Talk:False-collar

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A photo would be very helpful. It's hard to comprehend if you haven't seen one before.

I found false-collar by a link within wikipedia from Eton College, so if it is deleted, that link will have to be updated. If it is removed from wikipedia then at the least it ought to be included in wiktionary.

It should probably be contained within Wiktionary but as the false collar has no impact outside of Eton (unlike "stuck-up", which has entered common English parlance) it should be removed from Wikipedia no matter what. VfD supported.

Well, what about calling it a 'detachable collar' then? I created a 'detachable collar' article and linked it to this, but maybe it should be the other way around. And, there's an article on 'collar' with a lot of different types of collars listed (all in red, no working links), but NOT false collar or detachable collar which could have a valid link. And I added external links to articles about detachable collars.

It was my knowledge that a 'detachable collar' is in fact the original collar. It has only been in this century that collars w heere attached to shirts. - Matthew238 23:03, 26 November 2005 (UTC)

That's a common belief, but actually attached collars are older; you can see them on Elizabethan shirts here [1] and here [2], and eighteenth-century shirts also had attached collars that fold over like modern collars. PKM 00:18, 27 November 2005 (UTC)

Why did the detachable collar fall out of style? What replaced it?

Detatchable Collars first became popular in the late Nineteenth century, as they were easier to starch than attatched collars, their popularity began to decline with the innovation of celluloid stiffeners (modern collars use celluloid stiffeners, instead of being starched) ending their advantage, although Skinhead culture in the 1970's and early 1980's brought them back in vogue, along with Cardigans and Trilbys. after the early 80's they were seen as unfashionable again.