Talk:Farouk of Egypt

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[edit] name and number

Hey, doesn't this and the related pages violate the rule about only numbering kings when there are more than one of the same name? And what's this POV "stolen" anyway? (It's like accusing Saddam Hussein of stealing from state bank accounts when all the laws had genuinely said he could take those moneys from those bank accounts.)

I should clarify: what he took from abroad was licensed taking, both as sovereign immunity and by the consent of those giving the things up. I was not commenting on the morality but on the legal forms. PML.

There is no such rule of numbering monarchs. A monarch may have the number I if he styles himself that way, even if there (so far) hasn't been any other king by that name in that country. Another example of this is Frederick I of Sweden, who ruled in the 18th Century and where there hasn't yet been any other King Frederick. John Anderson 08:18, 25 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] penultimate

"King Farouk of Egypt (February 11, 1920 - March 18, 1965) was the penultimate King of Egypt," Oh? That would make Fuad I the antepenultimate King of egypt. So who was the last king of Egypt then? heh heh Wetman 05:27, 23 Jul 2004 (UTC)

  • The last king of Egypt was Farouk's son, Fuad II of Egypt who succeeded his father after the latter's forced abdication. Orbicle 09:27, 9 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] saying

There is a saying we used in our family,"who do you think you are? King Farouk?" when some body wanted something beyound what was to be had. I do not know if this is common, but if it is, it should be included.

We had the same saying. Maybe it was common in the early 1950s. Possible it also connoted gluttony or obesity.Lestrade 00:41, 19 September 2006 (UTC)Lestrade

[edit] Suggested excisions pending verification

1. Reference to King Fuad as not speaking Arabic because "he was native Albanian". The article on Fuad states hat he was born in Giza Palace in Cairo. So he was not native Albanian if he was born in Egypt. The contention that he spoke no Arabic is not substantiated in the Farouk article. Perhaps, as with many rulers of European houses in the past, the lingua franca of the aristocratic classes was French and though they could speak the national language, they chose to communicate in the "civilised" language, i.e. French. It was also common in the Egypt of Farouk's time for the majority of the European population as well as the educated Egyptians to speak several languages, especially French, but including English, Italian, Greek, Arabic and to a lesser degree, German.

2. Farouk's alleged third marriage to Irma Capece Minutolo is referred to in an article in Al Ahram which includes an interview with Mme Minutolo. In it, she claims to have been married to Farouk, but the article itself is sceptical. I think the reference to a third marriage should be excluded until some evidence (other than Mme. Minutolo's claim) can be cited.Orbicle 09:27, 9 October 2006 (UTC)

        • Someone keeps reverting edits that state that the marriage between Farouk and Minutolo is just a claim. No evidence has been put forward except Minutolo's own assertion. If there is some corroborating evidence, please let's have it! Orbicle 15:01, 17 October 2006 (UTC)

Perhaps it would be good to include something about Farouk's relationship with the British - I'm not a historian, so I can't do it. davidinnottingham

[edit] Fuad's Arabic

In the book Too Rich by William Stadiem, the author states that Fuad could not speak Arabic. It did not say which language he did speak as his first language... —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Azalea pomp (talk • contribs) 09:11, 11 January 2007 (UTC).

Correct me if i'm wrong, but isn't the tone of the author leaning towards complete criticism of the King. And although he was corrupt, wasn't Egypt economically and socially much better off prior to the revolution. I do admit King Farouk isn't one of the personalities I strongly know about but I was under a completely differetn impression??

[edit] King Farouk time to recognize the man

Being born in Egypt before King Farouk was sent to exile, and at dawn of the 1952 Revolution, we grew up hearing all good things about the king and the Royal Family from the older generations, parents and grandparents. But off course we were making fun of them as being " Old Timers "?! We were taught the totaly the oposite, and we were mislead by learing false history in school. Now the old genration is long gone, but they were right. Is in it time for this man to get the recognition he deserves by bringing out the truth? He might had some mistakes, but don't we all? At least when it was time to save what could be a blood shed and chose to peacefully leave the country. —Preceding unsigned comment added by NourAnwar (talk • contribs) 05:23, 16 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] lapse in chronology

the article jumps from 1945 to 1952 without referring to the perios as the king during the 1948 war and it's defeat in the war. If anyone has any information about it, it must be included into the article ASAP. Oren neu dag 21:25, 2 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Interwiki

How do I add an interwiki to the norwegian article in this protected article? Cheers, JohnnyGoodfella (talk) 23:44, 29 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Mention of Farouk's notorious pornography collection

This might be useful to include under the "Marriages and Affairs" or "Trivia" section. Quoted in Ochsenwald's The Middle East: A History 6th edition, pg. 585: "The corruptness of King [Farouk] (who became notorious for his collection of pornography) and his supporters made politics unstable in Egypt." —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.22.42.15 (talk) 06:56, 7 May 2008 (UTC)