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[edit] The Dam

okay, does anyone know why the dam (the radio station) was shut down? i'd like to know Starwarsnerd 16:52, 10 March 2006 (UTC)

Educated rumor has it the companies that own all of the radio stations around town hired out of town survey companies to test the demographic. Since the majority of people 18-25 only have a Mobile phone, thus illegal to survey, all of the people tested requested more Country. So, this is what we have, all country. Unless the radio companies wake up (which they wont) I recommend going out and buying a cowboy hat, or an Ipod. Yipie Kai Eh (or something). Technoscience 18:50, 18 March 2006 (UTC)
Wasn't it call "The DAMM" with two 'm's or am I mistaken? Either way, pity that it is gone. I graduated High school with their DJ 'Jack Spade'--Bschott 17:00, 14 July 2006 (UTC)
It's always been one "M" though some people have mistakenly spelled it "Damn". I think they went country because the last Arbitron ratings book showed country station Froggy 99.9 as the most listened station once again, and Clear Channel Communications went furious. "Jack Spade" is on Q98 now I think.--grejlen - talk 05:48, 8 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Notable natives...

A ton of notable natives were just added to the article. Several of these people I'm not so sure ever spent much time in Fargo and I question their inclusion. What do other users think of all of these people being included in the list? --MatthewUND(talk) 09:33, 1 February 2006 (UTC)

My mistake. I was thinking that it was a page on the state for some reason. LilianPhoebs 16:46, 1 February 2006 (UTC)
No problem! --MatthewUND(talk) 22:52, 1 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Fargo North High School

I have removed the recently added link to Fargo North High School. Please see Talk:Fargo North High School where I question the worthiness of such articles for individual schools. Regardless, it is not really worth having a wikilink to in this main Fargo article. Such a link would really only belong in the Fargo Public Schools article. Good articles (like we all want to make this one, right?) should not contain excessive lists. --MatthewUND(talk) 06:39, 6 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Inncorrect Schools

Park Christian was listed as being one of four parochial schools in Fargo; however, Park Christian is actually in Moorehead. --—Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.230.68.94 (talk • contribs)

Did they mean the south Fargo campus? It's actually in both states now. --SSJPabs 18:17, 12 July 2006 (UTC)SSJPabs

[edit] Largest City In The State

I am removing the re-occuring -Citation Needed- tag as not only is it common knowledge that the city is the largest in the state, but a quick look at any other city population in the state will confirm this. --—Preceding unsigned comment added by Bschott (talk • contribs)

I don't think anyone is disputing the fact that Fargo is the "largest city in the state". The text that some users feel requires a citation is the 2006 population estimate. I won't put back in the "citation needed" tag myself, but it would be good if you could find a website that details this 2006 population estimate. Until then, it sounds more like pure speculation to readers with a critical eye. BTW, remember to sign all of your comments. --MatthewUND(talk) 03:51, 16 July 2006 (UTC)
I added a reference to what I was able to find on this matter --Ndstate 22:10, 29 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Aakers Business College

Since Fargo has two colleges, it is only fair to mention them both. NDSU, while a state college, shouldn't be given a carte blanch on the page.--Bschott 21:23, 15 July 2006 (UTC)

I would encourage other editors of this page and other ND articles to put in their two cents in this matter. I obviously have no problem with including a mention of Aakers in the "Higher education" section (I put it in that section), but I'm not so sure about including it in the intro paragraphs. This first section should be a quick overview of the city of Fargo and only contain mentions of important facts and major institutions. I just don't think that a college the size of Aakers needs to be included in this first section. BTW, I hope you won't insinuate that I am an unfair editor of Fargo/NDSU articles simply because I am a UND student. If you look at most ND-related articles you will see that I am one of the most avid editors of all such articles. It wouldn't make me a very good wikipedian if I let any kind of favoratism get in my way. --MatthewUND(talk) 03:57, 16 July 2006 (UTC)
Matthew the thing is, I am from Fargo and have been for most of my life, and while NDSU is a state college and well known in the community, it isn't the only college. In point of fact, if we are talking about a Higher Education section I believe I/we also have forgotten Mary's College, and the Skills and Technology Center. I understand the Bias in only wishing to include a long time UND rival as the only major college in Fargo, but you may have missed the fact that Aakers also is a 4 year college and owned by the University of Phoenix. That makes it fairly significant in the community and while NDSU has been more well known for a longer time, Aakers has been making significant strides in the community.
The point I want to make is, since I am a resident of Fargo and an older member of the community with a stable career (I have lived here most of my life, missing only one year when I was away for college), I think that I would know better on what is concidered significant in Fargo than a UND current college student that lives in Grand Forks. I applaude your efforts but they do show a Bias (through no fault of your own except not being a resident of the community's pages you edit). I have no problems with you editing anything about UND or Grand Forks, but I have serious reservations on you making any changes to Fargo's Article. --Bschott 15:06, 16 July 2006 (UTC)
I don't understand why you think I have something against mentioning other Fargo higher education institutions in this article. In fact, the article is incomplete without mentions of these other institutions. My only problem has been that the intro section is almost always reserved for only the largest and most prominent institutions in a community.
I find your insinuation that I am inherently biased in editing pages about Fargo or NDSU to be unfortunate. Of my 6,000+ edits, a majority have been to ND articles and you would be hard pressed to find bias in them. You will quickly learn that good editors on Wikipedia should be able to edit any article without inserting bias. Also, being a citizen of a certain community and having a "stable career" there is not prerequisite for editing that community's Wikipedia article. -MatthewUND(talk) 08:54, 19 July 2006 (UTC)
I have lived in Moorhead for over 25 years and don't believe Aakers belongs in the intro paragraph either. The other institutions of higher education relative to NDSU are minor in comparsion and in impact to the city. I see no problem with substituting "and a number of vocational/technical/specialized (choose whatever word is best) educational institutions" in the intro paragraph and detailing them in the higher education section. I have seen no evidence of any kind of UND bias by MatthewUND. I mean no offense but this may be a case of "not seeing the forest for the trees" on your part. (SSJPabs)

[edit] More Pro-UND Bias

"UND" or "University of North Dakota" appears 5 times in an article about Fargo? Please remove them, they are completely unnecessary. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.2.242.82 (talk • contribs)

It is also worth noting that there are zero references to NDSU in the Grand Forks article. —Preceding unsigned comment added by GothmogLOB (talk • contribs)

[edit] Sports Teams Removal

I think its funny that you said the sports team reference was not appropriate in the higher ed section, yet the grand forks article has one: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grand_Forks#Higher_education —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 134.129.67.153 (talk) 20:40, 29 March 2007 (UTC).

[edit] Radisson image

I have concerns over using the picture of the Radisson Hotel in the Fargo infobox. The infobox picture is supposed to either be an image of a city's skyline or of a notable landmark or vista. I'm not sure how a picture of a hotel fulfills that. Also, the Radisson picture has no copyright information and appears to have come from this website. --MatthewUND(talk) 02:32, 3 April 2007 (UTC)

I agree. I will remove it for the reasons you have stated. Additionally there appears to be a watermark on it. --Ndstate 21:44, 3 April 2007 (UTC)
I just added a pic of the Fargo Theater. That pic also does not show the skyline, but it is probably a more familiar symbol of Fargo than the Radisson. I'm going to keep looking for a skyline pic. --MatthewUND(talk) 23:25, 9 April 2007 (UTC)
Where did that pic go? I think it would be better for the main info box pic, then the one that is currently there. --Ndstate 03:52, 21 May 2007 (UTC)
You mean you liked the Fargo Theater pic better than these "skyline" pics this other user has been putting up? Me too. These other pics have questionable licensing status and aren't that great really. The first one showed the downtown skyline during a flood...rather odd. This last one is mainly showing the senior citizen high-rise. I think I'll go ahead and put back the Fargo Theater pic for now. It would be nice to find a skyline pic of some sort..or maybe a pic showing Broadway downtown...that would be nice. --MatthewUND(talk) 04:01, 21 May 2007 (UTC)
I agree with you. --Ndstate 18:46, 21 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Spin off media?

Does anybody else think we could stand to spin off the "Media" section into its own article? That's what we have with the Grand Forks article - the station lists have been spun off to Media in Grand Forks, North Dakota. Let me know what you think. --MatthewUND(talk) 22:56, 9 April 2007 (UTC)

I think it could be done --Ndstate 03:39, 12 April 2007 (UTC)
I spun it off into Fargo-Moorhead media.--milk the cows (Talk) 06:38, 5 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Media Print section

I dont mean to make anyone mad here, but I think it is incredibly lame to include "Tidbits" as a part of our "print" media in Fargo. It's not even a Fargo based product, Tidbits is everywhere in the country. If you are gonna list this, you might as well list every place that sells a USA Today or NY Times as well.

12.162.213.5 00:58, 16 April 2007 (UTC)Josh

I agree...it is lame to mention Tidbits. I just removed the reference. --MatthewUND(talk) 07:43, 16 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Flood image

Does anybody else think it's a little bit odd that the skyline picture currently being used in the infobox is from a flood? If not for the presence of the flood, this would be a nice skyline pic, but it's a little odd having the main pic in this article be a flood. It just doesn't strike me as the kind of first impression we should be putting out there. Also, the pic was taken from a blog. We can't use it unless the blogger took the picture himself and unless he was the editor who uploaded it on here. --MatthewUND(talk) 06:59, 20 May 2007 (UTC)

A much better one is needed. Sorry I cant take one, I will not be in Fargo until August. --Ndstate 03:16, 21 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Metro Area Population

First of all I suppose this is called discussion not talk...

Anyway, I fixed the Metro Population numbers and based my info on Census data: http://factfinder.census.gov/servlet/DTTable?_bm=y&-context=dt&-ds_name=DEC_2000_SF1_U&-CONTEXT=dt&-mt_name=DEC_2000_SF1_U_P001&-tree_id=4001&-redoLog=false&-all_geo_types=N&-_caller=geoselect&-geo_id=38000US2520&-search_results=38000US2520&-format=&-_lang=en

Please do not keep changing this without discussing it first. I do not know of a better source then the govt.--Ndstate 03:41, 21 June 2007 (UTC)


[edit] Economy / Notable Local Companies

I noticed that Microsoft is listed as :

Microsoft - a division (Microsoft Dynamics GP, formerly Great Plains Software) of the software giant is located in Fargo

...when in fact Microsoft Dynamics GP is actually the name of one of the products under the Dynamics brand. Perhaps a better wording would be :

Microsoft - the Business Solutions Group (Microsoft Dynamics, formerly Great Plains Software) of the software giant is located in Fargo

as it's currently described on this page : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microsoft#Business_Division

thoughts? MatthewNDSU 08:36, 4 October 2007 (UTC)

  • Good catch Mat, however (as I worked there for a year) the division in town actually supports not only the Business solutions (GP, CRM, Sharepoint) they also have other support and development not related to the Business solutions side of MS. I'm personally thinking that the Microsoft Dynamics GP should be removed and just leave the 'formerly Great Plains Software'. Great Plains was only one of five software packages that Great Plains software had when MS bought them out. --Brian(view my history)/(How am I doing?) 18:37, 27 November 2007 (UTC)