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Contents 1 February 2008 1.1 Contentious editing 2 used 2.1 the used page got locked 3 The USed.. again 4 ? 5 Trivium (band) 6 August Burns Red 7 Saosin 8 The Used

[edit] February 2008

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[edit] Contentious editing

Please do not change genres and ask editors to "learn what they mean". The genres have articles themselves, and so we are well aware of what they mean and how they are used. Chubbles (talk) 00:22, 31 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] used

yeah it def needed a genre section, it shud of been made a long time ago. USEDfan (talk) 03:10, 9 May 2008 (UTC)

be on the look out for SilverOrion who keeps removing half of the genre dispute paragraph, if u and fatalerror agree with the way i made it, then its obviosly better our way but they keep removing that the band is consider screamo and they make it say bert stated they arent scremo when all he siad was that they dont want to be scremo. USEDfan (talk) 06:51, 9 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] the used page got locked

user:silverorion kept removing half of the genre paragraph we worked on, so i go tinto a little eit war, then decided i didnt want to get banned so i reported it and the page got locked how they had it, so half the paragraph is missing and it says bert stated the used arnt scremo when all he said was they dont want to be scremo, so right now im pissed cause half of the work i did was gone, if u could go to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Zedla page and tell them that u agree with the way we made it hopefully that will be helpful and show the silverorion deleting half a page is vandalism. USEDfan (talk) 07:57, 9 May 2008 (UTC)

It was your fault as much as his. Don't get into edit wars in the first place. But yeah, your version was better. Oh and please, at least try to type proper English, it's really hard to read. -- FatalError 05:08, 11 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] The USed.. again

Gee, talk about being BIASED. We're both arguing over the topic, but for some reason you think that IM the one getting in the way of the other person. Did you actually read what i wrote on the talk page. I have many sources saying that they are NOT screamo, and the band member even said that they dont consider themselves screamo. WHY IS IT THAT WHEN THERE IS A DISPUTE, YOU HAVE TO ASSUME THE POSITIVE? WHY!? --SilverOrion (talk) 07:09, 13 May 2008 (UTC)

To create an effective "disputed" section, its important that you actually describe why it is disputed, rather than simply giving a really general comment which suggests that each genre equally acceptable. Besides, to leave out the arguments against screamo would be to undo all the past discussion, seeing that screamo was actually the only genre i disagreed with. Anyhow, I'm relatively satisfied with the current version... --SilverOrion (talk) 08:28, 15 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] ?

where did i attack him, i make good edits and remove vandalism, i also like the description about me that u gave to silverorion, thats real nice of u. how long have we been friends now for? a couple weeks? u no me better then that. USEDfan (talk) 05:55, 14 May 2008 (UTC)

lol i wouldnt say i was being serious. USEDfan (talk) 23:11, 14 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Trivium (band)

Please do not mess with the genres. It was clearly stated on the page not to do that without talk page discussion, but you ignored that, and piping NWOAHM to metalcore is downright deceptive. J Milburn (talk) 09:53, 16 May 2008 (UTC)

The link redirects to metalcore anyway. And I don't understand why I can't put metalcore in the article when it is already in the infobox. Or at least thrash metal, if you have a problem with metalcore. -- FatalError 17:00, 16 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] August Burns Red

Dude, you cant just let give up like that.--SilverOrion (talk) 07:29, 22 May 2008 (UTC)

I didn't necessarily give up, I was waiting for someone else to pitch in. Thanks for asking CircafuciX. -- FatalError 23:37, 22 May 2008 (UTC)

No problem. −₪ÇɨгcaғucɨҲ₪ ^kaiden 23:41, 22 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Saosin

I saw where you added the fact template on this article. I found a source for post-hardcore, and think I may have found one for screamo. Is this a reliable source in your opinion? I'm not up for another edit war, so figured I'd ask before using it. If the answer is no I found a couple more. Landon1980 (talk) 04:15, 23 May 2008 (UTC)

What about this one Landon1980 (talk) 04:36, 23 May 2008 (UTC)

The first one is fine, it's currently being used to cite emocore I believe. I just totally forgot about it when I put the template. The second one looks reliable at first glance. Are you sure it's the staff that review it? Because that would be the determining factor. -- FatalError 04:40, 23 May 2008 (UTC)

Wait, what genre is the second source for? Because I don't see any mention of post-hardcore or screamo for Saosin. -- FatalError 04:42, 23 May 2008 (UTC)

The second one was for screamo I thought. I confused it with the review below, sorry about that. As for the first one I'm not sure about anything. I'm not familiar with this band at all; just trying to find some good sources. Landon1980 (talk) 05:13, 23 May 2008 (UTC)

It called a different band screamo. But anyway, yeah the first one is fine, I'd take caution in using its "emocore" label though, because like with the "death metal" sources on ABR's article, it just says "Genre: emocore". I usually don't trust those, because they are limited to certain genres (that particular website doesn't have "post-hardcore"). But they do call the band screamo within the actual review, so that can be used. My general rule of thumb is if there is no actualy text (like a review or something) to back up the statement, don't trust it. -- FatalError 05:18, 23 May 2008 (UTC)

Ok, thanks. Landon1980 (talk) 05:23, 23 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] The Used

I tried finding a source for the statement that they don't care what genre they are as long as... and I did find they supposedly said it in an interview with Kerrang magazine. It says that here However I went to their site and looked at everything related to the band they have done by searching the site and couldn't find it. I may have overlooked it. See if you can find it in there. Landon1980 (talk) 05:10, 24 May 2008 (UTC)

You do realize that the first link is just a Wikipedia mirror, right? I'll take a look around the Kerrang! website, see if I can find anything. Earlier, I did a Google search for the exact quote and didn't find anything straight out of the magazine, so I doubt I'll find anything on the website. But you never know. -- FatalError 05:24, 24 May 2008 (UTC)

Well, I found three articles that could possibly contain that interview. The Used - Crazy Bert is back!, dish the dirt with The Used (don't know what that means), and The Used strive to impress in London (but that's probably a concert). I did a quick search and didn't find a single one that mentioned anything about an interview with The Used. I honestly don't have any idea how to find it. It's probably not online. The most we can do is wait and hope someone shows up that subscribes to the magazine. -- FatalError 05:42, 24 May 2008 (UTC)

No, like I said before I know next to nothing about how things work around here. What is a wikipedia mirror? I found the artistopia link on google. I have a friend that subscribes to Kerrang, and I asked him about this. He found two or three issues he said with articles on the band. He said the quote wasn't in any of the ones he could find, but he is still looking. Landon1980 (talk) 07:32, 25 May 2008 (UTC)

The text from artistopia is copied from Wikipedia. So essentially you'd have cited Wikipedia as your source. Maybe we could email Kerang and ask? Haha. -- FatalError 21:18, 25 May 2008 (UTC)

i think sum1 edited the links to aviod doubles and changed the source i orginally had, cause i dont see it on the sourced page so i think whoever edited it messed up the source. USEDfan (talk) 00:40, 26 May 2008 (UTC)

they are relieable, either realize that or find another, thanks, USEDfan (talk) 01:14, 28 May 2008 (UTC)

You currently appear to be engaged in an edit war according to the reverts you have made on The Used. Note that the three-revert rule prohibits making more than three reversions on a single page within a 24 hour period. Additionally, users who perform a large number of reversions in content disputes may be blocked for edit warring, even if they do not technically violate the three-revert rule. If you continue, you may be blocked from editing. Please do not repeatedly revert edits, but use the talk page to work towards wording and content that gains a consensus among editors. If necessary, pursue dispute resolution. --USEDfan (talk) 02:02, 28 May 2008 (UTC)

u made as many edits as i did so if im guilty then u r too. USEDfan (talk) 02:32, 28 May 2008 (UTC)

ur edits were the same, mine were different to aviod it. thanks tho. see u on the talk page maybe. USEDfan (talk) 02:48, 28 May 2008 (UTC)

what are u doing vandal?, u just deleted all the info i fixed, its bull that u werent blocked last week when u did more eedits then i did, ur the one who shud be indefinilty banned for ur poor edits, not me. USEDfan (talk)

look kid, if u undo another one of my edits without talking about it first then ill report u for and indefienitly ban. if u make an update and i remove it u say its vandalism and then when i make an update and u remove it u say its ok...u make no sense, u just sound like a vandal to me. USEDfan (talk) 00:42, 12 June 2008 (UTC)

what? all u do is revert my edits, u also start edit wars and then u dont get banned, its ridiclous, i should be the only one who is allowed to edit the used page, it use to be a good page with important info on it,,,now i no why everyone says they dont read or believe whats on wikipedia, all the real info gets replaced with opinions, even if ILAD is a reissue, the song was released as a single first so u say something like the album was reissued with the digital single under pressure, the page is damaged beyond belief. USEDfan (talk) 00:49, 12 June 2008 (UTC)

but the thing is kid, when it comes to the used, i am a source, my page shud just be a source where i can confirm weather something about the used is true or not cause i no everything about them, i bet u dont have a copy of their demo cd and i do so ha! also, they are recording 18 songs for their 4th album, and that comes from what dan told me. USEDfan (talk) 01:01, 12 June 2008 (UTC)