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[edit] Welcome

Welcome!

Hello, Fanra, and welcome to Wikipedia! Thank you for your contributions. I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Here are some pages that you might find helpful:

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[edit] PNRC

Your recent edit to Philippine National Red Cross was copied from another source without permission. Please don't violate copyright on Wikipedia. Novalis 16:45, 17 April 2007 (UTC)

    • I updated my userpage to respond. Novalis 19:15, 17 April 2007 (UTC)
  • I rewrote my edit to satisfy any possible copyright issues. Fanra 13:21, 18 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] "Organisations"

Please see Wikipedia:Tutorial (Keep in mind)#English dialects and Wikipedia:Manual of Style (spelling). 76.22.4.86 03:00, 18 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Award

For re-protecting the Main Page when it somehow got unprotected and was under attack. Fanra 10:37, 19 April 2007 (UTC)

Thank you! Someone using a sysop account (perhaps a hijacker) was deleting, unprotecting and vandalising the main page. Several other users worked to restore, protect and revert the page, so I've passed along the barnstar to them.  :-) —David Levy 11:11, 19 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] RE: Public Domain Astronaut

I figured that out, and welcome to Wikipedia. - PatricknoddyTALK (reply here)|HISTORY 18:30, 19 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Looking for Help

On the Buster Keaton page, at the bottom, there is a box that says his name and lists all his films. This box:

v • d • e
The films of Buster Keaton
Shorts with Roscoe Arbuckle
(1917-1920)
Shorts starring Keaton
(1920-1923)
For Educational Pictures
(1934-1937)
For Columbia Pictures
(1939-1941)
Pest from the West · Mooching Through Georgia · Nothing but Pleasure · Pardon My Berth Marks · The Taming of the Snood · The Spook Speaks · His Ex Marks the Spot · So You Won't Squawk! · General Nuisance · She's Oil Mine
For independent producers
(1952-1966)
Paradise for Buster · Film · The Railrodder · The Scribe
Feature Films
(1920-1965)
Cameo roles
(1929-1966)

I went looking for how to find it and edit it since it lists the film "Love Nest On Wheels", yet the link doesn't go to Love Nest On Wheels, so I wanted to fix it.

This relates to my other problem, how do I search only the internal (help, editing) part of Wikipedia? I mean if I put in Buster Keaton into the search box, it won't show me the above box. Is there some way I can search for things like that? Right now I have to go to the help page and look at every list of every thing and try to find stuff. Is there some way to search the help stuff?

Thank you. Fanra 00:17, 20 April 2007 (UTC)

Have a look at Template:Buster_Keaton. Links are case-sensitive, so the lower-case o in 'on Wheels' doesn't work.

The reason for why you didn't find that box, is because it is a template. To search for those, type Buster Keaton, press search and select templates only on the bottom of the result page, and then do a new search. To search within the help namespace, select help. :) Bjelleklang - talk Bug Me 00:25, 20 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Posada redoux

F: Tue, however, the problems with the National Security Archive documents include that they are that they are selected by the archivists of this often militant organization; they are not original documents but those which have been selectively censored and it is not always clear if the sections blacked out include material other than censored by the source. Still if one keeps in mind those caveats these documents can be useful. I would prefer if the National Security Archive origens of the documents were mentioned... selective removal of material, in one socks (:)) is not unknown in US archives. However, this is better than the 70 year or so limitation of some European countries. Will try and insert names and origins of passengers on flight 455. Trying to track down a report that the Cuban government did not wish the plane's recovery when this was offered by the British Government. There may be far more to this than seems apparent at first sight. El Jigue208.65.188.149 22:53, 12 May 2007 (UTC)

F: Thank you: you make an excellent correction and a fine point considering that Chavez when calling Carlos, a well defined and very definite terrorist, a good friend is even better evidence of partiality. Very careless of me to rely on my memory, I will find reference on Chavez seeking the Jackal's release El Jigue208.65.188.149 15:56, 13 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Terrorist = Freedom Fighter (Luis Posada Carriles)

The word TERRORIST is the same as FREEDOM FIGHTER, it just depends on who says it.. That is why I feel in the first line of the article it should say " terrorist/freedom fighter". Arafat was a terrorist to Israel yet to Arabs he is a freedom fighter.. What is the difference between Arafat and Posada? Are suicide bombers in Iraq terrorists or fredom fighters, because they want the US out of their country? Were Zionists freedom fighters or terrorists to the British in Israel? Again I say, one groups terrorist is another groups freedom fighter. The words are interchangeable. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Callelinea (talk • contribs) 05:39, 15 May 2007 (UTC).

Under strict Wikipedia rules, you're right. We can quibble about this. We can split hairs. We can turn this issue around and around and determine that a person who planted two time-bombs on an airplane, killing 73 innocent people, isn't exactly a terrorist, not quite. His actions may fall under some other designation. He might be a killer, for example, or a mass-murderer. He might be a militant, as some editors have suggested. Still, most people if they look without blinking would say he is a terrorist, and in the interest of fitting descriptive words to actions, "terrorist" is the first choice of semantics. User:Griot 23:00, 29 June 2007 (UTC)

So you want to keep splitting hairs about this? Please go to the Carriles Talk page and try to define a terrorist. Griot 20:39, 7 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Glenn Beck

Your edits, when taken as a whole, were so biased that it seemed necessary to revert the article. Your multiple incremental edits added up to quite a bit of bias, and were unacceptable from an NPOV perspective. Perhaps I should have taken the time to change only the offending edits, and at the same time, they constituted the majority of your edits. You will notice that your edits since my revert were not also reverted, as they were not biased, and did not violate Wikipedia's NPOV guidelines as your previous edits did.

That said, thank you for pointing out some etiquette with which I was unfamiliar, as I am pretty new here. I will strive to improve my etiquette, and at the same time, I kindly ask that you refrain from editing articles such as the Glenn Beck article in such a way as to twist the article into the expression of a narrow viewpoint. From what I know about Wikipedia, we are striving to provide accurate information, not cater to personal bias. Lawfamily 04:14, 20 May 2007 (UTC)

Fanra, your edits make it absolutely clear you are biased against Glenn Beck and/or what he communicates through his shows, but you are intelligent and calculated enough to go to reasonable lengths to disguise it. You did indeed censor the information about his ratings growth, and the fact that the ratings grew that much isn't senseless, you just don't want people to know about it. The sentence is indeed informative, you just don't want it there, so you make assertions that make it crystal clear that your concern isn't truth or clarity, but rather to supress information you dislike. That is censorship, like it or not. The only standards you are trying to "get the article up to" are your personal preferences, and thank goodness you don't own it, becuase your actions make it clear how you would treat it if you had any authority to abuse.Lawfamily 21:42, 20 May 2007 (UTC)

I just read your most recent edits, and they were, for the most part, acceptable. After your last outburst, I am not surprised you are attempting to appear less biased. You made a comment regarding truth, which is interesting. For somebody who I would guess is a university professor or a student, you certainly don't know much about English grammar. You claimed a quote was incorrect when I used ellipsis to shorten a quote for clarity. My using a truncated version of the quote was not incorrect, it was incomplete. Since you reverted my edit, and as I have nothing against the full context being displayed, I will let your reversion stand, but I expect you will in the future attempt to change or remove other quotes or information, as you have in the past, when you dislike the content, despite the fact that to a neutral party, the information would be appreciated and considered informative. The quotes I added contribute valuable context and summarize many of the points of the program, informing the reader while quoting as briefly as possible, and focusing exclusively on Glenn Beck's quotes. Lawfamily 22:02, 20 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Organization of the emergency medical assistance

Please proceed. As a French guy, I don't pretend to write English as good as a native speaker…

Regards

cdang|write me 10:11, 29 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] micromastia

Fanra, I responded to your message re micromastia. I hope what I wrote explains the context of that medical terminology.Droliver 03:26, 31 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Economics of new nuclear power plants

Hello! You had a number of concerns. Based on my experience in the industry and from reading for Wikipedia I tried to address them. Hope they help. Simesa 03:53, 31 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Re: Human Rights in Islam (book)

Hi. I actually did not delete the page, but only redirected it (though you are correct that I did not merge anything). Deletion involves removing a page's history from public view, whereas the page history of that article is still available. I realise that the page had been proposed for merging (in fact, I was the one who proposed it), but the content of the article (i.e., details about the book) was not suitable for inclusion in Sayyid Abul Ala Maududi. The latter article should be about the life of Sayyid Abul Ala Maududi rather than a detailed description of his books.

The reason I redirected the page, instead of simply leaving it as it was, is that the article does not prove the notability of its subject. Does the book perhaps meet criterion 5 of the notability guideline for books?

The book's author is so historically significant that any of his or her written works may be considered notable, even in the absence of secondary sources.

I looked for secondary sources about the book, but there seemed to be rather few. Most sources were either about human rights in Islam (not the book, but the concept) or simply presented the text of Maududi's book. As my initial search was limited to English-language results on Google, I will perform a more comprehensive search now, looking for information in databases of academic journal articles and also for German-, French-, and Spanish-language results. Perhaps an expanded search could turn up something. If it does, I'll incorporate the sources into the article. If it doesn't, we can proceed from there. Cheers, Black Falcon (Talk) 02:33, 1 June 2007 (UTC)

Discussion on the merge is, of course, open as long as people still want to talk about it. When I redirected the page, I was not trying to impose a solution, but rather had simply not noticed the comments you had made at Talk:Sayyid Abul Ala Maududi as I had forgotten to watchlist the page. Had I known that you had objected to the idea of the merge, I would not have redirected the page without discussion ... I'm bold, but not reckless. :) Again, I will look for some sources that could be used to bolster the article and, if I find any, will add them. I will post a brief comment at that talk page shortly. Cheers, Black Falcon (Talk) 03:14, 1 June 2007 (UTC)
I have rewritten the article, replacing the entirety of its content and incorporating three reliable secondary sources. I think the article is substantially improved (see the before and after). Your feeling that the book is notable turned out to be correct, so I'm glad that you reverted me. Cheers, Black Falcon (Talk) 06:33, 3 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Accidental revert

Disregard this edit - literally a slip of the finger. Raul654 16:37, 14 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Tireless and Balanced

The Tireless Contributor Barnstar
For Dedicated contribution to many articles and particularly controvesial subjects with such keen regard for NPOV.

Awarded by Sherzo 11:05, 18 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Help with Jamaat-e-Islami

Your efforts to make Sayyid Abul Ala Maududi POV-free were very appreciable. I was wondering if you would be willing to look at the page Jamaat-e-Islami since these two articles share subject matters and the latter is infested with POV as well. Thanks. --Aslamt 00:23, 20 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Orphaned non-free image (Image:Stevegoodman albumcover.jpg)

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[edit] micromastia

Fanra, I would gently dispute that there is controversy over the term "micromastia" per se. After all, that word is really a grab bag of pathologies for hypoplasia. You're really equating micromastia with the unique American history surrounding cosmetic breast augmentation which is a different animal and really touched on more in the article on implants, and that is linked to in the micromastia entry. Wikipedia is nominally a world-view treatment of these things, which makes the particular American political hang-up over breasts out of place when you're dryly trying to present a non-partisan presentation of a medical descriptor.

cheers! RobDroliver 00:42, 7 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Image:Smokeybear onlyyou1985.jpg

Just so you know, I replaced your Smokey Bear image with the free version from Commons, Image:Smokey3.jpg.[1] Unless you have some objection, I think Image:Smokeybear onlyyou1985.jpg can be deleted. -- Ricky81682 (talk) 08:12, 18 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Arbitration request

Hi Fanra. I've removed your arbitration request, because the arbitrators rejected it at 0/4/0/0. I noticed you asked how to proceed with dispute resolution in case of rejection; in case you didn't see his response, Newyorkbrad said the following:

"In response to Fanra's question about what should happen next if this case is declined, please refer to Wikipedia:Dispute resolution for earlier steps in the dispute resolution process that should be pursued. If a member of the Mediation Committee is reading here, you may wish to take a look at this matter. Newyorkbrad 11:40, 20 July 2007 (UTC)"

Picaroon (Talk) 18:21, 22 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] List of United States Government apologies

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[edit] AfD nomination of List of Vehicles with Event Data Recorders

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[edit] AfD nomination of Comparison of power plants

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[edit] WPMED list of open tasks

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[edit] History of Terrorism recent edits

I noticed you contributed heavily to the History of terrorism article and wondered if you could review some recent edits since they seem a bit POV and Disproportinate in weight. http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=History_of_terrorism&diff=192333467&oldid=190147656 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.26.96.114 (talk) 12:13, 19 February 2008 (UTC)

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