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Family Guy Family Tree

Many people are missing from the posted family tree, including Juarez Griffin (Peter's diminutive grandfather), and Angus Griffin (Peter's great great uncle, the man who invented golf). I'm quite sure there are more than this as well, and I question the purpose of having such a family tree on this page if not everyone is to be included. Wouldn't it be much easier to create a heading for those in the Griffin family, and those in the Pewterschmidt family? Until this family tree is complete, I am removing it. --Ottovonguericke 01:17, 9 October 2006 (UTC)

Subliminal stereotype: Lois the "Jewess"?

Some of us Family Guy fans believe Lois Griffin's ethnic/religious origin isn't limited to WASPs. She reminds me of popular Jewish female characters on movies and TV shows, her accent, the way her facial features are, and the "dominating" matriarchal liberal (i.e. Jewish mother) traits are her personality. Can anyone confirm the show's writers are subliminaly adding "Jewishness" to Lois' personality? She reminds me of Nancy Pelosi, Gloria Steinem, Barbara Boxer and Dianne Feinstein, powerful (and reportedly Jewish liberal) urbanite women in politics (I doubt Pelosi is, but who knows and who cares). Let me get it straight, Lois Griffin's ethnicity is Anglo-Saxon and New york Dutch, then she reminds me of those "educated" or sophisicated and affluent New Yorker-Reform Jews, according to popular stereotypes, spout vocal opposition to anything conservative, rightist and bigotry. Lois tries to straight out Peter Griffin's masculine and chauvinist behavior around her, then the show makes her a neurotic thinking feminist type...and notice Lois has "semitic-mediteranean" features with the "big nose". Are the writers and animators try to convince most fans that Lois the "Jewess"? I knew Peter exhibits stereotypes of blue-collar small town white men, as well a drinking, dancing and cheerful Irish catholic. Family guy is politically incorrect, but a racist or sexist humor show? I hope not or there would be protests, lawsuits or boycotts by now. + 207.200.116.202 13:09, 19 October 2006 (UTC)

Demographics

I'd like to see some discussion of the average education level of the show's target demographic.

Trivia?

I laughed my ass off as I watched the episode about Stewie travelling to Europe. I think that some special jokes should be listed somewhere. I know that it's hard (maybe impossible) to agree on some, but for me as a German the joke about all the Germans being on holiday during the war was incredibly funny... Our comedians just start making fun of that part of our history, but there should be more stuff like this. 172.182.227.243 22:59, 2 June 2006 (UTC)

That one was funny. I actually adore all of them, but my top two would have to be PTV and Deep Throats. --S-man 04:24, 2 July 2006 (UTC)

Similarity with the Simpsons

I would like to add that in the section "Similarity with The Simpsons" there are several errors when it compares Family Guy's Griffen family with the Simpson's family.

One quote says that Chris is the first born child, much like Bart. But in Family Guy it is Meg who is the older child. Also Megs personnality differs greatly from Lisa's. While both are protrayed as social outcasts, Meg has very rarely taken on social cuases (eating meat, cleaning oil off a beach etc) in the vein of Lisa Simpson nor shows adult level inteligence beyong she years like Lisa. She is a far less confident a character and she has never been protrayed as a misunderstood genius. Stewie Griffin can in no way be remotly compared to Maggie Simpson beyond the fact they are both infants. Stewie is articulate and intelligent (though lacking in life experience) beyond his years and Maggie never speaks. Further character differences show tha Chris Griffin isn't like Bart in almost anyway. Bart is a cunning prankster where as Chris is a virtual retard much like his father. Beyond the cosmetic similarties of the families (2 adults and 3 children) and the father(eldaniel)


Archive One: May 2003 - July 2005


1. I agree for the most part.
2. Your grammar sucks. You should type slower and not mess up. :P
3. Chris is much smarter than he seems. It shows in some episodes.

--Gaming King 13:33, 17 April 2006 (UTC)

Although from the analysis above the children are quite dissimilar from the simpsons, Peter Griffin exibites the same type of stupidity as Homer, as does Lois to Marge. For the most part the similarities lie within the script and the writers. For example, in season two Lois gets arrested for shop lifting and sent to jail. In season 4 episode 21 of the Simpsons Marge gets arrested at the 'Quickie Mart' for stealing some whiskey and also sent to jail. This is to name a more blatent example but they also appear to a lesser extent throughout vairious episodes. However the Simpsons have been going so long, that similairties are bound to occur. Which should not detract from how funny family guy is. --User:Timwspsc 18:06, 21 May 2006

I think that the similarities between Peter-Homer and Lois-Marge don't show similarities between the shows per se. The overwhelming majority of American sitcoms depict the husband/father as a blundering idiot, and the wife/mother as being full of common-sense, and seeing past her husband's idiocy. --Milton 03:39, 27 June 2006 (UTC)

Peter is very similar to Homer in his stupidity, as well as his excessive alcohol consumption. --Gaming King 07:25, 1 July 2006 (UTC)
I think it's also worth pointing out that Bart shows many similar qualities to Homer, just as Chris shows many similar qualities to Peter. Also, both Maggie and Stewie are barely noticed by their family, despite their very destructive actions (i.e. Maggie shot Mr. Burns, Stewie makes numerous attempts to kill Lois)

Series 4 broadcasting in the UK

I turned on BBC3 on Tuesday, and there was a FG double bill! "North By North Quahog" and "Fast Times at Buddy Cianci Jr. High" were shown. Does this mean that the pages need updating? They all mention that Season 4 hasn't been shown on UK TV yet! JaffaCakeLover 18:36, 21 September 2006 (GMT)

Incidentally, it's still goind on BBC3: This week also saw the release of the Family Guy Season 5 DVD Set in stores. JaffaCakeLover 16:42, 02 November 2006 (GMT)

Indiana Jones References

DavidNS1128 - There have been numerous references to Indiana Jones throughout Family Guy's history but most of these have been featured in the recent episodes. I believe this has to do with Fox's new Indiana Jones movie coming out. This is unfounded, but there have been a ridiculous amount of Indy references of late.

There are a number of them in the movie, "Stewie Griffin: The Untold Story.

Link9er 19:34, 17 January 2006 (UTC)

There is no evidence to suggest that Family Guy is promoting Indiana Jones. In fact, Seth MacFarlane has been making references to Indiana Jones for years, going back to the very start of the episode. It could simply be another favorite series of his, and he is known to make repeated jokes on a few movies/tv shows (such as All in the Family, Star Wars, Seinfeld, etc.). His references to Seinfeld shouldn't be seen as a promotion for viewers to watch Seinfeld re-runs, which are also shown on Fox. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Dolfan1349 (talk • contribs)

Banned?

ssteedman - Banned in South Africa? I can't guarantee you that this is not the case. Please cite references for this. I know that SABC decided not to air it because the content was too American, and therefore not relevant to South African viewers. I will remove the South Africa reference.

"Due to the controversies within the show many nations have banned Family Guy, including Armenia, Indonesia, Malaysia, India, Iran, Thailand, Belarus, South Africa, Egypt, Serbia and Montenegro, Vietnam, Taiwan, Zimbabwe, People's Republic of China (PRC), Albania, Portugal, and South Korea."

This is ridiculous. There are no banned tv shows in Portugal, no matter how offensive or controversial. The last time that happened, as a result of pressure from the Catholic Church back in 1987, it sparked a major controversy and only got the show (Herman José's Humor de Perdição) cancelled two episodes before the end. (At least one of these "objectionable" episodes was still aired a few years later.) Family Guy just hasn't been bought by anyone yet. --Goblin ›talk 06:47, 9 November 2005 (UTC)

According to IMDb Family Guy has been banned in Portugal. I haven't found another source but I do consider IMDb credible. - murder1 23:38, 27 November 2005 (UTC)
IMDb's list of supposedly banned movies in TV shows in other countries is NOT accurate. I have crosschecked a number of things with people living overseas and found a multitude of errors Elijya 20:41, 1 December 2005 (UTC)

I vaguely remember that Family Guy was aired on Malaysia's TV3 station a few years ago, I do suggest removing that error-prone paragraph. --Andylkl [ talk! | c ] 08:50, 12 January 2006 (UTC)

It's aired in Thailand, may be censored though.

It's aired in Egypt as well last time I checked. 24.4.221.251 01:46, 5 September 2006 (UTC)

I say just delete that section until more credible research is done. --Milton 03:41, 27 June 2006 (UTC)

"sexually confused" Stewie

In the section about the characters, Stewie is described as "sexually confused". When was tthis established? -- Mjwilco 04:51, 4 August 2005 (UTC)

You know, I'm not sure. I wouldn't consider him sexually confused, to be honest. Consider the episode where his "pee pee has been stricken with rigor mortis" at the sight of disrobing cheerleaders, and the episode where he falls in love with his babysitter. One time, he says something to the effect of wishing he were homosexual, but that doesn't really qualify him as sexually confused, I don't think. Unless someone has evidence to the contrary, I think the words "sexually confused" should be removed from his description. -- The Amazing Superking 06:53, August 4, 2005 (UTC)
There have been many references to Stewie having both heterosexual and homosexual tendencies; one example of the latter is in the episode "Emission Impossible". Trying to prevent Lois and Peter from having sex, Stewie puts on lipstick to smear it on Peter's shirt collar. He glimpses himself in the mirror and soon gets carried away, saying something along the lines of "Oh, you're a dirty girl, you like being a slut because you have low self-esteem and that gets you off." Another episode showed a "flashback" of him dancing in a leather thong in a bar full of similarly leather-clad bikers. Maybe he's bisexual; in any case, he is certainly a bit precocious. -DynSkeet (talk) 12:11, August 4, 2005 (UTC)
Yes, he's sexually confused - he doesn't really know what sexuality is! He's still a little baby! He does state (and I paraphrase) "Wouldn't it be wonderful if I grew up to be a homosexual", thus hinting that he's neither way. I think there is certianly evidence to say that he's got a 50/50 chance of going either way, but to use the term "sexually confused" is somewhat misleading as it implies he's trying to make a decision. I'd agree with removing it. violet/riga (t) 12:20, 4 August 2005 (UTC)

Ok then, I'll remove "sexuallly confused." If someone comes up with a good way to summarize this discussion into a few key words, go ahead and add them, but I think this may be a case of "less is more." -- Mjwilco 16:22, 6 August 2005 (UTC)

Sexually ambiguous? --TheMidnighters 21:15, 6 August 2005 (UTC)

Bisexual or Metrosexual if you ask me. The Republican 03:02, 8 October 2005 (UTC)

Stewie is obviously bi-sexual, cant you tell. checked out those girls at quagmires party, but also sang a homosexual song, the sailor one where he says "...but I'd rather get it on with you." in the end of the song. God 15:37, 23 March 2006 (UTC)


Stewie is most likely bisexual. In the recently-aired episode, "Deep Throats", Stewie and Brian try to expose Mayor West's relationship with Meg. At one point, they go to a restaurant. Brian and Stewie wear disguises so they go unrecognised. They pretend to be dating. Stewie dresses up as a blonde woman in a white dress, and when they see Mayor West walk by, they make out to avoid detection. Stewie then says things that strongly suggest that he enjoyed it. --Gaming King 04:47, 15 April 2006 (UTC)


In one of the director's commentaries in the DVD volumes, Seth MacFarlane comments that they were in talks of creating an episode where stewie "comes out of the closet". But this episode was never created. If someone can go through those commentaries that would create evidence of this. I think Seth talks about this in the commentaries for the episode where Stewie sings the sailor song where he says "I'd rathere get it on with you". --hman716

I think the sailor song is just intended to poke fun at the ongoing joke that sailors are homosexual. In reference to "Deep Throats", though, Stewie and Brian pretend to kiss, and Stewie seems to wish it was real. Stewie then says, "Brian, shot in the dark but - you wanna do something sometime?" or something like that. This is definitely an invitation to date. --Milton 03:45, 27 June 2006 (UTC)

Indeed. See my comment above. --Gaming King 07:27, 1 July 2006 (UTC)

Technically, he is. In one episode, a psycologist writes that one of his symptoms is that hes Sexually Confused. Toasty! 23:46, 11 September 2006 (UTC)

The term he used was "gender confusion". PrometheusX303 13:08, 12 September 2006 (UTC)

Simpsons people hate Family Guy?

I don't know about the guys who wrote this article, but in all the Simpson guides I've read they've all told me that people who make the Simpsons are fans of Family Guy, and that the jokes against the show are actually tributes to it (similar to when they showed the "Ren and Stimpy: Season Premier" on the Simpsons, and it said that was a tribute to Ren and Stimpy, because they love it) and I've read invterviews with Matt Groening, and he says he likes the show. As for Trey Parker, Matt Stone, and John K., I've never heard anything about that. Somebody please change the Simpsons thing. I don't want to edit it, because my edits are always deleted.

Well Matt Groening isn't cited as a person who thinks negatively of the show, and he hasn't had much to do with the Simpsons for about a decade now anyway. But I think it would be nice to see some sources for a lot of this information. I do know that Kevin Smith wasn't a fan, and the source is cited accurately for him. --TheMidnighters 06:10, 10 August 2005 (UTC)
I just tried to find some verification through google for remarks made in interviews by Trey Parker, Matt Stone and John K in regards to Family Guy and couldn't find anything. I'll remove those bits for now until there are some sources. --TheMidnighters 06:27, 10 August 2005 (UTC)
As for the Simpsons staff hating Family Guy that is verified by Seth himself in his Onion A. V. Club interview [1] which references a quote from a member of the Simpsons staff[2]. Just search for the phrase "staff hates" on each page. I've seen other quotes in the past from Simpsons writers inwhich their main complaint is that Family Guy copied them somehow. --TheMidnighters 06:43, 10 August 2005 (UTC)

I wrote the article, my sources of the Parker & Stone's opinion as well as John Kricfalusi's opinion are located here:

Kricfalusi's comment: "If you're a kid wanting to be a cartoonist today, and you're looking at FAMILY GUY, you don't have to aim very high. You can draw FAMILY GUY when you're ten years old. You don't have to get any better than that to become a professional cartoonist. The standards are extremely low."

source: [3]

Comments by Parker & Stone: "What's the meanest thing ever said to you before, during or after a gig? MS: When people say to me, “God, you guys have one of the best shows on television. You and Family Guy.” That fucking hurts so bad. TP: Very well said. It's such a kick in the balls."

source: [4]

Great. Thanks a lot. --TheMidnighters 23:41, 10 August 2005 (UTC)
Come on now, do you honestly think they're being serious? I honestly doubt if they were truly saying they hated Family Guy, they would have used "Fucking hurts so bad" and "kick in the balls" to describe their unhappiness. They're both well educated, and when heard in a serious interview they come off very well. 154.20.135.89 00:02, 23 January 2006 (UTC)

I think Kricfalusi is reffering to animation quality, not the show as a whole.

He is, and that's what the article states. --TheMidnighters 09:01, 11 August 2005 (UTC)

Additional comments: The Simpsons is hardly original in terms of a family-centered animated show - remember a little program called The Flinstones? It seems hypocritical to dump on Family Guy for lack of originality.

That's a ridiculous argument, The Simpsons and The Flintstones are both animated programs about a family, but the style of humor between the two is very different. The Flintstones was pretty much a children's cartoon that aired in the evening. The Simpsons is much more satirical and edgy and it features marketedly more "adult" humor. The Simpsons covers topics the Flintstones would never have touched (homosexuality, gun control, medical marijuana, etc.). Fintstones was a very tame show, with most of the humor derived from taking a modern appliance (eg vaccum cleaner) and replacing it with it's prehistoric equivalent (eg an elephant).

The difference between "The Simpsons" and "Family Guy" is minute compared to the difference between "The Simpsons" and "The Flintstones".

"The Simpsons covers topics the Flintstones would never have touched (homosexuality, gun control, medical marijuana, etc.)."

yeah, well it is a different generation. But the simpsons would never have been created without the flinstones.I am so sick of the simpsons lovers being so narrow minded and snobbish, thinking the simpsons "invented" some new genre and then HATE it when something else comes along which is becomng equally popular. So they have to get petty little victories by makin a whole page devoted to criticism of family guy and then deletes any evidence of cntorversy in the simpsons page!

simpsons dont hold a candle to family guy. on a lighter note, i just pooped a lil. i actually made up word for this: Palimp= Pooped A Little In My Pants miggy not 'god' a-holeGod 15:34, 23 March 2006 (UTC)

You cannot hold a show like the Simpsons, which has been on for what seventeen years?, to Family Guy whoch has already been cancelled once...besides the fact that the humor is a bit different. I mean Family Guy is a great show in it's own right but tends to be a lot less concentrated towards social issues but the simularities between the 2 lie in the jokes and issues, not the actual presentation of them. 69.217.195.50 09:43, 31 March 2006 (UTC)

POV regarding fantastic and non-realistic elements

The article states "[i]ts brand of humor is radically different from similarly described series such as The Simpsons; brief, frequently nonsensical cutaways and flashbacks to various points in history, geography, and reality involving the characters and their ludicrous actions are a staple of the show's comedy". Describing the cutaways as "frequently nonsensical" is a POV that not everyone would share, and there is no indication that various levels of reality are involved in the show; indeed, the fact that at one point in the series a college class in the distant future is watching it suggests the whole series may not be real. But that aside, I don't know of any indication to support these types of assertions -- are any of these things fantastic or unrealistic in the context of Family Guy? --Daniel C. Boyer 20:33, 12 August 2005 (UTC)

I would disagree with this; I'd have to say that the series is largely dedicated to nonsense, insofar in that there is no consistent sense of normality or reality, and uses as many or as few levels as necessary to pull off a joke.
Pop culture references abound in Family Guy, but its presentation is decidedly malleable; featuring its characters both as detached viewers (such as literally watching an episode of Jake and the Fatman on television) or unquestioned participants (such as Peter appearing as a Cavity Creep from the old Crest commercials). Peter can be portrayed as an ex-member of Simon and Garfunkel despite the fact that he's about ten years too young; characters, both real and fictional, appear out of nowhere and disappear just as quickly without being questioned by in-show characters. (My favorite example: in a paintball match with live bullets, Peter says, "At least you're doing better than Peter Weller from the beginning of RoboCop"; pan right to show Weller's character Murphy getting his limbs blasted off by the other characters.) Nothing really has to make sense except as jokes and sketches within themselves; even then it doesn't always follow the rules.
The climax of the episode to which you refer -- "E. Peterbus Unum" -- is a perfect example of this. The episode-long story of Petoria is presented by the teacher as a history lesson, but the students treat it as if they were audience members, in a self-reflexive reference to the television show ("Yeah, so, uh, can the family understand the baby, or how does that work exactly?"). I can see where you're coming from, but I don't think it's a matter of POV to call the show nonsensical; I'd say the show prides itself on its nonsense. Captain Yesterday 07:14, 13 August 2005 (UTC)

Family guy is funny because you dont have to question why. I think Seth must have realized he could do a better job than the simpmsons writers, and so he did it and in many "different" ways succeded. The best decission Family Guy could ever make is to stop. If it did it would be remembered as one of the greatest animated programs ever. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.162.111.22 (talk • contribs)

You actually want Family Guy to stop? Are you afraid it will go the way of The Simpsons and eventually get 3 smirks per episode? It's almost impossible. One reason is that it is based on pop-culture. This is something that is always changing. Out of jokes? Wait a couple days, some celebrity will drunk. Guaranteed. Also, fans of the show can easily submit their episode ideas. They don't need to find some PO Box # or something, they can simply go to the Official Message Boards, register, and send a PM. So as long as there are creative fans, there will be material. They are currently only doing fan-submitted shorts (Family Guy Viewer Mail #1 was 3 fan episodes) but they might do an entire episode if they all suffer Writer's Block. The Simpsons is about the characters, Family Guy is about the situations the characters get in. They are two different styles, and Family Guy's is an immortal one.

Family Guy Season 5 starts on FOX September 10 (USA)! Family Guy Season 4B comes out on DVD Box Set November 14 (USA)! And the PlayStation 3 comes out November 17 (USA)! An eventful year.

Theme song

Why were the theme song lyrics taken out?- B-101 18:44, 19 August 2005 (UTC)

LGagnon was concerned that putting the complete song lyrics here was taking "fair use" too far. Quoting the line "laugh 'n cry" is fair use. Doing a complete episode transcript is not. I'm not sure on which side of the line this would fall. Cromulent Kwyjibo 18:51, 19 August 2005 (UTC)
I think it's just fine to but the lyrics up. It's only 7 lines, and it's the same for all episodes. And it's not as if any fan doesn't already know them.


Wasn't there some controversy about the "laugh & cry" line as well? It really DOES sound like "effin' cry", which would be funnier. The kicker for me there is Stewie's pronunciation...it comes out as an "eh" sound like the letter "F" instead of an "aa" sound like the word "back."

Singing it "Leff & cry" makes no sense linguistically or comedically.

Song lyrics are copyrighted. We cannot quote the entire song's lyrics. Music labels are making major efforts to kill webistes that serve song lyrics. This is clear Wikipolicy under Wikipedia:Lyrics and poetry. --Tysto 07:25, 12 January 2006 (UTC)


A lot of extraneous information has built up in the Theme Song section. I've therefore removed some really confusing and poorly-written bit about an inside joke in the theme song. Also, I took out some of the stuff about other versions of the theme song (that kind information belongs in the individual episode articles, if anywhere), and left a more general remark. Also, given that the theme song was changed in response to one part of the lyrics being misheard, I figured that warrants mention. The fact that other lines are also mistaken by some is too POVed to merit inclusion, however.

According to the commentary, Stewie has always said "laugh and cry". However, in the original cut, there was an instrument hit just as he said "laugh", making it sound like "effin' cry". This is fixed in the later seasons. Prometheus-X303- 17:00, 31 March 2006 (UTC)

Who else but Quagmire?

If you want to say somthing about this song, write here.

Preferably here: Breaking Out Is Hard to Do. --TM (talk) 11:43, 20 September 2005 (UTC)

One its funny. Two not alot of people care no offense (User:Benjida 9:29 PM, 21 January 2005)

Controversy due to leaks

The article says that there's been controversy due to leaks of season 4 premiere episode and Stewie movie on the internet - what kind of controversy? There has to be some explanation.

My guess is the controversy is about the legality of pirating. Seth Macfarlane has a cavalier attitude to pirating, but whenever he says something to that effect feels compelled to note that his lawyers do not condone. Cromulent Kwyjibo 17:36, 13 September 2005 (UTC)
This clarification probably should be added to the article with some links to McFarlane saying something about it, if there are any such links (and the lawyers commenting maybe). Otherwise it's unclear what the controversy is.

Simpsons vs Family Guy

The article says in "Criticisms from From Peers and Critics":

"In one of the recent Treehouse of Horror episodes, Homer creates an army of clones of himself that are each progressively dumber than the real Homer. One of the clones is shown to be Peter Griffin."

The article describes this as a "blatant potshot" at Family Guy. I don't think this can be classified as a blatant potshot, in fact I don't think it's a potshot at all, it seems more like a reference to Family Guy. Opinions anyone? Should that statement be in the article? Akamad 08:47, 20 September 2005 (UTC)

I'd qualify it is a potshot to label another character a dumb clone of another character. I'd say it can be called blatant considering how open Simpsons writers have been concerning their belief that Family Guy copied them. --TM (talk) 11:39, 20 September 2005 (UTC)
Ahh yes. I see what you are sayig. I stand corrected. Akamad 20:51, 20 September 2005 (UTC)

I also removed a statement claiming that Simpsons ratings and DVD sales were consistently higher than Family Guy. Can the editor provide evidence of this? Currently, the top selling DVD on Amazon is the Family Guy movie... Any relevant facts you can provide to this article are welcome, but broad claims need to be backed up with references. --DropDeadGorgias (talk) 20:26, 27 September 2005 (UTC)

If you're going to remove that statement you must remove the statement that alleges jealousy. That is an opinion statement and it has no place here. Granted, the article says "many fans would suggest" but that could potentially give credibility to any ridiculous comment. I could say "many fans would suggest that Seth MacFarlane and Osama bin Laden are the same person" but it would still be inappropriate for a reference source. As for my sources (or lack thereof) I provided links to Zap2it (though you would have to scour weekly ratings reports since there is no all-encompassing comparison between "Simpsons" and "Family Guy" ratings, the only time a new "Family Guy" episode has ever scored higher ratings than a new "Simpsons" episode on the same night was when "Family Guy" had it's first new episode after years, whereas the new "Simpsons" that night was only the first new episode in a week. After that period the "Family Guy" ratings dropped to where they are now. 20th Century Fox Home Entertainment is unbiased as owner of both shows and they advertise "The Simpsons" by saying "BRING HOME THE BEST-SELLING SERIES OF ALL TIME!" The "Family Guy" direct-to-video movie is currently outselling the latest "Simpsons" DVD release for several reasons: it's a brand-new release (it just came out yesterday vs. Season 6 of "The Simpsons" which came out six weeks ago), it's brand-new content (which has never been done in the case of "The Simpsons") and it's much cheaper than a season set of "The Simpsons" (selling for TWICE as much as the "Family Guy" release on Amazon). My whole point is this: if you're going to include an opinion statement alleging jealousy you MUST point out the COMMON KNOWLEDGE that "The Simpsons" is a cultural juggernaut with success that "Family Guy" hasn't even begun to approach. You can dismiss the show's success and claim it is undeserved but you cannot deny that it has achieved a much greater success than "Family Guy".

You have a point - I've removed that line, too, as it doesn't have a cite. --DropDeadGorgias (talk) 03:43, 29 September 2005 (UTC)


I would like to add that in the section "Similarity with The Simpsons" there are several errors when it compares Family guy's Griffen family with the Simpson's.

One it states that Chris is the first born child like Bart but Meg is actually the older child. Also Megs personnality differs greatly from Lisa's. While both are protrayed as social outcasts, Meg has very rarely taken on social cuases in the vein of Lisa Simpson nor shows adult level inteligence like Lisa. She is a far less confident a character and she has never been protrayed as a misunderstood genius. Stewie can in no way be remotly compared to Maggie Simpson. Stewie is articulate and intelligent (though lacking in life experience) beyond his years and Maggie never speaks and intelligence is only sometimes implied but never confirmed.

Further character differences show that Chris Griffin isn't like Bart in almost anyway. While Bat is a academic underachiever, he is also a cunning prankster and often has quick wit. Chris Griffin meanwhile is a virtual retard, much like his father. The Simpsons clearly have no equilevent of Brain the dog. Yes there are two pets present in the Simpsonhousehold but 90% of the time they are background decoration while Brain is a main character in virtually evey Family guy episode. Brain also alternates between being nemesis and comedy partner of Stewie-a relationship hat has no equilivent in the Simpsons. Beyond the cosmetic similarties of the families (2 adults and 3 children) and the father being comically unintelligent there is very little that is similar between the characters of the show. Certainly that section of the article needs to be drastically changed or removed. (eldaniel)


In a recent episode, Peterotica, Peter mentions something about characters from The Tracey Ullman Show. The cut away scene shows the Griffins, drawn poorly, in a parody of the scene where the Simpsons bury Snowball. PrometheusX303 17:28, 24 April 2006 (UTC)

Extended Lyrics

Does anyone know the rest of the Extended lyrics?--The Republican 00:35, 2 October 2005 (UTC)

I have a question.When did they made extended lyrics I don't remember that, was that in a DVD? (user:Benjida) October 17,2005 9:19PM

-> they were on the family guy live in las vegas cd as mentioned in the text. easytiger

Rewrite

Is anyone opposed to me rewriting most of this article in the next week? A lot of it doesn't need to be here (i.e. the text of the petition to FOX, etc.) and there are numerous examples of nonencyclopedic writing. I'd be willing to do it next week if nobody objects. Ral315 WS 20:42, 12 October 2005 (UTC)

I object, I think its fine how it is, all the information in it seem relevant.--24.11.237.235 16:26, 14 October 2005 (UTC)

I agree. The article is quite encyclopedic, accurate, and looks nice right now. And it would help to keep the petition for reference. There is no point in rewriting the article. --FlyingPenguins 16:35, 14 October 2005 (UTC)
You think that this article is encyclopedic? Read the "Characters" section.

DVD Releases

I would like to redo the DVD release section to make it look cleaner. I'd like to set it up in a table format similar to the DVD releases for these television shows: 24, Friends, Nip/Tuck and Survivor. I could include an additional column for extra information that is currently there such as special features. Jtrost 15:28, 7 November 2005 (UTC)

If no one is opposed to this I will go ahead and clean up the section. Jtrost 21:00, 1 December 2005 (UTC)
How would you feel about me creating an entire article for Family Guy DVDs a la The Simpsons DVDs and King of the Hill DVDs? I'd obviously use a lot of the info you used in the article so that we don't use any valuable information, but I feel that FG is significant enough to warrant such a subpage. - Wezzo 20:21, 11 December 2005 (UTC)
Is that amount of detail considered encyclopedic or fancruft? Listing the episodes is repetitive because we already have a detailed episode guide. And many of the special features are already noted. Jtrost 22:44, 11 December 2005 (UTC)
Yeah, I'm borderline on the idea, but considering how important DVDs are to FG's history I thought it may be worth it. - Wezzo 07:58, 12 December 2005 (UTC)

PTV Opening Sequence

Right now under The Simpsons section there is this line: In the opening of "PTV", Stewie (in a reference to the opening of The Naked Gun). I thought that the opening sequence was a reference to Bobby's World where Bobby would ride his tricycle throughout the house. I've never seen The Naked Gun, so I am not sure if there was or was not a reference. Should this be changed to reflect that it also reference Bobby's World? Jtrost 19:11, 7 November 2005 (UTC)

I vaguely remember watching Bobby's World with my son a few years ago. If I'm not mistaken, Bobby rides his tricycle into an imaginary world. Now that you mention it, I do think this a Bobby's World reference, and not Naked Gun. Cromulent Kwyjibo 21:36, 8 November 2005 (UTC)
The music playing through this sequence was the Naked Gun theme tune. The way in which the scenes cut in this sequence was a complete take off of Naked Gun. I've never heard of Bobby's World, but unless Naked Gun was identically copying Bobby's World in terms of theme music, and cutting to outrageous incidents over and over, then it's safe to say it was a spoof of the Naked Gun. And if you've not seen it, then do see it. You'll love it! ...Just checked our article on Bobby's World. It first appeared in 1990. Naked Gun came out in 1988 (and the Police Squad TV series before that). It's definitely a Naked Gun reference. KeithD (talk) 22:36, 8 November 2005 (UTC)
Hello! In case there is still any doubt, this is definitely a spoof of Naked Gun. Not only did it feature the theme song, it opened just like the show. If you remember, the Naked Gun opened from the viewpoint of the top of a police car driving out into different places. Eventually, the places would turn into something *wacky*, like a pool hall or a video game.
Agreed. The choice of theme music was clearly intended to refer to Naked'Gun and Police Squad. BinaryTed 20:24, 27 December 2005 (UTC)
However, I can understand the confusion. The opening of Bobby's World is similar to the parody. But then again, so is the part in The Shining when Danny is riding through the halls on his tricycle... ;-) Hfguide 02:26, 9 November 2005 (UTC)

Is Seth MacFarlane

Anyway related to the simpsons, of is family guy it's own show? Pece Kocovski 09:53, 4 December 2005 (UTC)

No, Family Guy is made by completely different people, although they're both shown on the same channel in America. -- jeffthejiff (talk) 16:46, 4 December 2005 (UTC)