Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Bam Thwok

The following is an archived discussion of a featured article nomination. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the article's talk page or in Wikipedia talk:Featured article candidates. No further edits should be made to this page.

The article was promoted 03:22, 12 April 2007.

[edit] Bam Thwok

A song by the American alternative rock band Pixies. Recently promoted to good article status. I think it's worthy of featured status after looking over the featured article criteria, although it is a little on the short side. Note that I couldn't find any information about the song's producer; it was originally recorded as a demo for Dreamwork's Shrek 2. CloudNine 10:42, 4 April 2007 (UTC)

• Comment is it just my speakers or is the sample recording really loud, to the point where it is distorting and peaking?-- Zleitzen^(talk) 17:17, 4 April 2007 (UTC)

• Is that using the 'Play in browser' link? I'm experiencing the same problem with other samples, and I can't change the volume. However, I'll definitely look into it. CloudNine 17:20, 4 April 2007 (UTC)

• It's now definitely quieter (you were right about it peaking). However, the 'Play in browser' button still blasts the sample out. Perhaps that's why it's beta. CloudNine 17:28, 4 April 2007 (UTC)

• That's fine now. Thanks.-- Zleitzen^(talk) 22:42, 4 April 2007 (UTC)

• Support Oppose - The article seems slight: in paticular the signifance of Deal contributing lead vocals, while Francis is regulated to backing, is not properly explained. Mention should be made of the reason the band spit up, and the irony of the reversal of fortunes that was their respective solo careers. There is not a lot of info in the body of the article that isn't in the lead, and while there's a good story here, it hasn't yet been drawn out. Ceoil 20:55, 4 April 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for your review. I originally removed information about that, thinking it was a little off-topic. I'll definitely work on it. CloudNine 21:29, 4 April 2007 (UTC)

I've added what I feel is on-topic with regards to its significance; a paragraph about the respective successes of their solo careers might be heading off-topic, and wouldn't be directly related to their conflict or easily citeable. CloudNine 18:32, 6 April 2007 (UTC)

Thats fair enough, the other additions you made are good improvements, and I've switched to support. Ceoil 18:38, 6 April 2007 (UTC)

• Support First, let me say that this is one of the worst songs ever recorded. I've always hated the Pixies, and this is their crappiest song. My best friend is a Pixies die-hard, and when he first played this song for me, he literally started banging his head against a desk as I made fun of him. Second, this is an excellent article. It is well-written and well-sourced, and covers all major aspects of the song. While I don't disagree with Ceoil's opposition, I simply think the above issues aren't such a big deal (or CNine has improved the article in the past couple of days). While the article is a bit short, length is not a FA requirement. Quality is, and this article is of extremely high quality. Great job. -- Kicking222 18:22, 6 April 2007 (UTC)
• Weak Support — quite good, but some minor issues. Several lines of content are repeated almost word for word in the lead and subsequent sections, as well as the first and last sections.
  • Looking through the article now, I don't feel that's the case. Could you point out any other examples please? CloudNine 21:54, 9 April 2007 (UTC)

For example:

• • "Bam Thwok"'s major theme is goodwill; Deal later explained that the song is "about loving everyone" and "showing goodwill to everyone". and later, The theme of "Bam Thwok" is, according to Deal, "about loving everyone, showing goodwill to everyone". Perhaps simplify the lead to just mention goodwill and not the quote.
    • Fixed that. Thanks. CloudNine 18:03, 8 April 2007 (UTC)
  • Also, a quick copy-edit by someone unfamilar with the text will help weed out any lingering deficiencies.

— Deckiller 16:51, 8 April 2007 (UTC)

• Support - it's well written, comprehensive, well referenced and has a good images as you can get for a song. One comment though.... is it necessary to enclose "Bam Thwok" in quotes each time it's mentioned ? I've had this song on a CD for a year now an never worked out the name...wikipedia helps again ! - Peripitus (Talk) 12:32, 10 April 2007 (UTC)
  • Thanks. Yes, the MOS requires that songs be referenced in quotes. CloudNine 12:51, 10 April 2007 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the article's talk page or in Wikipedia talk:Featured article candidates. No further edits should be made to this page.