52, August 17, 2005 (UTC)

Must object for now - no references, no citing of sources. Some of the sections might do with a bit of editing for brevity, or might do with branching out to seperate articles (for example to Characters in Brave New World, The World State (Brave New World) or something like that). The synopsis is anything but brief, again an idea might be to put most of it in a new article (named something like Synopsis of Brave New World perhaps?) and par it down significantly in the article. Refer to Wikipedia:What is a featured article. I do think it's a good article overall, but not FA-material as it stands now. Again, I repeat my plea for proper references and citing of sources.WegianWarrior 08:10, 17 August 2005 (UTC)