User talk:Farmanesh

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[edit] about Conference on Interaction and Confidence Building Measures in Asia

Hi, after I created Conference on Interaction and Confidence-Building Measures in Asia, I found that you had created Conference on Interaction and Confidence Building Measures in Asia. I have asked to merge these two articles. I guess that "Confidence-Building", rather than "Confidence Building", is the official name. What do you think of it? Thanks for your contributions. --Neo-Jay 21:05, 19 June 2006 (UTC)

Many thanks for your merging. And you may add "~~~" as your signature. --Neo-Jay 21:15, 19 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Kind of confused

Hey, I am a bit confused. Are you an administrator? If not, then you should avoid adding the protection templates to articles, it is only admins who can do that. You added the protect tag, but the article wasn't protected by the code. If you want some article to be protected, try contacting an administrator and explain to him why you want the article to be protected. Cheers! Baristarim 05:46, 31 December 2006 (UTC)

Or "her". Tony (talk) 04:40, 24 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Info

The page for McWane should only be for info on the operations of the company, not allegations made by others even if there is a source. Thanks for creating the McWane page though.

[edit] Online petitions

I reverted your addition of the online petition because it does not qualify as a reliable source. Internet sources such as these must be authoritative in nature, and not a self-published source. Per WP:RS - "A questionable source is one with no editorial oversight or fact-checking process or with a poor reputation for fact-checking. Such sources include websites and publications that express views that are widely acknowledged as fringe or extremist, are promotional in nature, or rely heavily on rumors and personal opinions. Questionable sources may only be used in articles about themselves." The petition is based on personal opinions, and there is no indication that any of the voters have a reputable claim to determining the implications of this film. —Erik (talk • contrib • review) - 18:51, 7 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Newly industrialized country

Your attitude is not helping. Your edit summary says "Rv per talk", I'm sorry but that's not only wrong, but misleading. Nothing has been agreed in the talk page for you to say "Rv per talk". The whole article is based in those two books by expert authors in the subject. Your unwillingess to go and read those books is just ridiculous. OR says I have to give the references, and the references has always been there for you to read them. Now, go and read them. It is not my duty to make your reading easier. I read the whole book, now, it is your turn.

Newly Industrialized Countries

The ISBN codes has been provided in order to help the readers to locate the book in their local libraries. If you don't stop adding the unjustified OR tag, I'm gonna report you for disruptive behavoir, since there is no justficiation to include such a tag. Now, read. AlexCov ( Let's talk! ) 14:49, 5 April 2007 (UTC)

I don't know how to explain this, you seem not to get the point. First, I did not selected the countries in that list. Somebody else created the list, and added the references. I did created the table, added the flags and the economical information. After I created the table (not the list), I went to the library and read both books. I wrote down some important information to add it to the article. However, I did not pay attention to the pages, because, pages are not explicitly asked. A work can be cited by just giving the title and the author. Or even better, by just giving the ISBN.
Now, 2 days ago, I asked for a new book. I was reading it, because I wanted to develop the article. I just added the reference and included also the chapter number and the page. However, I don't have to do that, since the title, author and ISBN are enough.
As you can see, I can't provide the pages because I didn't add the first 2 books. I read them, but I didn't pay attention to the pages (I was not reading them to corroborate its content, but just to learn). So, I'm not going to the library just to provide you the page numbers: you can do it. The OR argument is invalid, since the 2 references were enough, and now, the OR argument is just impossible, since I added a new reference. AlexCov ( Let's talk! ) 15:59, 5 April 2007 (UTC)
Oh, I forgot to add here the reference I ADDED:
  • Globalization and the Transformation of Foreign Economic Policy by Paweł Bożyk, Chapter 7.3 "Newly Industrialized Countries", p.164. Ashgate Publishing, Ltd, 2006. (ISBN 0-75-464638-6)
AlexCov ( Let's talk! ) 16:00, 5 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Vandalism

As they told you at the Help Desk consult, if, only if a claim has no references, then it has problems of verifiability. That's not the case in NICs article. If you continue to add tags that are not correct/appropiate you will be reported for disrupting behaviour. AlexCov ( Let's talk! ) 16:48, 5 April 2007 (UTC)

Please stop. If you continue to vandalize Wikipedia, as you did to Newly industrialized country, you will be blocked from editing. Cause: Abuse of tags, Improper use of dispute tags.

An admin put a note on User:AlexCovarrubias's talk page not to simply tag others vandal for diagreeing with him[1]. Alex, please act more civil.Farmanesh 17:38, 5 April 2007 (UTC)
Just for archive and future, in result of User:AlexCovarrubias uncivil behaviour (like putting the vandal tag above and personal attacks) an admin User:Kafziel left following comment on User:AlexCovarrubias's talk page here:[2]. I also paste it below just in case. Admin:Kafziel writes to User:AlexCovarrubias:
"Please calm down. I've been very patient so far, but if you can't discuss the situation without being rude, I will block you for personal attacks. I don't want to do that, so please stop accusing Farmanesh of wrongdoing. Sarcastic remarks like this do not help. You're not going to win this by attacking him or questioning his motives. You only have two options: provide a page number or accept the fact that there will be dispute tags on the article until someone else provides a page number. There is no other option, and if you continue the personal attacks I will have no choice but to stop you. Kafziel Talk 13:58, 6 April 2007 (UTC)"

[edit] A beer for you

  It's Miller time!

Looks like we've come to an understanding, and that's all anyone can ask. Thanks for continuing to discuss the problem instead of edit warring. Some people would give you a cup of tea for that, but I think arguments like this one call for a beer. So sit back, relax, and have a cold one!
Kafziel Talk 18:49, 6 April 2007 (UTC)


[edit] Regional power

Hi, how are you. just wanted to mention a few things;

  • South Asia is not a sub-region of Asia-Pacific. I have edited the Asia-Pacific article, as it was wrong about a few things.
  • East Asia shouldnt be considered a sub-region of Asia-Pacific. It is a region in its own right.
  • There is no land area known simply as Pacific.
  • If Australia is to be included as a regional power it can only be as part of Asia-Pacific or Oceania. I think Oceania might be best. Asia-Pacific is a rather impresise ill-defined region.
  • There should not be a section about Southeastern Europe. I suggest we put Turkey, Iran and Israel in a section called Southwest Asia; as Middle-East is also ill-defined
  • Can you find a source saying Saudi Arabia is a regional power? I think most people would agree it is, but i havent found a source explicitly saying it yet.

Cheers Willy turner 02:30, 7 May 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for your message, lets bring this discussion to regional power talk page.Farmanesh 02:57, 7 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Developed country

Hello Farmanesh. I'd like to ask for your help in the article developed country where a user is using boosterism practises to "talk up" Brazil. I know you're a good contributor and you're certainly in pro of using references. Well, the references of this user are not in English (it is required, suggested but not enforced) and doesn't back up his claims. He's reverting the page so much I can't take it anymore. I'd appreciate your help in mediating with him, because he just won't listen to me. I tried to talk to him and even tried to be friendly but he just doesn't get the point. AlexCovarrubias ( Talk? ) 04:16, 12 May 2007 (UTC)

Yeah, I have directly talked to him, look at his talk page. That user is adding unsourced information about Brazil and deleting information about Mexico to "talk up" Brazil. So I have been talking to him a lot but he just doesn't understand that he must add sources. I don't think we need a mediator, since this is not an edit war involving POVs. This is just that he wants to add unsourced information, that's all. Just check his talk page. He and his friend passed the article Brazil as a "Good article", and it was removed due to a lot of problems. They are just practicing boosterism. I hope you can help, talk to him, tell him to add sources. AlexCovarrubias ( Talk? ) 16:45, 12 May 2007 (UTC)
Thanks for your suggestions, I will do it now. AlexCovarrubias ( Talk? ) 17:03, 12 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Please always include edit summaries

Hello. Please don't forget to provide an edit summary. Your recent minor edit to Policy analysis did not include a summary. Thank you. --Nemilar 19:26, 23 July 2007 (UTC)

You don't have to include an edit summary, particularly in repeated edits of the same article within a short period. But it's often a good idea, especially where you're new to an article or the edits may need justification among regulars.
Thanks for reverting the further attempt by ... a rightwing functionary? ... to create bias in the IRI article. We need to watch it. I've added a little information to bring some balance to it over the past month, and changed "democratic" to "political" at the top. Tony (talk) 04:46, 24 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Request to block 206.57.121.14

Hi Farmanesh, I've semi-protected the International Republican Institute article because of 206.57.121.14's problematical edits, however his/her other edits appear to be reasonable, so I would prefer not to block at this stage. I'll leave your report posted at AIV in case another admin disagrees. Hope this is ok.--Addhoc 17:51, 26 October 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Naymz

A tag has been placed on Naymz, requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under the criteria for speedy deletion, because the article seems to be blatant advertising which only promotes a company, product, group, service or person and would need to be fundamentally rewritten in order to become an encyclopedia article. Please read the general criteria for speedy deletion, particularly item 11, as well as the guidelines on spam.

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[edit] Friendly note on reverting

Re Iran Air Flight 655, This is not meant to argue whether or not the idea you would like included: despite the US warship being inside Iranian territorial water and having positioned itself directly under international commercial flight lanes at the time of firing.

When you revert it removes any other improvements in the article since the version you are reverting too. The change I made was to correct one word, which was unrelated to the idea you reverted to. This means that I either have to make the correction again or just live with it. Instead of reverting, consider simply adding the idea to a current version. Anynobody 23:43, 16 November 2007 (UTC)

I answered the point on user's talkpage.Farmanesh (talk) 00:42, 17 November 2007 (UTC)
Thanks for your note on my talk page. If I understood your note correctly, I guess you didn't look close enough to the change I made. I only reverted one part. Please have a look again to the change I made: [3]
As you see, what I intended to change was your addition of "Shot down due to incorrect identification as an Iranian F-14 Tomcat" to the summary table. As I described in the short note, that is one side's story.
If I didn't understand your point, please feel free to leave me a clarifying message.Farmanesh (talk) 00:41, 17 November 2007 (UTC)
(I prefer to keep conversations in one place, so I'm posting this reply both here and your talk page. Respond where you want this conversation to continue.)
You didn't (understand) I'm afraid, you also reverted this edit. My point is if you feel that the cause of the accident was "Civillian airliner shoot-down", simply edit the page accordingly. When you revert, you also undo non-POV related changes too. Anynobody 02:43, 17 November 2007 (UTC)
This is confusing. I delibratly left out that change and if you see here [4] it is actually user:Dual Freq who reverted the change you are mentioning. I only made this change as I can see [5]. If it is still not clear I would be happy to talk more.
One caveat, the specific change I made had nothing to do with what I personally think happened there. It is a fact that Iran government has different view on the issue with US government and thats what we refelect in the article, but it is unrelated to what I think.Farmanesh (talk) 03:57, 17 November 2007 (UTC)
To clarify, I'm just saying that when editors see the term "RV" in an edit summary, it can tend to cause further reverting by others who only focus on the fact that something was reverted. Rather than revert the statement you feel inaccurate, if you edited to be accurate, it could serve to assuage secondary reversions. Sorry to have been unclear. Anynobody 04:15, 17 November 2007 (UTC)
ok, now your point makes sense.Farmanesh (talk) 04:25, 17 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Good report on the IP addresses to AIV

Thank you for reporting those two IP addresses. Even though they hadn't been warned, the nature of their edits (apparently posting each other's or some associate's personal information in the course of their vandalism) was severe enough that I blocked them even without the "full set" of warnings. Additionally, the article on the Military of Iran was protected by another admin for 72 hours to prevent further vandalism (though I think they picked the article randomly; they next vandalized Hiroshima before they were blocked). —C.Fred (talk) 19:50, 18 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Typo

I've reverted your edit at Due Process. At first I thought it was vandalism, because it was a redlink. But, I now see that there really is an article about a typo. But in any event, it's allegedly in the Takings Clause, rather than the Due Process Clause, so it really doesn't seem to belong in the Due Process article, IMHO.Ferrylodge 19:45, 2 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Persian Gulf question

You wrote:

(Arcayne) "Right, but all three terms refer to the same body of water, correct?"
(Farmanesh) :No my freind, Red Sea is completly different than Persian Gulf. Red Sea has been called Arabian Gulf in few historical case but it has nothing to do with Persian Gulf. Beside Red Sea mistake, your proposal has the WP:Undue weight problem which has been discussed many times before and again in some extent now."

I thought that we might discuss this here a bit, away from all the insipid incivility that seems to be plaguing the page (likely originating from a single source, but being perpetuated by others). I wanted to clarify that you state that the terms the Red Sea, Persian Gulf and Arabian Gulf all refer to different bodies of whater? I am not addressing the UNDUE question right now. I am just seeing if the items are all different (if contested) names for the same thing. Geography was never my strong point at university (I took firsts in Politics and History, and a second in Psychology). If you want to respond on my page, you can, but I'll watchlist your page, if you want to respond here instead. - Arcayne (cast a spell) 20:00, 3 December 2007 (UTC)

Gah, I just went a-looking and discovered that the Red Sea is on one side of SA, and the contested name is on the other. Sorry about that.
Can you explain to me your undue argument for not including Arabian Gulf? - Arcayne (cast a spell) 20:05, 3 December 2007 (UTC)
Hi, Thanks for your message. I guess we are disscusing this activley in the talk page of the article, so I leave it to there.Farmanesh 01:23, 4 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Persian Gulf mediation cabal case

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[edit] Ph.D.

Is there any reason you redirected this from the main Doctor of Philosophy page to PhD candicacy? The use of the term is explained at the top. PhD candicy doesn't even exist in a number of countries so the change in redirect doesn't really make sense to me and I reverted it Nil Einne (talk) 18:16, 27 January 2008 (UTC)


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[edit] Persian Gulf

It seems like a pretty straightforward edit war to me. The editors involved were still undoing all or a part of each other's edits while the talkpage discussion was going on. Protection is not a good thing, but it seems to me that there are still issues that need to be resolved, considering how people started reverting each other just days after protection expiration. Nishkid64 (talk) 03:28, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

I wasn't planning to leave the article protected indefinitely. I only chose that expiry option because I was unsure when the article should be unprotected. If there's some progress on mediation, then I'll unprotect. If the article's gone through a month without progress, then I'll unprotect then, too. Nishkid64 (talk) 03:40, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Fair use rationale for Image:BWSEAL.GIF

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[edit] Maps

Hi! If you want to do maps of a countries subdivions, go to the gData website, then select "administrative divisions", "roads", "railways", or anything else you want on the map, then, select a country from the list, you'll have to download a ZIP file, then, extract the file(s) with the file extension ".shp" and upload it to MapSharer where you can edit the map. When you finished, download the map as an EPS, and convert it to SVG, best using Ghostscript and GSview. Then, edit the map to meet your needs using Inkscape. If you need further help, or if you want me to make a map for you as an example, just ask :-) --escondites 08:05, 22 February 2008 (UTC)

Have you tried this? escondites 17:33, 22 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Middle power article

Hello, I've made a topic on the discussion page of the middle power article regarding Russia as a middle power, and I'd like your input since you're the one who reverted my change. Thanks! 99.240.27.210 (talk) 06:59, 7 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Three-revert rule

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[edit] help with vandalism issue

Hi Farmanesh: I would like to ask your help because I am not familiar with the process of asking for protection of a page that is being vandalized. The Magdi Allam page has been vandalized several times, because some anonymous users do not like the fact that he converted from Islam to Roman Catholocism, and now falsely change the article to claim that he was a Christian Coptic. I have addressed these false claims on the Discussion Page of Magdi Allam. But that will not be enough. The page needs protection. How can I get the page protected? If you could explain in detail what must be done (assume no knowledge on my part) or do it yourself - I would be vert grateful. Thanks in advance. SelfEvidentTruths (talk) 20:58, 24 March 2008 (UTC)

Hi, If there is Wikipedia:Vandalism going on you can report here: Wikipedia:Administrator intervention against vandalism
If you need page protection you can report here: Wikipedia:Requests for page protection
I suggest you to make sure you have tried to talk with those who you disagree with before doing the above. best, Farmanesh (talk) 21:02, 24 March 2008 (UTC)


[edit] Typo redirect 'budget-maximizing' model

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[edit] Daryaayeh Fars (Persian Gulf)

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[edit] Chiang Mai Initiative

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[edit] Middle Power

Hi. I removed the map because it does not tally with the countries listed. For example, Russia is listed as a potential Middle Power on the list, but not shown on the map. Thanks. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Colliver55 (talk • contribs) 18:32, 29 May 2008 (UTC) I am happy for the data to remain in table format, but the map is misleading and showing incorrect data. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Colliver55 (talk • contribs) 18:45, 29 May 2008 (UTC)

I have added the topic on the talk page.